Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread II

[Sizzle]

If we're going to trade OG, I think we should do it during the summer.

We trade Fred now - get some assets.
Maybe move GTJ - get some more assets (although I'd prefer to keep him).

Than revisit the OG / Pascal situation during the summer.

Knowing this management the way we do? This is an extremely plausible scenario. if Masai doesn't get an offer he likes there is no rush trade OG at the deadline (annoying but true)

[DelAbbot]

Imagine if we were to land Daniels and then somehow get his old buddy Scoot at the draft.

Lineup would look like

Scoot Henderson
Trey Murphy
Dyson Daniels
Scottie Barnes
?

3 of those guys are killer when it comes to ball movement. Dream scenario.

I leave the question mark in just not knowing what we would do with Siakam. You could envision the same lineup with Trey Murphy gobbling up 28-30 mins a game as a 6th man with heavy burn, Daniels at shooting guard, Scottie at SF and Pascal at PF.

If we swap OG for Murphy and Daniels, we are definitely going to win more games down the stretch and near zero chance at Scoot

[mtcan]

If we're going to trade OG, I think we should do it during the summer.

We trade Fred now - get some assets.
Maybe move GTJ - get some more assets (although I'd prefer to keep him).

Than revisit the OG / Pascal situation during the summer.

Knowing this management the way we do? This is an extremely plausible scenario. if Masai doesn't get an offer he likes there is no rush trade OG at the deadline (annoying but true)

I don't think the offers get any better in the summer.

Contending teams are willing to give up more now because they get OG for these upcoming playoffs as well as all of next season. You are often getting less when trading an expiring contract.

[mtcan]

Imagine if we were to land Daniels and then somehow get his old buddy Scoot at the draft.

Lineup would look like

Scoot Henderson
Trey Murphy
Dyson Daniels
Scottie Barnes
?

3 of those guys are killer when it comes to ball movement. Dream scenario.

I leave the question mark in just not knowing what we would do with Siakam. You could envision the same lineup with Trey Murphy gobbling up 28-30 mins a game as a 6th man with heavy burn, Daniels at shooting guard, Scottie at SF and Pascal at PF.

If we swap OG for Murphy and Daniels, we are definitely going to win more games down the stretch and near zero chance at Scoot

Send them to the 905. lol

[grant101]

Yeah this is the package I believe is most reasonable for OG.

I've said it in this thread before but its either:

1. Daniels, Graham and the LAL pick for OG
2. Daniels, Murphy and Graham for OG and Flynn
3. Daniels, Murphy, Hayes, Graham for OG, Flynn, Young and Banton

I would add one more:

4) Murphy, Graham and the LAL pick for OG

and might consider:

5) Graham, Jones, LAL pick, and future Pels FRP for OG

I wouldn't do either of those for OG. It's either Daniels and Murphy for me or Daniels and 1st rounders. Murphy, Graham and LAL 1st rounder isn't enough.

Fair enough, guess I'm just higher on Murphy. Also, I wouldn't mind shorting the Pelicans future if the additional Pels pick is far enough away given CJs age and how injury prone Zion and Ingram have been to date.

[RedVanVleet]

I wonder if Zion is putting much pressure on his FO to get this done. I would imagine so.

2 years of a OG is so much better than 1

Sadly, need to trade him now

[bballsparkin]

I would add one more:

4) Murphy, Graham and the LAL pick for OG

and might consider:

5) Graham, Jones, LAL pick, and future Pels FRP for OG

I wouldn't do either of those for OG. It's either Daniels and Murphy for me or Daniels and 1st rounders. Murphy, Graham and LAL 1st rounder isn't enough.

Fair enough, guess I'm just higher on Murphy. Also, I wouldn't mind shorting the Pelicans future if the additional Pels pick is far enough away given CJs age and how injury prone Zion and Ingram have been to date.

I would be open to both of those offers. Assuming it's true that OG wants out those are respectable offers imho.

[tecumseh18]

If we're going to trade OG, I think we should do it during the summer.

We trade Fred now - get some assets.
Maybe move GTJ - get some more assets (although I'd prefer to keep him).

Than revisit the OG / Pascal situation during the summer.

Knowing this management the way we do? This is an extremely plausible scenario. if Masai doesn't get an offer he likes there is no rush trade OG at the deadline (annoying but true)

As has often been noted by me and others on this board, Masai proved he was a gangster with the Lowry near-trade at the deadline. Not only did we end up with a guy we really like (maybe more than Maxey), but Masai (re-)confirmed to the rest of the league that he DGAF about your puny offers. Go big or go home.

[Swag]

If we're going to trade OG, I think we should do it during the summer.

We trade Fred now - get some assets.
Maybe move GTJ - get some more assets (although I'd prefer to keep him).

Than revisit the OG / Pascal situation during the summer.

Knowing this management the way we do? This is an extremely plausible scenario. if Masai doesn't get an offer he likes there is no rush trade OG at the deadline (annoying but true)

I don't think the offers get any better in the summer.

Contending teams are willing to give up more now because they get OG for these upcoming playoffs as well as all of next season. You are often getting less when trading an expiring contract.

In the summer, more teams will convince themselves to strive to become contenders (ie, signing free agents, internal development, etc) and this can provide us the opportunity for a better package.

Take the Wolves as an example. They thought the would contend this season and gave a king's ransom for Rudy.

The Pelicans would do the same in the summer. Maybe a team like the Thunder.

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

I would add one more:

4) Murphy, Graham and the LAL pick for OG

and might consider:

5) Graham, Jones, LAL pick, and future Pels FRP for OG

I wouldn't do either of those for OG. It's either Daniels and Murphy for me or Daniels and 1st rounders. Murphy, Graham and LAL 1st rounder isn't enough.

Fair enough, guess I'm just higher on Murphy. Also, I wouldn't mind shorting the Pelicans future if the additional Pels pick is far enough away given CJs age and how injury prone Zion and Ingram have been to date.

Murphy is pretty dope because of his deep range and shooting percentages, but he doesn't bring a whole lot to the table other than his stroke. He'll be 23 this summer. Playmaking is subpar, great FT shooter but not the kind of guy who will get to the line a lot as he can't create too much off the dribble.

He'll always be a role player IMO.

Unless Masai thinks this kid will be able to get better and better as a shooter like a young Kyle Korver what he brings to the table isn't enough to basically be a 1 for 1 trade for OG with a likely late lottery pick included.

[JRoy]

I wonder if Zion is putting much pressure on his FO to get this done. I would imagine so.

2 years of a OG is so much better than 1

Sadly, need to trade him now

As long as he’s not putting more pressure on those feet.

[Sizzle]

Knowing this management the way we do? This is an extremely plausible scenario. if Masai doesn't get an offer he likes there is no rush trade OG at the deadline (annoying but true)

I don't think the offers get any better in the summer.

Contending teams are willing to give up more now because they get OG for these upcoming playoffs as well as all of next season. You are often getting less when trading an expiring contract.

In the summer, more teams will convince themselves to strive to become contenders (ie, signing free agents, internal development, etc) and this can provide us the opportunity for a better package.

Take the Wolves as an example. They thought the would contend this season and gave a king's ransom for Rudy.

The Pelicans would do the same in the summer. Maybe a team like the Thunder.

Agree, and listen... Is it what we all want to happen this week? Probably not and definitely not as exciting as fans. Does Masai care? Not one bit.. If the deal he thinks OG is worth isn't there? He wont get traded this week, bottom line

[HangTime]

Imagine we get the LA/NO pick, and continue tanking, and end up with the #1 and #2 pick.

[WuTang_CMB]

I wouldn't do either of those for OG. It's either Daniels and Murphy for me or Daniels and 1st rounders. Murphy, Graham and LAL 1st rounder isn't enough.

Fair enough, guess I'm just higher on Murphy. Also, I wouldn't mind shorting the Pelicans future if the additional Pels pick is far enough away given CJs age and how injury prone Zion and Ingram have been to date.

Murphy is pretty dope because of his deep range and shooting percentages, but he doesn't bring a whole lot to the table other than his stroke. He'll be 23 this summer. Playmaking is subpar, great FT shooter but not the kind of guy who will get to the line a lot as he can't create too much off the dribble.

He'll always be a role player IMO.

second year player and blossoming - has really good upside. He's the get from NO not Dyson. Length, shooting and growing his dribble drive game. It's already at OG's level. Him next to Scottie is a real core piece .. labeling his future as just a role player is short changing him IMO

[Sizzle]

If we're going to trade OG, I think we should do it during the summer.

We trade Fred now - get some assets.
Maybe move GTJ - get some more assets (although I'd prefer to keep him).

Than revisit the OG / Pascal situation during the summer.

Knowing this management the way we do? This is an extremely plausible scenario. if Masai doesn't get an offer he likes there is no rush trade OG at the deadline (annoying but true)

I don't think the offers get any better in the summer.

Contending teams are willing to give up more now because they get OG for these upcoming playoffs as well as all of next season. You are often getting less when trading an expiring contract.

I guess it all really depends on what the offers are right now doesn't it? Do we know if the Raps management even likes Dyson etc? We can assume they do and they probably should but i bet there are other players out there that they are targeting who haven't been mentioned.

[mtcan]

Knowing this management the way we do? This is an extremely plausible scenario. if Masai doesn't get an offer he likes there is no rush trade OG at the deadline (annoying but true)

I don't think the offers get any better in the summer.

Contending teams are willing to give up more now because they get OG for these upcoming playoffs as well as all of next season. You are often getting less when trading an expiring contract.

In the summer, more teams will convince themselves to strive to become contenders (ie, signing free agents, internal development, etc) and this can provide us the opportunity for a better package.

Take the Wolves as an example. They thought the would contend this season and gave a king's ransom for Rudy.

The Pelicans would do the same in the summer. Maybe a team like the Thunder.

IMO...teams are willing to deal for Gobert because he has many years on his contract. Similarly with the KD situation last summer...teams were expected to give up a haul because KD has 4 years on contract.

An expiring contract is a different conversation.

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

Fair enough, guess I'm just higher on Murphy. Also, I wouldn't mind shorting the Pelicans future if the additional Pels pick is far enough away given CJs age and how injury prone Zion and Ingram have been to date.

Murphy is pretty dope because of his deep range and shooting percentages, but he doesn't bring a whole lot to the table other than his stroke. He'll be 23 this summer. Playmaking is subpar, great FT shooter but not the kind of guy who will get to the line a lot as he can't create too much off the dribble.

He'll always be a role player IMO.

second year player and blossoming - has really good upside. He's the get from NO not Dyson. Length, shooting and growing his dribble drive game. It's already at OG's level. Him next to Scottie is a real core piece .. labeling his future as just a role player is short changing him IMO

My grandma's dribble drive game is already at OG's level too

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

I do agree that he would be a nice outlet for Scottie, ngl.

[RedVanVleet]

On a side note Ingram is only 1 year older than herb Jones

[Swag]

I don't think the offers get any better in the summer.

Contending teams are willing to give up more now because they get OG for these upcoming playoffs as well as all of next season. You are often getting less when trading an expiring contract.

In the summer, more teams will convince themselves to strive to become contenders (ie, signing free agents, internal development, etc) and this can provide us the opportunity for a better package.

Take the Wolves as an example. They thought the would contend this season and gave a king's ransom for Rudy.

The Pelicans would do the same in the summer. Maybe a team like the Thunder.

IMO...teams are willing to deal for Gobert because he has many years on his contract. Similarly with the KD situation last summer...teams were expected to give up a haul because KD has 4 years on contract.

An expiring contract is a different conversation.

They will have OG's bird rights and max him out.