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Re: We finna git Kyrie-d 

Post#241 » by Slava » Thu Aug 4, 2022 9:21 pm

JKiddy wrote:I appreciate all of your input here. One thing you guys need to understand is that the Nets are not going to trade Curry or Harris as a throw in. The Nets need shooters very badly. They waited a year to get Harris back. Both Seth and Joe are Top 5 shooters in the league. It is tough to get a good shooter these days.

Let's see where this meeting goes this week. It will be up to our FO and Owner to decide what our team will look like next year. You are correct in that we will not take Westbrook. It will likely take you guys trading a first or two to get him on someone else's books because he is past his prime and is not listening to anyone about being a team player (ala Iverson in his last few seasons). It sucks because he was a great player and could extend his career and earning potential if he just accepted a lesser role for the next season or two.


I cannot see them trading Curry but I think there are serious questions on Harris’s health status, add to the fact that he’s paid more than handsomely for being one dimensional, there’s a good chance he’s added as salary ballast in either the Durant or Irving deals.
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Re: We finna git Kyrie-d 

Post#242 » by TylersLakers » Thu Aug 4, 2022 10:43 pm

JKiddy wrote:I appreciate all of your input here. One thing you guys need to understand is that the Nets are not going to trade Curry or Harris as a throw in. The Nets need shooters very badly. They waited a year to get Harris back. Both Seth and Joe are Top 5 shooters in the league. It is tough to get a good shooter these days.

Let's see where this meeting goes this week. It will be up to our FO and Owner to decide what our team will look like next year. You are correct in that we will not take Westbrook. It will likely take you guys trading a first or two to get him on someone else's books because he is past his prime and is not listening to anyone about being a team player (ala Iverson in his last few seasons). It sucks because he was a great player and could extend his career and earning potential if he just accepted a lesser role for the next season or two.


Is this meeting real or just some sort of fake Twitter account thing?
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Post#243 » by JKiddy » Fri Aug 5, 2022 1:45 pm

I think it already happened. It seems like Tsai's family is cool with both KD and Kyrie at the moment. I think they are all on the same page but it would be childish to make a press conference saying "we are now all friends and colleagues working together again" when they should have always been that.

It seems like BK will run it back.
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Post#244 » by DanishLakerFan » Tue Aug 9, 2022 4:22 pm

I get that Kyrie would be the guy who could provide the most upside, but he's such a headcase.
Keep it simple and just go with Buddy and Myles. The see what THT can fetch.
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Post#245 » by LAKESHOW » Sat Feb 4, 2023 2:50 am

Its Only a matter of Time now...
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Post#246 » by loveshaq786 » Sat Feb 4, 2023 2:58 am

LAKESHOW wrote:Its Only a matter of Time now...


why the eff would nets want ayton I'd they got claxton?

I would consider... AD, beverly, Juan, jones .... Kyrie, claxton, Warren and seth
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Post#247 » by MAMBAEMD » Sat Feb 4, 2023 3:59 am

Please keep Kyrie away from the Lakeshow.

Nothing good will come out of him being on the team.
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Post#248 » by DanishLakerFan » Sat Feb 4, 2023 5:04 am

lakerRD wrote:Please keep Kyrie away from the Lakeshow.

Nothing good will come out of him being on the team.


Well i kinda agree and literally none of the teams he's played on are happy about their Kyrie-experience. Cavs maybe to a degree since they won a title but that was Lebron winning a title, not Kyrie. And it ended badly.

That said, he's been absolutely fantastic this season and would raise the ceiling a hell of a lot. But it comes with a major risk. The guy might get angry and sign somewhere else in the summer or demand (and get) the full max and then start denying the holocaust the day after and get himself thrown out of the league.

But say they did Kyrie and Harris for Westy, Lonnie and the two picks, we'd have a really good and relatively deep team:

Kyrie - Beverley - Rui - Lebron - AD
Schroeder - Reaves - Harris - Brown Jr. - Bryant
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Post#249 » by MAMBAEMD » Sat Feb 4, 2023 8:43 am

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lakerRD wrote:Please keep Kyrie away from the Lakeshow.

Nothing good will come out of him being on the team.


Well i kinda agree and literally none of the teams he's played on are happy about their Kyrie-experience. Cavs maybe to a degree since they won a title but that was Lebron winning a title, not Kyrie. And it ended badly.

That said, he's been absolutely fantastic this season and would raise the ceiling a hell of a lot. But it comes with a major risk. The guy might get angry and sign somewhere else in the summer or demand (and get) the full max and then start denying the holocaust the day after and get himself thrown out of the league.

But say they did Kyrie and Harris for Westy, Lonnie and the two picks, we'd have a really good and relatively deep team:

Kyrie - Beverley - Rui - Lebron - AD
Schroeder - Reaves - Harris - Brown Jr. - Bryant


He has been a good offensive players this year when he hasn’t been suspended .
There is no doubt about his talent. He’s a gifted scorer.

The headache is just not worth it though. It’s like having a sexy and gorgeous girlfriend with herpes.

I’d never give up two firsts for him either. He could easily walk at the end of the year.

Would you want to give up two potentially valuable firsts for someone so unpredictable?

There’s something very off with this dude
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Post#250 » by DanishLakerFan » Sat Feb 4, 2023 9:03 am

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DanishLakerFan wrote:
lakerRD wrote:Please keep Kyrie away from the Lakeshow.

Nothing good will come out of him being on the team.


Well i kinda agree and literally none of the teams he's played on are happy about their Kyrie-experience. Cavs maybe to a degree since they won a title but that was Lebron winning a title, not Kyrie. And it ended badly.

That said, he's been absolutely fantastic this season and would raise the ceiling a hell of a lot. But it comes with a major risk. The guy might get angry and sign somewhere else in the summer or demand (and get) the full max and then start denying the holocaust the day after and get himself thrown out of the league.

But say they did Kyrie and Harris for Westy, Lonnie and the two picks, we'd have a really good and relatively deep team:

Kyrie - Beverley - Rui - Lebron - AD
Schroeder - Reaves - Harris - Brown Jr. - Bryant


He has been a good offensive players this year when he hasn’t been suspended .
There is no doubt about his talent. He’s a gifted scorer.

The headache is just not worth it though. It’s like having a sexy and gorgeous girlfriend with herpes.

I’d never give up two firsts for him either. He could easily walk at the end of the year.

Would you want to give up two potentially valuable firsts for someone so unpredictable?

There’s something very off with this dude


The guy is a head case for sure, but i think AD-Lebron-Kyrie can compete with anyone and i would prefer they go all-in right now considering how good both Lebron and AD are playing. Also, i dont really trust the front office to make the right move tbh. They may give up those picks for someone like Zach Lavine.
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Re: We finna get Kyrie-d 

Post#251 » by Pointgod » Sat Feb 4, 2023 4:42 pm

DanishLakerFan wrote:
lakerRD wrote:Please keep Kyrie away from the Lakeshow.

Nothing good will come out of him being on the team.


Well i kinda agree and literally none of the teams he's played on are happy about their Kyrie-experience. Cavs maybe to a degree since they won a title but that was Lebron winning a title, not Kyrie. And it ended badly.

That said, he's been absolutely fantastic this season and would raise the ceiling a hell of a lot. But it comes with a major risk. The guy might get angry and sign somewhere else in the summer or demand (and get) the full max and then start denying the holocaust the day after and get himself thrown out of the league.

But say they did Kyrie and Harris for Westy, Lonnie and the two picks, we'd have a really good and relatively deep team:

Kyrie - Beverley - Rui - Lebron - AD
Schroeder - Reaves - Harris - Brown Jr. - Bryant


We are not trading two picks for Kyrie. That’s complete insanity. Two picks is only for a legit superstar/allstar player like Lavine even though he comes with some issues.
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Post#252 » by DanishLakerFan » Sat Feb 4, 2023 5:13 pm

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DanishLakerFan wrote:
lakerRD wrote:Please keep Kyrie away from the Lakeshow.

Nothing good will come out of him being on the team.


Well i kinda agree and literally none of the teams he's played on are happy about their Kyrie-experience. Cavs maybe to a degree since they won a title but that was Lebron winning a title, not Kyrie. And it ended badly.

That said, he's been absolutely fantastic this season and would raise the ceiling a hell of a lot. But it comes with a major risk. The guy might get angry and sign somewhere else in the summer or demand (and get) the full max and then start denying the holocaust the day after and get himself thrown out of the league.

But say they did Kyrie and Harris for Westy, Lonnie and the two picks, we'd have a really good and relatively deep team:

Kyrie - Beverley - Rui - Lebron - AD
Schroeder - Reaves - Harris - Brown Jr. - Bryant


We are not trading two picks for Kyrie. That’s complete insanity. Two picks is only for a legit superstar/allstar player like Lavine even though he comes with some issues.


LaVine is the most overrated player in the whole league and one of the most toxic contracts. Rich man's Tyler Herro who never has won a damn thing.
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Post#253 » by bb22 » Sat Feb 4, 2023 5:38 pm

1) i think this was Kyrie’s plan all along.
2) I think you gotta throw whatever Nets want their way for Kyrie. It’s going to be a tough rebuild regardless of those 2 future first rounders. Adding a dude like Kyrie that knows how to play with Lebron, and Joe Harris, is as good as it gets.
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Post#254 » by loveshaq786 » Sat Feb 4, 2023 6:36 pm

bb22 wrote:1) i think this was Kyrie’s plan all along.
2) I think you gotta throw whatever Nets want their way for Kyrie. It’s going to be a tough rebuild regardless of those 2 future first rounders. Adding a dude like Kyrie that knows how to play with Lebron, and Joe Harris, is as good as it gets.


I completely disagree. Kyrie just proved to the nets that he will not re-sign with them, so they better trade him before they get nothing for him. Lakers got the assurance they needed, even if they don't get him now. they just need to create a good amount of space to be able to sign him out right in the off-season. this is huge!

The nets were trying to create value that they were going to be able to resign him, which made the Lakers divert their attention towards absorbing salary with other teams.

we should not throw the farm at them. there are plenty of rumors out there right now that we are giving pics up, there's also another rumor that we're giving their picks up and absorbing Simmons as well

The only reason we should agree to something like that, if a team like Utah or Toronto is willing to take on Simmons.

so the trade supposedly looks like... Westbrook, Walker, jones, Beverly, and 2 first rounders... for Kyrie and Simmons

I would not do this deal if we are not able to flip Simmons right away, for grent+Thaddeus or Clarkson+Beasley
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Post#255 » by Danny Darko » Sat Feb 4, 2023 7:41 pm

Don't want Russ, don't want Kyrie... please surprise us and pull a random helpful trade:

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Post#256 » by TylersLakers » Sat Feb 4, 2023 8:45 pm

Danny Darko wrote:Don't want Russ, don't want Kyrie... please surprise us and pull a random helpful trade:

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Seriously. Unless we can get Kyrie for Russ and a protected pick, please pursue other options. There's better ones out there with people who actually care about playing basketball.

- Beasley, Vanderbilt, Conley
- Trent and Freddy V
- Rozier, Hayward, PJ Washington
- Bogdanovic, Burks, Noel
- Chicago (Caruso single deal, DeMar/Vuc Westbrook deal)

If we give up 2 1st round picks for Kyrie and Joe Harris, I'll laugh and shake my head (yet again) at how bad Rob Pelinka is.
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Post#257 » by JKiddy » Sat Feb 4, 2023 10:22 pm

Unless the Nets are literally blowing up the entire team they are not taking back Russ (for many obvious reasons).

Would they re-route Russ to a 3rd team? That might happen.

But, do not think it will be LAL and BK alone in this deal (if it even happens).

Russ is possibly getting traded.

Kyrie might get traded.

They don't want anyone to be injured just in case when it is this close to a deadline. They might be keeping all options open.
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Post#258 » by loveshaq786 » Sat Feb 4, 2023 11:07 pm

JKiddy wrote:Unless the Nets are literally blowing up the entire team they are not taking back Russ (for many obvious reasons).

Would they re-route Russ to a 3rd team? That might happen.

But, do not think it will be LAL and BK alone in this deal (if it even happens).

Russ is possibly getting traded.

Kyrie might get traded.

They don't want anyone to be injured just in case when it is this close to a deadline. They might be keeping all options open.


my hope is: Westbrook, jones, Juan and a UNPROTECTED first.... or two heavily protected firsts for: Kyrie, Warren, and seth
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Post#259 » by srhcan » Sun Feb 5, 2023 12:03 am

Pointgod wrote:
DanishLakerFan wrote:
lakerRD wrote:Please keep Kyrie away from the Lakeshow.

Nothing good will come out of him being on the team.


Well i kinda agree and literally none of the teams he's played on are happy about their Kyrie-experience. Cavs maybe to a degree since they won a title but that was Lebron winning a title, not Kyrie. And it ended badly.

That said, he's been absolutely fantastic this season and would raise the ceiling a hell of a lot. But it comes with a major risk. The guy might get angry and sign somewhere else in the summer or demand (and get) the full max and then start denying the holocaust the day after and get himself thrown out of the league.

But say they did Kyrie and Harris for Westy, Lonnie and the two picks, we'd have a really good and relatively deep team:

Kyrie - Beverley - Rui - Lebron - AD
Schroeder - Reaves - Harris - Brown Jr. - Bryant


We are not trading two picks for Kyrie. That’s complete insanity. Two picks is only for a legit superstar/allstar player like Lavine even though he comes with some issues.

So Lavine is an allstar but Kyrie is not? :lol:
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Post#260 » by MAMBAEMD » Sun Feb 5, 2023 7:14 pm

I think it would be absolute insanity and a very poor business and basketball decision to trade for a head case albeit talented basketball player who’s contract runs out in about 30 games anyway, if that deal involves giving up 2 first round picks and valuable assets such as our young guys like Reaves or Christie or Gabriel.

I honestly would hesitate even if it was just Russ for a Kyrie . Russ is a negative but at least he’s not a cancer.
And even if Harris or Seth are part of the deal.

There are other deals out there.
We are 25-29. A deal for Kyrie does not move the dial enough to give up so much and in fact could blow up in our face if/when he behaves the way he’s been behaving this season.
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