[Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG

[tripa]

Means DK thinks its its more likely than not that those 3 get moved which is wild.

It doesn't mean they think that, it's what they think the betters think.

That is somewhat true, but they also are not gonna give you good odds if they have a hunch.

DraftKings isnt setting the odds based on their own hunch on that event specifically. Thats not how it works.

[YogurtProducer]

OG isn't a very good three point shooter. He has shot 36% two years in a row and never hit 40.

While I agree, he has hit 39.8% one season so the 40% comment is a bit cherry picked

But he just does not have sufficient volume. His %'s are fine.

My biggest issue with OG is that he has plateaued. 3 straight years his per 36 numbers are

17/6/2
17/6/3
17/6/2

His efficiency has gone down as well. Defensively he is as good as ever but his best value comes as a 4th/5th option, and I think we can extract really good value from a guy who wont ever be an all-star

Is OG a very good three point shooter - no. Simple.

He is entirely adequate shooting the ball. He should not be the 3rd best shooter on your team however. That is not a knock on OG however.

[ash_k]

OG was 3-D, now he's more like a low post player. Hence, why I'm good with parting ways.

I can't see us paying him what he wants, when he can't do what we want any more.

Source? How much does he want?

[YogurtProducer]

It doesn't mean they think that, it's what they think the betters think.

That is somewhat true, but they also are not gonna give you good odds if they have a hunch.

DraftKings isnt setting the odds based on their own hunch. Thats not how it works.

Didn't odds skyrocket to Toronto to get Kawhi the day before it happened?

They did not do that because suddenly people were betting on Toronto. It is more likely somehow information got to them that there was serious talks. Vegas is not going to solely put odds on other peoples bets if it is going to lose them money and they know it. They obviously set lines so that no matter in the long run they win, but if they know something the general public does not they will adjust for that as well.

[Harcore Fenton Mun]

OG was 3-D, now he's more like a low post player. Hence, why I'm good with parting ways.

I can't see us paying him what he wants, when he can't do what we want any more.

Source? How much does he want?

It's nothing new, he's been on this path since he joined Klutch. They don't pay 3-D players the type of money he wants, that's why he wants the bigger role.

[alienchild]

man seeing Norm doing what he's doing and coming off the bench and being cool with it, and seeing OG whining about wanting a bigger role when he's a worse offensive player.

why we trade Norm again? Love that dude

Massive blunder, imo...

Would trade him even up for Fred in a heartbeat...

You keep pushing this agenda in multiple threads. How does Fred for Norm make any sense for the Raptors. We have like 1 playmaker on the team and you want to to acquire another straight line scorer who doesn't pass? We have enough of those. You might dislike Fred but he has way more value than Norm. Norm got traded in the summer as a salary dump.

This is not a fact. There is no place where he has said this. The only thing he has said directly is wanting to be defensive player of the year. It's sickening when posters read something in the media and then take it like the player said it from his mouth. And then make a series of posts based on non-facts that they are treating like gospel. Load of crap.

[Harcore Fenton Mun]

The "bigger role" thing was basically confirmed by OG and Nurse in camp. My sense is he's happy to stay if we pay him what he wants.

We're here because they probably don't want to pay him. They shopped him in the summer too.

[Steelo Green]

While I agree, he has hit 39.8% one season so the 40% comment is a bit cherry picked

But he just does not have sufficient volume. His %'s are fine.

My biggest issue with OG is that he has plateaued. 3 straight years his per 36 numbers are

17/6/2
17/6/3
17/6/2

His efficiency has gone down as well. Defensively he is as good as ever but his best value comes as a 4th/5th option, and I think we can extract really good value from a guy who wont ever be an all-star

Is OG a very good three point shooter - no. Simple.

He is entirely adequate shooting the ball. He should not be the 3rd best shooter on your team however. That is not a knock on OG however.

Again - the point made was is he a very good three point shooter.

It’s a no.

Adjusting for attempts and he’s not even in the top 50 and that too is mostly off C&S.

OG is a D guy and a mediocre 3 guy.

[ATLTimekeeper]

The "bigger role" thing was basically confirmed by OG and Nurse in camp. My sense is he's happy to stay if we pay him what he wants.

We're here because they probably don't want to pay him. They shopped him in the summer too.

It's also tough to get DPOY votes in a media wasteland. He won't want Memphis, either, because he can't win DPOY over JJJ. He'll want NOP where he 1) doesn't have to ever guard Zion and 2) has ESPN following them around 24/7 because of Zion and 3) can be recognized for his defense on all those national TV games/get votes.

[Harcore Fenton Mun]

The "bigger role" thing was basically confirmed by OG and Nurse in camp. My sense is he's happy to stay if we pay him what he wants.

We're here because they probably don't want to pay him. They shopped him in the summer too.

It's also tough to get DPOY votes in a media wasteland. He won't want Memphis, either, because he can't win DPOY over JJJ. He'll want NOP where he 1) doesn't have to ever guard Zion and 2) has ESPN following them around 24/7 because of Zion and 3) can be recognized for his defense on all those national TV games/get votes.

He's like 4th in DPOY, soo....the offers we're getting are insane relative to his value.

[Brinbe]

I think the emergence of Precious recently pretty much sealed it for the FO. Precious gives you a lot of the same stuff with a better handle and quick-twitch athleticism.

We're pretty fortunate that the market is what it is. They've played things pretty smartly in terms of building interest. They will make out extremely well in the next week as teams get desperate.

Daniels/Murphy/Hayes/Laker pick get 2 or 3 of those assets going forward and we're not in a bad spot. Even a guy like Graham may probably be a salary throw-in but he'd actually be great for us a scoring guard.

[Bruin]

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[Clay Davis]

As if I needed another reason to hate Dillon Brooks

His attitude would be perfect here.

The Raptors need that guy like Dillon Brooks and Marcus Smart. They get under the opponents' skin and ball out.

Scottie does that, and he manages to still be loved.

[Brinbe]

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pretty much revisiting the draft trade they didn't make. I'm a pretty big believer in Sharpe so that'd be a good get.

[PhilBlackson]

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pretty much revisiting the draft trade they didn't make. I'm a pretty big believer in Sharpe so that'd be a good get.

Do it Portland! lol

We need to come out of an OG trade with one of Daniels or Sharpe. Most people already know I'd LOVE for us to get Shaedon.

[Harcore Fenton Mun]

His attitude would be perfect here.

The Raptors need that guy like Dillon Brooks and Marcus Smart. They get under the opponents' skin and ball out.

Scottie does that, and he manages to still be loved.

It's funny, right after I said that he goes and starts a fight with Mitchell.

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[YogurtProducer]

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pretty much revisiting the draft trade they didn't make. I'm a pretty big believer in Sharpe so that'd be a good get.

Prob would be Sharpe and Hart. Maybe a pick.

[WuTang_CMB]

Sharpe could be wearing a raps jersey in dunk contest

[Bruin]

Sharpe could be wearing a raps jersey in dunk contest

Now that would be pretty cool. It’s been a while since we’ve had a Raptor in a competition that Raptors have historically put on a great show

[Brinbe]

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pretty much revisiting the draft trade they didn't make. I'm a pretty big believer in Sharpe so that'd be a good get.

Prob would be Sharpe and Hart. Maybe a pick.

I'm a pretty huge Josh Hart fan too so that would be a winning deal in my books.