Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread II

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

why are people so high on Dyson? I wouldn't mind him as part of a package, but I feel like the Pelicans have to include that Lakers pick or at least Murphy if we're sending O.G. their way.

I'm not super high on him, there is a lot of uncertainty to his future. That said, when you look around at what you can get for OG, he is probably one of the best assets out there outside of 1st round picks.

Just like a lot of other talented prospects the shooting is not there, but he has good potential as a glue guy on defense who can crash the glass a bit and contribute to quality ball movement in an offense. He has a good team-first attitude and seems to love the game. Only turning 20 next month.

If he can develop a good stroke he could be like a Nic Batum type with much better defense.

[youreachiteach]

He's a t 33% now--which isn't bad for 19 years old. Give him an offseason of training and hell be adequate. He already has the driving and athleticism (as well as the size) to affect play positively.

[CanadaB-Ball]

Best case for Dyson Daniels is he's a mix of Giddey/Haliburton. He can fill the stat sheet like those 2 and he's a determined defender, but he will probably never be the playmaker those 2 are, which is okay if he's sharing those duties with Scottie.

He’s a significantly better defender than both already.

[WuTang_CMB]

He's a t 33% now--which isn't bad for 19 years old. Give him an offseason of training and hell be adequate. He already has the driving and athleticism (as well as the size) to affect play positively.

slow first step. his shot will need to be above average to really contribute

[Ackshun]

Desperate pelicans team currently in a 9 game losing with the trade deadline looming?

The conditions are ripe for a Masai fleecing

To Blake’s point on Tuesday ; they may shy away from a trade since these losses = not ready to go all in

[Rapsfan07]

NO would be stupid to trade the "higher" of LA or their 23' pick. So I'd expect it to be the "lesser"

Masai isn't giving up OG for anything less than a haul. You need any Trey included else forget it. I'm not doing DD plus lesser pick - that's not enough

the 2023 pick is a swap, so LA is still getting the crappier pick with the Pelicans getting the nicer pick. NO probably still needs to give up that pick if they want O.G. imo (or else Trey+DD+future draft compensation, or I suppose Ingram only if they actually wanted to do that, but I doubt it).

Yeah this is the package I believe is most reasonable for OG.

I've said it in this thread before but its either:

1. Daniels, Graham and the LAL pick for OG
2. Daniels, Murphy and Graham for OG and Flynn
3. Daniels, Murphy, Hayes, Graham for OG, Flynn, Young and Banton

[T-d0t]

Desperate pelicans team currently in a 9 game losing with the trade deadline looming?

The conditions are ripe for a Masai fleecing

To Blake’s point on Tuesday ; they may shy away from a trade since these losses = not ready to go all in

Most of their losses are with Zion/Ingram out and CJ struggling so the Pels need to make that decision for themselves

[DatHomieYouHaTe]

He's a t 33% now--which isn't bad for 19 years old. Give him an offseason of training and hell be adequate. He already has the driving and athleticism (as well as the size) to affect play positively.

slow first step. his shot will need to be above average to really contribute

Ya, seems like meh to me. Sharpe is more intriguing due to his athletic profile.

[isyed]

NO would be stupid to trade the "higher" of LA or their 23' pick. So I'd expect it to be the "lesser"

Masai isn't giving up OG for anything less than a haul. You need any Trey included else forget it. I'm not doing DD plus lesser pick - that's not enough

the 2023 pick is a swap, so LA is still getting the crappier pick with the Pelicans getting the nicer pick. NO probably still needs to give up that pick if they want O.G. imo (or else Trey+DD+future draft compensation, or I suppose Ingram only if they actually wanted to do that, but I doubt it).

Yeah this is the package I believe is most reasonable for OG.

I've said it in this thread before but its either:

1. Daniels, Graham and the LAL pick for OG
2. Daniels, Murphy and Graham for OG and Flynn
3. Daniels, Murphy, Hayes, Graham for OG, Flynn, Young and Banton

Agreed. I think if the Lakers go on win streak next few days we might just force the trade to go through. We get the better pick of the 2. Both teams are fairly close and with the Lakers surging and pels probably getting better with og pels might think both picks will be in the teens.

All it takes is a few more injuries to zion/ingram or lebron/ad for that pick to be a top 10.

Good chance it might happen or it might not. Worse case we end up with a 20th pick and best case a top 10 pick with an outside chance of getting into the top 4 if the lottery balls are on our side.

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[isyed]

What are the desperate team out there:

Suns
Blazers
Pels
Grizzlies (not as desparate but maybe more opportunistic)
Kings(with the warriors surging and West being competitive they might want to make a move)
Warriors (dark horse team if they want to go all in and make a godfather offer for og)
Wolves (not much to offer but if they decide they are going with Edwards as their go to player snd with towns being hurt for longer they might make him available to win immediately)


All teams with their picks. Lots of solid young players. Except the wolves.

Fred playing well helps us a lot. Lakers surging along with warriors makes the other desparate teams even more desparate.

Us taking L's is cherry in the top.

Fvv to magic and og our West makes sure that we end up going bottom 5th with more assets.




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[grant101]

NO would be stupid to trade the "higher" of LA or their 23' pick. So I'd expect it to be the "lesser"

Masai isn't giving up OG for anything less than a haul. You need any Trey included else forget it. I'm not doing DD plus lesser pick - that's not enough

the 2023 pick is a swap, so LA is still getting the crappier pick with the Pelicans getting the nicer pick. NO probably still needs to give up that pick if they want O.G. imo (or else Trey+DD+future draft compensation, or I suppose Ingram only if they actually wanted to do that, but I doubt it).

Yeah this is the package I believe is most reasonable for OG.

I've said it in this thread before but its either:

1. Daniels, Graham and the LAL pick for OG
2. Daniels, Murphy and Graham for OG and Flynn
3. Daniels, Murphy, Hayes, Graham for OG, Flynn, Young and Banton

I would add one more:

4) Murphy, Graham and the LAL pick for OG

and might consider:

5) Graham, Jones, LAL pick, and future Pels FRP for OG

[Boogie_Smooth]

why are people so high on Dyson? I wouldn't mind him as part of a package, but I feel like the Pelicans have to include that Lakers pick or at least Murphy if we're sending O.G. their way.

I'm not super high on him, there is a lot of uncertainty to his future. That said, when you look around at what you can get for OG, he is probably one of the best assets out there outside of 1st round picks.

Just like a lot of other talented prospects the shooting is not there, but he has good potential as a glue guy on defense who can crash the glass a bit and contribute to quality ball movement in an offense. He has a good team-first attitude and seems to love the game. Only turning 20 next month.

If he can develop a good stroke he could be like a Nic Batum type with much better defense.

I'm high on Dyson as well, he seems really unselfish, high basketball IQ, and amazing size at his position. With an increased role and our development program, I can see him really blossoming in Toronto. I'm in the camp that Masai and Bobby really contemplated taking him at #4 during the draft.

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

the 2023 pick is a swap, so LA is still getting the crappier pick with the Pelicans getting the nicer pick. NO probably still needs to give up that pick if they want O.G. imo (or else Trey+DD+future draft compensation, or I suppose Ingram only if they actually wanted to do that, but I doubt it).

Yeah this is the package I believe is most reasonable for OG.

I've said it in this thread before but its either:

1. Daniels, Graham and the LAL pick for OG
2. Daniels, Murphy and Graham for OG and Flynn
3. Daniels, Murphy, Hayes, Graham for OG, Flynn, Young and Banton

I would add one more:

4) Murphy, Graham and the LAL pick for OG

and might consider:

5) Graham, Jones, LAL pick, and future Pels FRP for OG

I wouldn't do either of those for OG. It's either Daniels and Murphy for me or Daniels and 1st rounders. Murphy, Graham and LAL 1st rounder isn't enough.

[Sizzle]

Fred and Pascal are better than OG, is one reason. But, I think trading two of OG/Fred/Trent is the best play here. You trade high on a malcontent and get what you can for a UFA who is about to get a raise. Pascal is golden. Hard to get equivalent talent back in trades of players of that stature.

This also isn't a Fred/Pascal or OG thing it's a "OG is unhappy here and wants a new team/situation" may as well get the max value for him. The team trading for him gets a full season and 2 playoff runs before he has to re-sign.

What’s the end game? We aren’t contending with Pascal and FVV and we are nowhere close to it. So we are now just fulfilling player’s wishes if they’re not happy with their role here? Yes let’s sign FVV to whatever he deems his value is, let Pascal and FVV lead us to the promise land…

There is no end game yet? Why does there have to be right now? Keep Scottie and Pascal until a better deal becomes available (pascal). don't forget, we are currently a bottom team with them on the team as well as FVV and OG, subtract them and i wouldnt be worrying about us winning alot of games.

[Boogie_Smooth]

the 2023 pick is a swap, so LA is still getting the crappier pick with the Pelicans getting the nicer pick. NO probably still needs to give up that pick if they want O.G. imo (or else Trey+DD+future draft compensation, or I suppose Ingram only if they actually wanted to do that, but I doubt it).

Yeah this is the package I believe is most reasonable for OG.

I've said it in this thread before but its either:

1. Daniels, Graham and the LAL pick for OG
2. Daniels, Murphy and Graham for OG and Flynn
3. Daniels, Murphy, Hayes, Graham for OG, Flynn, Young and Banton

I would add one more:

4) Murphy, Graham and the LAL pick for OG

and might consider:

5) Graham, Jones, LAL pick, and future Pels FRP for OG

Dyson and Murphy for OG would be a great trade, I would imagine that Masai is really trying to push for picks as well now that he has welcomed the Suns and Memphis to the negotiation table. My guess is Masai is focused on getting 2 cracks at Wembanyama/Scoot but does not want to tank past this year (ie. Young guys to add with Pascal and Barnes)

[SFour]

why are people so high on Dyson? I wouldn't mind him as part of a package, but I feel like the Pelicans have to include that Lakers pick or at least Murphy if we're sending O.G. their way.

Need the Lakers pick for sure....that's the main dish.

[ATLTimekeeper]

why are people so high on Dyson? I wouldn't mind him as part of a package, but I feel like the Pelicans have to include that Lakers pick or at least Murphy if we're sending O.G. their way.

I'm not super high on him, there is a lot of uncertainty to his future. That said, when you look around at what you can get for OG, he is probably one of the best assets out there outside of 1st round picks.

Just like a lot of other talented prospects the shooting is not there, but he has good potential as a glue guy on defense who can crash the glass a bit and contribute to quality ball movement in an offense. He has a good team-first attitude and seems to love the game. Only turning 20 next month.

If he can develop a good stroke he could be like a Nic Batum type with much better defense.

I'm high on Dyson as well, he seems really unselfish, high basketball IQ, and amazing size at his position. With an increased role and our development program, I can see him really blossoming in Toronto. I'm in the camp that Masai and Bobby really contemplated taking him at #4 during the draft.

Daniels went in last year's draft. They just interviewed him. But maybe they're sick of guys that can't shoot by now

[mg]

why are people so high on Dyson? I wouldn't mind him as part of a package, but I feel like the Pelicans have to include that Lakers pick or at least Murphy if we're sending O.G. their way.

I'm not super high on him, there is a lot of uncertainty to his future. That said, when you look around at what you can get for OG, he is probably one of the best assets out there outside of 1st round picks.

Just like a lot of other talented prospects the shooting is not there, but he has good potential as a glue guy on defense who can crash the glass a bit and contribute to quality ball movement in an offense. He has a good team-first attitude and seems to love the game. Only turning 20 next month.

If he can develop a good stroke he could be like a Nic Batum type with much better defense.

I'm high on Dyson as well, he seems really unselfish, high basketball IQ, and amazing size at his position. With an increased role and our development program, I can see him really blossoming in Toronto. I'm in the camp that Masai and Bobby really contemplated taking him at #4 during the draft.

Raps had the 4th pick in the 2021 draft.
Dyson was drafted #8 in 2022.

[Boogie_Smooth]

The conditions are ripe for a Masai fleecing

To Blake’s point on Tuesday ; they may shy away from a trade since these losses = not ready to go all in

Most of their losses are with Zion/Ingram out and CJ struggling so the Pels need to make that decision for themselves

I'm also guessing that they are looking at this for the long term, having OG as part of your core for the next 2-4 years is what they are acquiring, not just this season.

[sidsid]

Some long term synergy with a Pelicans trade regarding FO goals:

I don't think Masai is done chasing Giannis. He opts out in 2025. Masai prepares for him, and we ask for at least one of those late year Bucks picks in an OG trade.