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Re: [Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG 

Post#1101 » by Yeezus_ » Fri Feb 3, 2023 2:19 pm

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Re: [Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG 

Post#1102 » by Yeezus_ » Fri Feb 3, 2023 2:21 pm

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mademan wrote:man seeing Norm doing what he's doing and coming off the bench and being cool with it, and seeing OG whining about wanting a bigger role when he's a worse offensive player.

why we trade Norm again? Love that dude


Massive blunder, imo...

Would trade him even up for Fred in a heartbeat...

You keep pushing this agenda in multiple threads. How does Fred for Norm make any sense for the Raptors. We have like 1 playmaker on the team and you want to to acquire another straight line scorer who doesn't pass? We have enough of those. You might dislike Fred but he has way more value than Norm. Norm got traded in the summer as a salary dump.
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Re: [Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG 

Post#1103 » by Clay Davis » Fri Feb 3, 2023 2:55 pm

Tha Cynic wrote:The value Masia has set for OG is probably extremely high.

OG is 25, a very good 3 point shooter, an elite defender and plays within the flow of the offense without letting it affect his defense.

He's a guy who would start on any championship team and extremely valuable because he can fit into any offense and won't demand the ball.

I wouldn't be surprised if he's not traded this deadline.

Which is why it is odd that there are reports about him wanting a bigger role on the offence… I think if there’s one player that’d be true of, it’d be FVV.


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Re: [Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG 

Post#1104 » by Tha Cynic » Fri Feb 3, 2023 3:03 pm

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Tha Cynic wrote:The value Masia has set for OG is probably extremely high.

OG is 25, a very good 3 point shooter, an elite defender and plays within the flow of the offense without letting it affect his defense.

He's a guy who would start on any championship team and extremely valuable because he can fit into any offense and won't demand the ball.

I wouldn't be surprised if he's not traded this deadline.

Which is why it is odd that there are reports about him wanting a bigger role on the offence… I think if there’s one player that’d be true of, it’d be FVV.


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It further doesn't make sense when you consider the fact that he wouldn't get a bigger offensive role on a contending team.

I think he's just not happy with how sloppy the offense is when we play FVV/Siakam ball, which can easily be fixed by changing our offensive system or moving on from a player like FVV who doesn't really make sense on this team going forward.
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Re: [Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG 

Post#1105 » by pingpongrac » Fri Feb 3, 2023 3:06 pm

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mademan wrote:man seeing Norm doing what he's doing and coming off the bench and being cool with it, and seeing OG whining about wanting a bigger role when he's a worse offensive player.

why we trade Norm again? Love that dude


Massive blunder, imo...

Would trade him even up for Fred in a heartbeat...

You keep pushing this agenda in multiple threads. How does Fred for Norm make any sense for the Raptors. We have like 1 playmaker on the team and you want to to acquire another straight line scorer who doesn't pass? We have enough of those. You might dislike Fred but he has way more value than Norm. Norm got traded in the summer as a salary dump.
Not to mention Powell can do one thing and one thing only. Even in a year he's putting up 23.5 PTS per36 on 62 TS%, the Clippers are significantly better with him off the floor because he does nothing else at an even decent level.
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Re: [Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG 

Post#1106 » by YogurtProducer » Fri Feb 3, 2023 3:30 pm

pingpongrac wrote:
Yeezus_ wrote:
Kingsway_fan wrote:
Massive blunder, imo...

Would trade him even up for Fred in a heartbeat...

You keep pushing this agenda in multiple threads. How does Fred for Norm make any sense for the Raptors. We have like 1 playmaker on the team and you want to to acquire another straight line scorer who doesn't pass? We have enough of those. You might dislike Fred but he has way more value than Norm. Norm got traded in the summer as a salary dump.
Not to mention Powell can do one thing and one thing only. Even in a year he's putting up 23.5 PTS per36 on 62 TS%, the Clippers are significantly better with him off the floor because he does nothing else at an even decent level.

Yeah he is a bad to average defender, horrid playmaker, does not rebound, etc.

To be fair GTJ fits a lot of those criticism's as well but at least he has some semblance of shot creation and age on his side.
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Re: [Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG 

Post#1107 » by Spida888 » Fri Feb 3, 2023 4:17 pm

Updated DraftKing Trade Odds:
https://sportsbook.draftkings.com/leagues/basketball/nba?category=trade-deadline

OG -500 (same)
Fred -280 (previously -150)
Gary -250 (previously -200)
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Re: [Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG 

Post#1108 » by WuTang_CMB » Fri Feb 3, 2023 4:19 pm

Spida888 wrote:Updated DraftKing Trade Odds:
https://sportsbook.draftkings.com/leagues/basketball/nba?category=trade-deadline

OG -500 (same)
Fred -280 (previously -150)
Gary -250 (previously -200)


-500 for OG

Wow .. didnt think it'd be that high
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Re: [Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG 

Post#1109 » by T-d0t » Fri Feb 3, 2023 4:58 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:
Spida888 wrote:Updated DraftKing Trade Odds:
https://sportsbook.draftkings.com/leagues/basketball/nba?category=trade-deadline

OG -500 (same)
Fred -280 (previously -150)
Gary -250 (previously -200)


-500 for OG

Wow .. didnt think it'd be that high

Not a betting guy, does that mean OG is odds on favorite to be traded ?
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Post#1110 » by Brinbe » Fri Feb 3, 2023 5:00 pm

T-d0t wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
Spida888 wrote:Updated DraftKing Trade Odds:
https://sportsbook.draftkings.com/leagues/basketball/nba?category=trade-deadline

OG -500 (same)
Fred -280 (previously -150)
Gary -250 (previously -200)


-500 for OG

Wow .. didnt think it'd be that high

Not a betting guy, does that mean OG is odds on favorite to be traded ?

yep. 2nd highest odds aside from crowder who is a near-lock to be dealt.

think there's a pretty high chance OG is gone. Maybe Fred too.
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Re: [Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG 

Post#1111 » by NinjaBro » Fri Feb 3, 2023 5:00 pm

T-d0t wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
Spida888 wrote:Updated DraftKing Trade Odds:
https://sportsbook.draftkings.com/leagues/basketball/nba?category=trade-deadline

OG -500 (same)
Fred -280 (previously -150)
Gary -250 (previously -200)


-500 for OG

Wow .. didnt think it'd be that high

Not a betting guy, does that mean OG is odds on favorite to be traded ?


-500 means you have to bet 500 to win 100, -280 means you have to bet 280 to win 100. So yes of the 3 OG is the favorite to be traded.
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Post#1112 » by YogurtProducer » Fri Feb 3, 2023 5:02 pm

NinjaBro wrote:
T-d0t wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
-500 for OG

Wow .. didnt think it'd be that high

Not a betting guy, does that mean OG is odds on favorite to be traded ?


-500 means you have to bet 500 to win 100, -280 means you have to bet 280 to win 100. So yes of the 3 OG is the favorite to be traded.

Means DK thinks its its more likely than not that those 3 get moved which is wild.
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Re: [Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG 

Post#1113 » by Yeezus_ » Fri Feb 3, 2023 5:05 pm

YogurtProducer wrote:
NinjaBro wrote:
T-d0t wrote:Not a betting guy, does that mean OG is odds on favorite to be traded ?


-500 means you have to bet 500 to win 100, -280 means you have to bet 280 to win 100. So yes of the 3 OG is the favorite to be traded.

Means DK thinks its its more likely than not that those 3 get moved which is wild.

It doesn't mean they think that, it's what they think the betters think.
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Re: [Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG 

Post#1114 » by Steelo Green » Fri Feb 3, 2023 5:07 pm

OG isn't a very good three point shooter. He has shot 36% two years in a row and never hit 40.
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Post#1115 » by YogurtProducer » Fri Feb 3, 2023 5:08 pm

Yeezus_ wrote:
YogurtProducer wrote:
NinjaBro wrote:
-500 means you have to bet 500 to win 100, -280 means you have to bet 280 to win 100. So yes of the 3 OG is the favorite to be traded.

Means DK thinks its its more likely than not that those 3 get moved which is wild.

It doesn't mean they think that, it's what they think the betters think.

That is somewhat true, but they also are not gonna give you good odds if they have a hunch.
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Re: [Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG 

Post#1116 » by YogurtProducer » Fri Feb 3, 2023 5:08 pm

Steelo Green wrote:OG isn't a very good three point shooter. He has shot 36% two years in a row and never hit 40.

While I agree, he has hit 39.8% one season so the 40% comment is a bit cherry picked

But he just does not have sufficient volume. His %'s are fine.

My biggest issue with OG is that he has plateaued. 3 straight years his per 36 numbers are

17/6/2
17/6/3
17/6/2

His efficiency has gone down as well. Defensively he is as good as ever but his best value comes as a 4th/5th option, and I think we can extract really good value from a guy who wont ever be an all-star
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Post#1117 » by ItsDanger » Fri Feb 3, 2023 5:10 pm

Spida888 wrote:Updated DraftKing Trade Odds:
https://sportsbook.draftkings.com/leagues/basketball/nba?category=trade-deadline

OG -500 (same)
Fred -280 (previously -150)
Gary -250 (previously -200)

If you bet, ask yourself, can you bet on him not being traded with this book? I know you're probably just posting the odds for trade interest's sake.
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Re: [Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG 

Post#1118 » by Spida888 » Fri Feb 3, 2023 5:19 pm

ItsDanger wrote:
Spida888 wrote:Updated DraftKing Trade Odds:
https://sportsbook.draftkings.com/leagues/basketball/nba?category=trade-deadline

OG -500 (same)
Fred -280 (previously -150)
Gary -250 (previously -200)

If you bet, ask yourself, can you bet on him not being traded with this book? I know you're probably just posting the odds for trade interest's sake.

Yeah, I'm not betting on these lol. Only looked to monitor the chance of them getting traded. I recalled a few years back, right before we got Kawhi, sportsbooks' odds were trending in our favour.
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Re: [Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG 

Post#1119 » by Steelo Green » Fri Feb 3, 2023 5:20 pm

YogurtProducer wrote:
Steelo Green wrote:OG isn't a very good three point shooter. He has shot 36% two years in a row and never hit 40.

While I agree, he has hit 39.8% one season so the 40% comment is a bit cherry picked

But he just does not have sufficient volume. His %'s are fine.

My biggest issue with OG is that he has plateaued. 3 straight years his per 36 numbers are

17/6/2
17/6/3
17/6/2

His efficiency has gone down as well. Defensively he is as good as ever but his best value comes as a 4th/5th option, and I think we can extract really good value from a guy who wont ever be an all-star

Is OG a very good three point shooter - no. Simple.
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Re: [Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG 

Post#1120 » by Harcore Fenton Mun » Fri Feb 3, 2023 5:30 pm

OG was 3-D, now he's more like a low post player. Hence, why I'm good with parting ways.

I can't see us paying him what he wants, when he can't do what we want any more.
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