Trade Deadline 10 Days Away - What Should We Do?

[TheNetsFan]

Royce shoots 40% from 3 and is a plus defender. I'm not sure why he's catching strays in this thread.

Been happening all year. Don't get it at all.

He's made like 3 or 4 game winning shots. He's a dog on defense who guards 2 through 4 respectably. Perfect for our switching scheme. And he's been doing a little bit everything with 4 assists a game and running the offense at times.

Calling him a bad-average defender is unfair. Calling him not that versatile a defender isn't far off though. He excels at guarding forwards. He's not that good at guarding quicker guards, which is why he works well with Simmons or to a much lesser extent Harris or Sumner on the floor. It's a big reason why I keep saying our biggest need is a bigger, defensive guard. Unless we plan to give Sumner more minutes and have him part of the playoff rotation (doubtful), we need a better point of attack defender (especially for games with Simmons is out).

[TheNetsFan]

It's a shame that DLo isn't working out for you guys. He's a beloved figure here, but I totally understand why he has you guys vexed: the wild inconsistency. Some nights he looks like Superman and other nights he looks like he can't even play basketball.

That’s exactly right - wildly inconsistent. DLo is playing better, but it took him some time to figure out how to play with Gobert. Also, I don’t know if you had this issue, but DLo insists on being called a combo guard, and while he can pass and run an offense, he sometimes struggles knowing when to pass and when to shoot. Now, when Ant runs the show, he’s been able to focus on shooting more, and we’ve had much more good than bad.

The reason he may be on the block though is more of a cap issue than DLo himself. Next season, MIN will be far enough over the cap that if DLo walks, we won’t gain cap space to replace the player, and we’ll lose the salary slot. Since MIN has trouble drawing free agents anyway, just using he MLE won’t replace the talent. Two weeks ago, DLo pressed for an extension offer, but apparently didn’t get a number he liked, so it might mean they have to part ways. To his credit, he’s been a really good teammate throughout the whole thing.

He's not alone. I think there are a lot of guys that view themselves as PGs, but are much better suited as pure SGs/secondary ball handlers. Kyrie is that way. Dinwiddie was that way as well. Part of the issue is he probably thinks/knows that he'll make more money as a "big PG" than as an "average sized SG."

[MrDollarBills]

Royce shoots 40% from 3 and is a plus defender. I'm not sure why he's catching strays in this thread.

Been happening all year. Don't get it at all.

He's made like 3 or 4 game winning shots. He's a dog on defense who guards 2 through 4 respectably. Perfect for our switching scheme. And he's been doing a little bit everything with 4 assists a game and running the offense at times.

Exactly. The guy has balls of steel, I have no concerns about him in the playoffs.

[MrDollarBills]

It's a shame that DLo isn't working out for you guys. He's a beloved figure here, but I totally understand why he has you guys vexed: the wild inconsistency. Some nights he looks like Superman and other nights he looks like he can't even play basketball.

That’s exactly right - wildly inconsistent. DLo is playing better, but it took him some time to figure out how to play with Gobert. Also, I don’t know if you had this issue, but DLo insists on being called a combo guard, and while he can pass and run an offense, he sometimes struggles knowing when to pass and when to shoot. Now, when Ant runs the show, he’s been able to focus on shooting more, and we’ve had much more good than bad.

The reason he may be on the block though is more of a cap issue than DLo himself. Next season, MIN will be far enough over the cap that if DLo walks, we won’t gain cap space to replace the player, and we’ll lose the salary slot. Since MIN has trouble drawing free agents anyway, just using he MLE won’t replace the talent. Two weeks ago, DLo pressed for an extension offer, but apparently didn’t get a number he liked, so it might mean they have to part ways. To his credit, he’s been a really good teammate throughout the whole thing.

I'd rather DLo focus on scoring than facilitating. He tries to do too much and ends up making some inexplicably bad turnovers.

I don't think he's going to get the money he wants from anyone. He got paid due to the KD trade with Golden State, I can't see anyone offering him anywhere near that kind of cash. Too slow footed and can't finish at the rim.

That's my guy though so i don't want to come off as bad mouthing him. He was a good soldier during his time here and gave us some great memories.

[MrDollarBills]

Royce shoots 40% from 3 and is a plus defender. I'm not sure why he's catching strays in this thread.

Been happening all year. Don't get it at all.

He's made like 3 or 4 game winning shots. He's a dog on defense who guards 2 through 4 respectably. Perfect for our switching scheme. And he's been doing a little bit everything with 4 assists a game and running the offense at times.

Calling him a bad-average defender is unfair. Calling him not that versatile a defender isn't far off though. He excels at guarding forwards. He's not that good at guarding quicker guards, which is why he works well with Simmons or to a much lesser extent Harris or Sumner on the floor. It's a big reason why I keep saying our biggest need is a bigger, defensive guard. Unless we plan to give Sumner more minutes and have him part of the playoff rotation (doubtful), we need a better point of attack defender (especially for games with Simmons is out).

Yeah he really does well against bigger players. He's not afraid to bang and be physical.

honestly, at full strength i don't think we need anyone else but Claxton/KD/Royce/Ben defensively (add Yuta in there too). Not having KD takes away our defensive captain which has hurt us.

[sashaturiaf]

Been happening all year. Don't get it at all.

He's made like 3 or 4 game winning shots. He's a dog on defense who guards 2 through 4 respectably. Perfect for our switching scheme. And he's been doing a little bit everything with 4 assists a game and running the offense at times.

Calling him a bad-average defender is unfair. Calling him not that versatile a defender isn't far off though. He excels at guarding forwards. He's not that good at guarding quicker guards, which is why he works well with Simmons or to a much lesser extent Harris or Sumner on the floor. It's a big reason why I keep saying our biggest need is a bigger, defensive guard. Unless we plan to give Sumner more minutes and have him part of the playoff rotation (doubtful), we need a better point of attack defender (especially for games with Simmons is out).

Yeah he really does well against bigger players. He's not afraid to bang and be physical.

honestly, at full strength i don't think we need anyone else but Claxton/KD/Royce/Ben defensively (add Yuta in there too). Not having KD takes away our defensive captain which has hurt us.

100%, Royce is not the problem for our roster.

If you're asking him to be the guy that anchors your defense you have a problem, but we're asking him to be basically a #4 on both ends and he's more than qualified to do that.

[dautjazz]

I'd look to move Simmons for pretty much anything honestly. Don't think he's any good, so whatever we can get for him would be fine.

Don't be a victim of a hot take moment.

Trust me, keep those for later.

He's in year 7, and just got his third straight DNP. He's on a massive contract, and his stock is not going up, trade him for the best offer. Doesn't have to be this year, but if some team is dumb enough to offer a player who can provide a positive impact on a better contract, just do it.

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Any shot we can get 2 of these guys?

Honestly I would give up Simmons. Call me crazy.

Terrence Ross could probably start for us as a high level 3 and D guy on the wing. Replace Simmons basically.

Bamba gives us a ton of size off the bench and shooting.

Kyrie/Royce/Ross/KD/Claxon

You have shooting and defense everywhere now.

Orlando can rehabilitate Simmons possibly. And pair him with Paolo.

[CalamityX12]

I agree!

[3pt_chucker]

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Any shot we can get 2 of these guys?

Honestly I would give up Simmons. Call me crazy.

Terrence Ross could probably start for us as a high level 3 and D guy on the wing. Replace Simmons basically.

Bamba gives us a ton of size off the bench and shooting.

Kyrie/Royce/Ross/KD/Claxon

You have shooting and defense everywhere now.

Orlando can rehabilitate Simmons possibly. And pair him with Paolo.

Bat s*** crazy my guy.

That trade would be a fireable offense

[TheNetsFan]

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Any shot we can get 2 of these guys?

Honestly I would give up Simmons. Call me crazy.

Terrence Ross could probably start for us as a high level 3 and D guy on the wing. Replace Simmons basically.

Bamba gives us a ton of size off the bench and shooting.

Kyrie/Royce/Ross/KD/Claxon

You have shooting and defense everywhere now.

Orlando can rehabilitate Simmons possibly. And pair him with Paolo.

You're crazy (per your request). I'm not giving up Simmons' size, defense & future upside for these guys. The only viable way I can see getting 2 guys is if Orlando will do Bamba for Seth & then buyout Ross, or if they have interest in Joe.

[Hello Brooklyn]

Maybe I went too far

[GYK]

Wings. The entire Durant era has lacked wings. At all times there were star ball handlers. Guards aren’t necessary for this team.
Spacing is the most important aspect of offense today. The obvious counter is attacking closeouts from defense. On the other hand defending spacing and rotations are just as important to the defense. And have the length, size and skill to shoot, pass, drive and defend on a switch and out to perimeter.

With Joe, Seth, Patty, Cam, Sharpe and picks(anything gotten from the Harden/6ers trade should be up for grabs as it should be seen as part of the trade) all on the block the dream scenario for me would be Kuzma/Morris(Clippers) and Naz Reid.
Ben
Kyrie/Royce
Kuzma/Yuta
Durant/Morris
Nic/Naz
Would still offer even if Washington says another thing. Again Harden/6ers picks are apart of that trade. You aren’t trading picks for Kuzma but Harden for Ben and Kuzma. Joe and two 1st offered for Kuzma is fine by me. I also don’t see why they aren’t in the running for OG but that’s extremely unlikely.

While that’s a dream scenario.
Naz Reid for Cam and possible 2nds. Naz is active and bulky(bulk is something we lack even in our lengthiest lineups).

Joe and a possible for 1st for Jae Crowder/Torrey Craig. Switching schemes require switchable players. Essentially medium ball(or big small ball).


Seth/Patt for Marcus Morris. The Clippers are looking for a PG. It seems like a win-win to me.

Ben
Kyrie/Royce
Durant/Craig/Yuta
Morris/Jae
Nic/Naz

When the buyouts come aggressively go after Burke or Ross.

[MrDollarBills]

Will Barton supposedly wants to come here on the buyout market.

[MrDollarBills]

Maybe I went too far

I would trade for Ross if the cost isn't too much

[TheNetsFan]

Will Barton supposedly wants to come here on the buyout market.

He's got some height. Beyond that, he hasn't been very good recently.

[MrDollarBills]

Will Barton supposedly wants to come here on the buyout market.

He's got some height. Beyond that, he hasn't been very good recently.

Yeah, Will's better days are behind him.

Bones Hyland apparently wants out of Denver.

I also think we should look into OG Anonuby as well. A trade involving Harris and Cam works money wise, i doubt Masai bites tho

[TheNetsFan]

Will Barton supposedly wants to come here on the buyout market.

He's got some height. Beyond that, he hasn't been very good recently.

Yeah, Will's better days are behind him.

Bones Hyland apparently wants out of Denver.

I also think we should look into OG Anonuby as well. A trade involving Harris and Cam works money wise, i doubt Masai bites tho

Harris would provide Toronto some much need shooting, but even Harris plus both of our tradeable 1sts probably doesn't get it done. It also puts the Raptors slightly into the tax, so they'll likely want to dump some additional salary back.

Raptor fans on the T&T board seem very interested in moving Boucher's contract & were seemingly very in favor of a Boucher + Young/Birch for Harris type of deal.

[MrDollarBills]

He's got some height. Beyond that, he hasn't been very good recently.

Yeah, Will's better days are behind him.

Bones Hyland apparently wants out of Denver.

I also think we should look into OG Anonuby as well. A trade involving Harris and Cam works money wise, i doubt Masai bites tho

Harris would provide Toronto some much need shooting, but even Harris plus both of our tradeable 1sts probably doesn't get it done. It also puts the Raptors slightly into the tax, so they'll likely want to dump some additional salary back.

Raptor fans on the T&T board seem very interested in moving Boucher's contract & were seemingly very in favor of a Boucher + Young/Birch for Harris type of deal.

i don't think we can afford OG now after seeing what they're looking for. Maybe Gary Trent?

[Hello Brooklyn]

I wouldn't deal with Toronto at all. Masai always robs people blind.

3 first for OG? LOL.