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AkelaLoneWolf wrote:i could see westbrook and other waived vets coming here post trade deadline.
16 games until trade deadline including last night vs Charlotte. I guessed our record. I will update after each game.
(17-23)
Jan 10 - Charlotte - W (18-23)
Jan 12 - Charlotte - W (19-23)
Jan 14 - Atlanta - W .... Loss (19-24)
Jan 16 - @ NY - L .... Win (20-24)
Jan 17 - @ Milwaukee - L (20-25)
Jan 19 - @ Minnesota - L (20-26)
Jan 21 - Boston - L (20-27)
Jan 22 - NY - W (21-27)
Jan 25 - @ Sacramento - L ... Win (22-27)
Jan 27 - @ G.S. - L (22-28)
Jan 28 - @ Portland - L …. Win (23-28)
Jan 30 - @ Phoenix - L (23-29)
Feb 1 - @ Utah - W .... Loss (23-30)
Feb 3 - @ Houston - W (24-30)
Feb 5 - @ Memphis - L
Feb 8 - San Antonio - W
Feb 9 = Trade Deadline.
7-9 record as per above (24-32). But lets say we get 2 extra wins and go 9-7 instead, we would be (26-30).
To put things in perspective on Feb 9 of last year (deadline was Feb 10), our record was 30-23.
Kingsway_fan wrote:AkelaLoneWolf wrote:i could see westbrook and other waived vets coming here post trade deadline.
Green font.
Has anyone of any consequence ever signed with Raptors in this manner?
They all gravitate to the sunny warm places...
For Raptors, it has always been overpay to keep, overpay to attract...
Kingsway_fan wrote:AkelaLoneWolf wrote:i could see westbrook and other waived vets coming here post trade deadline.
Green font.
Has anyone of any consequence ever signed with Raptors in this manner?
They all gravitate to the sunny warm places...
For Raptors, it has always been overpay to keep, overpay to attract...
WaltFrazier wrote:Bamba in a fight with Austin Rivers tonight . Both ejected along with Suggs. Will we still make the FVV for Bamba and Suggs trade?
Raptors Realtor wrote:AkelaLoneWolf wrote:Raptors Realtor wrote:
Well we know Westbrook isn't going to contribute to winning... It's an all-in move that would set this team back for years because we'd conceivably have to trade picks to help fill out/improve the roster... I just don't think it's a risk that Masai would deem worth taking, at least I hope not lol.
there is no player we have a reasonable chance of getting thru draft/trade who would be better than durant.
this is precisely the risk masai took in trading derozan; he knew the team wasnt going anywhere. we're in the same situation now. masai has a better view of the situation than we do; i trust him to do the right thing. as it is, i'm ok with us moving in either direction.
Yes, but Kawhi was 28 then, and was acquired in the offseason, so the team had an opportunity to play together & work out the kinks. We also had way more depth/trade pieces to make moves & fill out the bench, with guys like Ibaka, OG, FVV, Powell, Wright, etc. There was also no risk dealing Demar because he was a couple years older then Kawhi and had a history of not succeeding in the playoffs here. Poetl was also dispensable because we had a more experienced JV (later dealt for Gasol). Durant is 34, we're unlikely to make the playoffs this season, but in trying we likely lessen our 1st rounder this year, and we have less assets/depth to contend or trade for now pieces to contend then we did in 19-20... To me, the risk is too high to gamble.
For over a month, sources told Yahoo Sports, the Toronto Raptors have told rival teams they will wait until the final hours before deciding whether to become buyers or sellers in this trade market.
Brinbe wrote:lord, really hope this isn't true...
https://sports.yahoo.com/kyrie-irving-trade-demand-offers-league-rivals-hope-that-kevin-durant-could-become-available-233208821.htmlFor over a month, sources told Yahoo Sports, the Toronto Raptors have told rival teams they will wait until the final hours before deciding whether to become buyers or sellers in this trade market.
Brinbe wrote:lord, really hope this isn't true...
https://sports.yahoo.com/kyrie-irving-trade-demand-offers-league-rivals-hope-that-kevin-durant-could-become-available-233208821.htmlFor over a month, sources told Yahoo Sports, the Toronto Raptors have told rival teams they will wait until the final hours before deciding whether to become buyers or sellers in this trade market.
AkelaLoneWolf wrote:Raptors Realtor wrote:AkelaLoneWolf wrote:there is no player we have a reasonable chance of getting thru draft/trade who would be better than durant.
this is precisely the risk masai took in trading derozan; he knew the team wasnt going anywhere. we're in the same situation now. masai has a better view of the situation than we do; i trust him to do the right thing. as it is, i'm ok with us moving in either direction.
Yes, but Kawhi was 28 then, and was acquired in the offseason, so the team had an opportunity to play together & work out the kinks. We also had way more depth/trade pieces to make moves & fill out the bench, with guys like Ibaka, OG, FVV, Powell, Wright, etc. There was also no risk dealing Demar because he was a couple years older then Kawhi and had a history of not succeeding in the playoffs here. Poetl was also dispensable because we had a more experienced JV (later dealt for Gasol). Durant is 34, we're unlikely to make the playoffs this season, but in trying we likely lessen our 1st rounder this year, and we have less assets/depth to contend or trade for now pieces to contend then we did in 19-20... To me, the risk is too high to gamble.
you're right in that this would be a very risky move. kawhi was a huge injury/flight risk even at 28.
ibaka,fvv was huge in the playoff run. OG was out with appendicitis. powell and wright didn't really make significant contributions.
the starting lineup for 2018-2019 was lowry, green, gasol and siakam. now it would be fvv(or trent), siakam, barnes, ?precious?
lowry was better than fvv is now; i would consider barnes equivalent to gasol offensively although defensively gasol was indispensable against giannis and embiid. siakam is better now than he was before and in the playoffs, precious is probably equivalent to green.
that starting lineup was a little bit better than ours now, but the east is overall weaker than it was before as well.
don't worry about our FRP; we'll have to give that up in any durant trade.
i agree: bench is a problem but all you need are 8 players. on the bench:one guard, forward and one big man. we have boucher but will need that forward and guard.
Raptors Realtor wrote:AkelaLoneWolf wrote:Raptors Realtor wrote:
Yes, but Kawhi was 28 then, and was acquired in the offseason, so the team had an opportunity to play together & work out the kinks. We also had way more depth/trade pieces to make moves & fill out the bench, with guys like Ibaka, OG, FVV, Powell, Wright, etc. There was also no risk dealing Demar because he was a couple years older then Kawhi and had a history of not succeeding in the playoffs here. Poetl was also dispensable because we had a more experienced JV (later dealt for Gasol). Durant is 34, we're unlikely to make the playoffs this season, but in trying we likely lessen our 1st rounder this year, and we have less assets/depth to contend or trade for now pieces to contend then we did in 19-20... To me, the risk is too high to gamble.
you're right in that this would be a very risky move. kawhi was a huge injury/flight risk even at 28.
ibaka,fvv was huge in the playoff run. OG was out with appendicitis. powell and wright didn't really make significant contributions.
the starting lineup for 2018-2019 was lowry, green, gasol and siakam. now it would be fvv(or trent), siakam, barnes, ?precious?
lowry was better than fvv is now; i would consider barnes equivalent to gasol offensively although defensively gasol was indispensable against giannis and embiid. siakam is better now than he was before and in the playoffs, precious is probably equivalent to green.
that starting lineup was a little bit better than ours now, but the east is overall weaker than it was before as well.
don't worry about our FRP; we'll have to give that up in any durant trade.
i agree: bench is a problem but all you need are 8 players. on the bench:one guard, forward and one big man. we have boucher but will need that forward and guard.
The culmination of a likely lottery pick, in addition to dealing 25 year old OG & 23 year old Trent would definitely be enough to scare me off from dealing for 34 year old Durant. Not to mention, we'd be hard pressed to make the playoffs this season, and just don't think we'd be left with the assets, depth & salary to compete against the cream of the crop... To me, it's an easy pass, would much rather rebuild/retool.
Raptors Realtor wrote:AkelaLoneWolf wrote:Raptors Realtor wrote:
Yes, but Kawhi was 28 then, and was acquired in the offseason, so the team had an opportunity to play together & work out the kinks. We also had way more depth/trade pieces to make moves & fill out the bench, with guys like Ibaka, OG, FVV, Powell, Wright, etc. There was also no risk dealing Demar because he was a couple years older then Kawhi and had a history of not succeeding in the playoffs here. Poetl was also dispensable because we had a more experienced JV (later dealt for Gasol). Durant is 34, we're unlikely to make the playoffs this season, but in trying we likely lessen our 1st rounder this year, and we have less assets/depth to contend or trade for now pieces to contend then we did in 19-20... To me, the risk is too high to gamble.
you're right in that this would be a very risky move. kawhi was a huge injury/flight risk even at 28.
ibaka,fvv was huge in the playoff run. OG was out with appendicitis. powell and wright didn't really make significant contributions.
the starting lineup for 2018-2019 was lowry, green, gasol and siakam. now it would be fvv(or trent), siakam, barnes, ?precious?
lowry was better than fvv is now; i would consider barnes equivalent to gasol offensively although defensively gasol was indispensable against giannis and embiid. siakam is better now than he was before and in the playoffs, precious is probably equivalent to green.
that starting lineup was a little bit better than ours now, but the east is overall weaker than it was before as well.
don't worry about our FRP; we'll have to give that up in any durant trade.
i agree: bench is a problem but all you need are 8 players. on the bench:one guard, forward and one big man. we have boucher but will need that forward and guard.
The culmination of a likely lottery pick, in addition to dealing 25 year old OG & 23 year old Trent would definitely be enough to scare me off from dealing for 34 year old Durant. Not to mention, we'd be hard pressed to make the playoffs this season, and just don't think we'd be left with the assets, depth & salary to compete against the cream of the crop... To me, it's an easy pass, would much rather rebuild/retool.
ForeverTFC wrote:Has the Windhorst pod been discussed here today? They just said "if the Orlando noise is real, anyone trading for FVV will have to be comfortable paying near max to keep him."
Orlando really about to go near max on FVV??
ForeverTFC wrote:Has the Windhorst pod been discussed here today? They just said "if the Orlando noise is real, anyone trading for FVV will have to be comfortable paying near max to keep him."
Orlando really about to go near max on FVV??
T-d0t wrote:Brinbe wrote:lord, really hope this isn't true...
https://sports.yahoo.com/kyrie-irving-trade-demand-offers-league-rivals-hope-that-kevin-durant-could-become-available-233208821.htmlFor over a month, sources told Yahoo Sports, the Toronto Raptors have told rival teams they will wait until the final hours before deciding whether to become buyers or sellers in this trade market.
Raptors trolling these sources