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Re: [Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG 

Post#1201 » by Reeko » Fri Feb 3, 2023 8:53 pm

_MidNight_ wrote:
Reeko wrote:- This Pelicans media guy is saying that he thinks the Pelicans would be willing to give up JV, Jaxson Hayes and Devonte Graham.
- Says he would be surprised if they were willing to move any of Daniels, Murphy, and to a slightly lesser extent Herbert Jones.
- Also said that he can't envision them wanting to send out 3 of their best 1st round picks.


Mans say, give me OG for these depreciating assets :lol:

That Laker pick takes a MASSIVE hit if Kyrie makes his way to the Lakers as well.

Right? Like alright, I guess he won't be playing in New Orleans then.
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Re: [Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG 

Post#1202 » by PoundTown » Fri Feb 3, 2023 8:57 pm

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Big fan of both Trey Murphy and Dyson Daniels. Herb Jones as well!

Raps swing a deal with 2 of those guys plus the pick...yeah, I ain't mad.


If Masai can pull off Daniels, Murphy and the Lakers pick for OG he'll forever be known as the GOAT around these parts.


LOL I would start laughing so hard if he did.

The reality that I think it's gonna be an either/or scenario regarding Daniels and Murphy if the rumors about NO's interest in OG are true. They'll probably only give up 1 of them and throw in a 1st. If Masai somehow gets both of them even without a pick included, that is still highway robbery.


I'd do it straight up for those two, and try and acquire a pick in a FVV trade. Getting two promising young players on rookie salaries who we can retain for a while is a good play. If it's just choosing between Sharpe or Dyson though, I might go with Sharpe. I do like them both, just like the upside of Sharpe's offence. I could see him reaching similar levels offensively as say Zach Lavine, or maybe even a Jalen Brown. That's a dude that can move the needle a little bit, where as Dyson might be destined to be a strong all around role player type. His O has a long way to go, even if he has some nice IQ and a promising jumper.
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Re: [Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG 

Post#1203 » by aminiaturebuddha » Fri Feb 3, 2023 8:58 pm

Reeko wrote:- This Pelicans media guy is saying that he thinks the Pelicans would be willing to give up JV, Jaxson Hayes and Devonte Graham.

- Says he would be surprised if they were willing to move any of Daniels, Murphy, and to a slightly lesser extent Herbert Jones.

- Also said that he can't envision them wanting to send out 3 of their best 1st round picks.



If New Orleans isn't willing to move either Daniels or Murphy I'm not sure I see them as a viable trade partner. The Raps will almost certainly want a promising young player back, and Hayes has basically stagnated as a backup big.

Including Graham in a deal is the Raptors taking back a bad salary, so really it would be JV and Hayes for OG? We all love JV, but I'm not sure that anyone believes that he moves the needle for the team to make them a contender now or in the future. And Hayes is redundant if JV is coming back when we'd also still be looking for minutes for developing bigs in Precious and Koloko.

Don't think anyone should be expecting 3 picks for OG. But Daniels or Murphy and 1 pick might be about right. But if NO really isn't going to entertain those options, I would expect the Raps would just talk to other teams.

Edit: Just saw your response to another poster above. You summed it up much faster than I did! Lol
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Re: [Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG 

Post#1204 » by Brinbe » Fri Feb 3, 2023 8:58 pm

Reeko wrote:- This Pelicans media guy is saying that he thinks the Pelicans would be willing to give up JV, Jaxson Hayes and Devonte Graham.

- Says he would be surprised if they were willing to move any of Daniels, Murphy, and to a slightly lesser extent Herbert Jones.

- Also said that he can't envision them wanting to send out 3 of their best 1st round picks.


everyone wants to give up nothing to get something. this is why you play the waiting game like the FO is doing right now. when crunchhtime hits and the desperation sets in, things will change.

lord knows masai already has experience in this dealing with the knicks and melo. pels have been floundering lately too with no zion, they must know a trade is happening over there as well.
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Re: [Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG 

Post#1205 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Fri Feb 3, 2023 9:09 pm

Reeko wrote:- This Pelicans media guy is saying that he thinks the Pelicans would be willing to give up JV, Jaxson Hayes and Devonte Graham.

- Says he would be surprised if they were willing to move any of Daniels, Murphy, and to a slightly lesser extent Herbert Jones.

- Also said that he can't envision them wanting to send out 3 of their best 1st round picks.



If they're not willing to move Daniels or Murphy then they're not getting OG. End of discussion.
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Post#1206 » by OakleyDokely » Fri Feb 3, 2023 9:10 pm

Reeko wrote:- This Pelicans media guy is saying that he thinks the Pelicans would be willing to give up JV, Jaxson Hayes and Devonte Graham.

- Says he would be surprised if they were willing to move any of Daniels, Murphy, and to a slightly lesser extent Herbert Jones.

- Also said that he can't envision them wanting to send out 3 of their best 1st round picks.



That's a nice package for Thad, Porter and Birch.
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Post#1207 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Fri Feb 3, 2023 9:13 pm

Wow this guy is talking about Naji Marshall as if he's a good player and the Raps would be lucky if NO includes him in a trade LOL gtfo
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Re: [Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG 

Post#1208 » by Harcore Fenton Mun » Fri Feb 3, 2023 9:14 pm

That Warriors pick that Memphis has is sneaky good value. I'm surprised people aren't after it more. It could convey to a first round unprotected as the Warriors start to re-build.
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Re: [Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG 

Post#1209 » by KL78192020 » Fri Feb 3, 2023 9:19 pm

Brinbe wrote:
Reeko wrote:- This Pelicans media guy is saying that he thinks the Pelicans would be willing to give up JV, Jaxson Hayes and Devonte Graham.

- Says he would be surprised if they were willing to move any of Daniels, Murphy, and to a slightly lesser extent Herbert Jones.

- Also said that he can't envision them wanting to send out 3 of their best 1st round picks.


everyone wants to give up nothing to get something. this is why you play the waiting game like the FO is doing right now. when crunchhtime hits and the desperation sets in, things will change.

lord knows masai already has experience in this dealing with the knicks and melo. pels have been floundering lately too with no zion, they must know a trade is happening over there as well.


I think part of his reasoning was the Pels are cheap and don't want to pay the tax. OG will be expensive, Daniels, Murphy are cheap for them. Makes sense for them.
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Re: [Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG 

Post#1210 » by Reeko » Fri Feb 3, 2023 9:22 pm

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Brinbe wrote:
Reeko wrote:- This Pelicans media guy is saying that he thinks the Pelicans would be willing to give up JV, Jaxson Hayes and Devonte Graham.

- Says he would be surprised if they were willing to move any of Daniels, Murphy, and to a slightly lesser extent Herbert Jones.

- Also said that he can't envision them wanting to send out 3 of their best 1st round picks.


everyone wants to give up nothing to get something. this is why you play the waiting game like the FO is doing right now. when crunchhtime hits and the desperation sets in, things will change.

lord knows masai already has experience in this dealing with the knicks and melo. pels have been floundering lately too with no zion, they must know a trade is happening over there as well.


I think part of his reasoning was the Pels are cheap and don't want to pay the tax. OG will be expensive, Daniels, Murphy are cheap for them. Makes sense for them.

Yeah, the logic is sound. They have 3 guys in Zion, BI and CJ that are set to make big money so the FO is going to highly value cheap young talent that can actually contribute to winning basketball. He also pointed out that the organization has never been willing to spend into the luxury tax.
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Re: [Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG 

Post#1211 » by Ado05 » Fri Feb 3, 2023 9:25 pm

Memphis seems like the most likely destination. The Suns are probably 2nd right now. Maybe the Warriors emerge as a darkhorse candidate.
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Re: [Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG 

Post#1212 » by HumbleRen » Fri Feb 3, 2023 9:25 pm

OG ain't going anywhere.
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Re: [Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG 

Post#1213 » by Madvillainy2004 » Fri Feb 3, 2023 10:40 pm

If the pels want OG for Jaxson Hayes + Graham and JV they can kick rocks lol
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Re: [Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG 

Post#1214 » by Madvillainy2004 » Fri Feb 3, 2023 10:44 pm

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Reeko wrote:- This Pelicans media guy is saying that he thinks the Pelicans would be willing to give up JV, Jaxson Hayes and Devonte Graham.

- Says he would be surprised if they were willing to move any of Daniels, Murphy, and to a slightly lesser extent Herbert Jones.

- Also said that he can't envision them wanting to send out 3 of their best 1st round picks.



That's a nice package for Thad, Porter and Birch.


Yeah like it's cool of the Pels don't wanna trade Trey, Herbert or Daniel's but then ok there's no discussion lmao
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Re: [Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG 

Post#1215 » by Kingsway_fan » Sat Feb 4, 2023 3:47 am

HumbleRen wrote:OG ain't going anywhere.



No rush to trade og... we can re evaluate next year... fk their promoters/agents
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Re: [Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG 

Post#1216 » by sidsid » Sat Feb 4, 2023 2:59 pm

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Brinbe wrote:everyone wants to give up nothing to get something. this is why you play the waiting game like the FO is doing right now. when crunchhtime hits and the desperation sets in, things will change.

lord knows masai already has experience in this dealing with the knicks and melo. pels have been floundering lately too with no zion, they must know a trade is happening over there as well.


I think part of his reasoning was the Pels are cheap and don't want to pay the tax. OG will be expensive, Daniels, Murphy are cheap for them. Makes sense for them.

Yeah, the logic is sound. They have 3 guys in Zion, BI and CJ that are set to make big money so the FO is going to highly value cheap young talent that can actually contribute to winning basketball. He also pointed out that the organization has never been willing to spend into the luxury tax.


The likely salary ballast coming back is Graham's, long, bad deal. If it's Daniels coming along with picks, that's even term money for next 3 years coming out.

CJ has 2 years left after this, where he'll be 35 at the end of his contract.

OG will likely double his salary in that 3rd year adding an extra 15+ mil (again, all term is the same if they keep Graham/Daniels). After that year, CJ is either done, or taking a big paycut.

The long term salary looks good for them.
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Re: [Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG 

Post#1217 » by DelAbbot » Sat Feb 4, 2023 3:24 pm

Wasn't it yesterday morning we were hearing about bidding wars for OG?

Now rumors about teams moving onto targeting Vanderbilt instead OG. The OG market sure crashed quickly and sharply with KD potentially in play in the summer.
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Post#1218 » by mintsa » Sat Feb 4, 2023 3:27 pm

Thursday 3:01 pm only man getting moved is Flynn.
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Post#1219 » by Zeno » Sat Feb 4, 2023 3:29 pm

We need to trade Fred, Pascal, Birch, Thad, Malachi and Juancho in that order of urgency.
When will we just change the name of 25 of the 30 teams to the Washington Generals?

Please advise….

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Re: [Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG 

Post#1220 » by canz55 » Sat Feb 4, 2023 3:46 pm

I'm going to take a lot of pleasure in watching many of you have a meltdown after Thursday when nothing happens.

It's nothing personal, I'm just your average sadist.

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