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Re: 2023 Trade Rumors 

Post#121 » by Inigo Montoya » Fri Feb 3, 2023 5:52 pm

SoCalJazzFan wrote:Perhaps even crazier is a recent report that the Hawks have had at least half of the league interested in Bogdanavic. Their new management, which includes the owner's son, has an interesting approach.


This rumor doesn't really bother me because it is brand new. We've been hearing about Collins for more than two seasons now and there doesn't seem any rime or reason for them, they're just all over the place.
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Re: 2023 Trade Rumors 

Post#122 » by D Rog » Fri Feb 3, 2023 6:50 pm

I have yet to see a solid reason why the Jazz should move Beasley. I like his toughness (something the Jazz have lacked for a few years) and he is 4 years younger than Clarkson thus Beasley fits more in line with the age of the "rebuilding / retooling" Jazz. The Jazz can keep Beasley at a team option for $16M for next year or hope they can resign Clarkson for next year between $20M - $25M.
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Re: 2023 Trade Rumors 

Post#123 » by SoCalJazzFan » Fri Feb 3, 2023 7:13 pm

Read on Twitter


It might be a crazy week.
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Re: 2023 Trade Rumors 

Post#124 » by D Rog » Fri Feb 3, 2023 7:21 pm

SoCalJazzFan wrote:
Read on Twitter


It might be a crazy week.


I laugh at that... Last week Kyrie was open to an extension with Brooklyn. I don't think extending him at this time is crucial to Brooklyn so he says he wants a trade or he will leave. He will only want to play for 1 of 4 or 5 teams and they probably won't be able to sign him as a free agent for the kind of $$$ he wants. I am so burned out on the attitude of so many of these pampered athletes.
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Post#125 » by SoCalJazzFan » Fri Feb 3, 2023 7:25 pm

I anticipate a tweet about KD wanting out this afternoon. Unfortunately for the Jazz, their position of strength as one of the primo sellers in a sellers market might go out the window.
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Re: 2023 Trade Rumors 

Post#126 » by Inigo Montoya » Fri Feb 3, 2023 7:40 pm

What a franchise killer.
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Re: 2023 Trade Rumors 

Post#127 » by Inigo Montoya » Fri Feb 3, 2023 7:46 pm

SoCalJazzFan wrote:I anticipate a tweet about KD wanting out this afternoon. Unfortunately for the Jazz, their position of strength as one of the primo sellers in a sellers market might go out the window.

We were overtaken once the Raptors became sellers. But we still have plenty of assets, and could be an ideal partner in 3-team deals.

And regardless, I pity the fool who'll be willing to trade for Irving and give him a new contract. It will not end well.
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Post#128 » by dautjazz » Sat Feb 4, 2023 4:46 am

There is gonna be a lot of movement this week, I could see us involved in a couple. If Lakers are dumb enough to trade firsts for role players, I say do it, I dont care, send Westbrook, we can waive him if not whatever we aren't going to make noise in the playoffs anyways, so a couple of months of dealing with him is worth it for picks.

That said Lakers are probably eyeing Irving right now. It actually makes sense for them, it's either a swing and a miss, or they could win a title.
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Re: 2023 Trade Rumors 

Post#129 » by Crunch 99 » Sat Feb 4, 2023 3:34 pm

I agree with this hot take from Steven A. Smith that the trade request by Kyrie Irving is "idiotic" and diminishes his chances to get another big, long term contract.
https://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=35583373

But maybe he lucks out, lands on his feet with the Suns or Lakers and plays out the season to a good result?
https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/270260/Suns-Join-Lakers-Mavericks-With-Interest-In-Kyrie-Irving
The Suns are considered one of the few teams that could offer a package to the Nets that would keep both teams in pursuit of a championship.
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Re: 2023 Trade Rumors 

Post#130 » by red4hf » Sat Feb 4, 2023 5:08 pm

Report: Knicks, Jazz discuss Obi Toppin trade

https://empiresportsmedia.com/new-york-knicks/report-knicks-jazz-discuss-obi-toppin-trade/
“Utah is seeking the equivalent of a first-round pick to acquire each player. In these particular trade talks, Toppin would potentially be that equivalent for Vanderbilt with Utah seeking a potential first-round pick for taking on Fournier’s salary ($18.86 million next season and $19 million team option for 2024-25) and parting with Beasley, who has a $16.5 million team option for next season. Thus far, New York has been reluctant to attach a first-round pick to move off Fournier’s salary.”


I kind of like it......
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Re: 2023 Trade Rumors 

Post#131 » by Dzon Dilindzer » Sat Feb 4, 2023 5:08 pm

guys, do you know who travis garlick is and is he relevant, he tweets a lot about utah jazz

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Re: 2023 Trade Rumors 

Post#132 » by Inigo Montoya » Sat Feb 4, 2023 5:32 pm

Dzon Dilindzer wrote:guys, do you know who travis garlick is and is he relevant, he tweets a lot about utah jazz

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I don't know who this guy is and if he's reliable. But this is from yesterday:

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Re: 2023 Trade Rumors 

Post#133 » by Inigo Montoya » Sat Feb 4, 2023 5:37 pm

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Report: Knicks, Jazz discuss Obi Toppin trade

https://empiresportsmedia.com/new-york-knicks/report-knicks-jazz-discuss-obi-toppin-trade/
“Utah is seeking the equivalent of a first-round pick to acquire each player. In these particular trade talks, Toppin would potentially be that equivalent for Vanderbilt with Utah seeking a potential first-round pick for taking on Fournier’s salary ($18.86 million next season and $19 million team option for 2024-25) and parting with Beasley, who has a $16.5 million team option for next season. Thus far, New York has been reluctant to attach a first-round pick to move off Fournier’s salary.”


I kind of like it......


I don't see the point in this trade. Do we really need to go through all that just so we can add another (probably) protected pick? I'd bet there are better trades. I don't see the reason to move on from our current players just so we could replace them with older players who don't improve our team.
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Re: 2023 Trade Rumors 

Post#134 » by Dzon Dilindzer » Sat Feb 4, 2023 5:43 pm

Inigo Montoya wrote:I don't know who this guy is and if he's reliable. But this is from yesterday:

Read on Twitter

are they reliable

shams also talked about this, so there are negotiations
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Re: 2023 Trade Rumors 

Post#135 » by Inigo Montoya » Sat Feb 4, 2023 5:48 pm

Dzon Dilindzer wrote:
Inigo Montoya wrote:I don't know who this guy is and if he's reliable. But this is from yesterday:

Read on Twitter

are they reliable

shams also talked about this, so there are negotiations

I'm not really sure about their reliability (or anyone's really), but I included the tweet to provide context and show that there are other sources that support what you posted.

Assuming the trade goes through, what can you tell us about Nassir Little?
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Re: 2023 Trade Rumors 

Post#136 » by red4hf » Sat Feb 4, 2023 6:00 pm

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red4hf wrote:
Report: Knicks, Jazz discuss Obi Toppin trade

https://empiresportsmedia.com/new-york-knicks/report-knicks-jazz-discuss-obi-toppin-trade/
“Utah is seeking the equivalent of a first-round pick to acquire each player. In these particular trade talks, Toppin would potentially be that equivalent for Vanderbilt with Utah seeking a potential first-round pick for taking on Fournier’s salary ($18.86 million next season and $19 million team option for 2024-25) and parting with Beasley, who has a $16.5 million team option for next season. Thus far, New York has been reluctant to attach a first-round pick to move off Fournier’s salary.”


I kind of like it......


I don't see the point in this trade. Do we really need to go through all that just so we can add another (probably) protected pick? I'd bet there are better trades. I don't see the reason to move on from our current players just so we could replace them with older players who don't improve our team.


I like Toppin, I think he could play next to Lauri and Kessler....... But we'll see, maybe a better deal will come along....
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Re: 2023 Trade Rumors 

Post#137 » by Dzon Dilindzer » Sat Feb 4, 2023 6:10 pm

Inigo Montoya wrote:I'm not really sure about their reliability (or anyone's really), but I included the tweet to provide context and show that there are other sources that support what you posted.

Assuming the trade goes through, what can you tell us about Nassir Little?

nassir little (small forward) will be 23 yo in a week, hes injury prone (unfortunately), but hes a solid player that can improve further and have a long career in the nba if he can stay healthy, which i really hope he can, cause hes a really nice, humble guy

he plays with a lot of energy and hustle on both ends of the floor, hes a lob threat and can score in transition, loves to drive to the basket and finish with the dunk and so far this season, hes shooting 41.3% on 2.4 3-pointers per game, which is career best

id like to keep nassir, hes on a cheap contract and is a true team guy, youre never gonna see him demand touches or complain about anything, he will do his job to the best of his ability and you simply like players like that
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Re: 2023 Trade Rumors 

Post#138 » by Inigo Montoya » Sat Feb 4, 2023 6:19 pm

Dzon Dilindzer wrote:
Inigo Montoya wrote:I'm not really sure about their reliability (or anyone's really), but I included the tweet to provide context and show that there are other sources that support what you posted.

Assuming the trade goes through, what can you tell us about Nassir Little?

nassir little (small forward) will be 23 yo in a week, hes injury prone (unfortunately), but hes a solid player that can improve further and have a long career in the nba if he can stay healthy, which i really hope he can, cause hes a really nice, humble guy

he plays with a lot of energy and hustle on both ends of the floor, hes a lob threat and can score in transition, loves to drive to the basket and finish with the dunk and so far this season, hes shooting 41.3% on 2.4 3-pointers per game, which is career best

id like to keep nassir, hes on a cheap contract and is a true team guy, youre never gonna see him demand touches or complain about anything, he will do his job to the best of his ability and you simply like players like that

Sounds like we're replacing 6'9 Vanderbilt with a 6'5 version of Vanderbilt. On the other hand, Little is a year younger and he's probably on a smaller contract than what Vanderbilt will command. We'll see what happens, thanks for the info.
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Re: 2023 Trade Rumors 

Post#139 » by SoCalJazzFan » Sat Feb 4, 2023 8:32 pm

I think that all trades that might have been discussed or even making traction have been put on hold until this Kyrie situation plays out. The Jazz are the perfect team to facilitate a deal and they would need to include several of their higher paid players to do it (e.g. Conley, Beasely, Clarkson).
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Post#140 » by Cappy_Smurf » Mon Feb 6, 2023 2:54 am

I still don't believe Utah will take a step back just to pick up 2nd round picks or to dump salary.

Having said that, I do believe someone will cough up a 1st round pick (at least) in order to acquire several Jazz players.

It will be interesting to see what happens. With the west as open as it is right now, it will be a disappointment to the players to make a move that's a step backward. If there's a decent 1st on the table, I'd expect DA to have a hard time turning it down.
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