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Re: Trade Thread 2023, con't – Thurs, Feb 9, 3:00PM, EST 

Post#201 » by Parliament10 » Sat Feb 4, 2023 6:47 pm

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We'd have to Trade Gallinari for that; along with Pritchard & Jackson.
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Re: Trade Thread 2023, con't – Thurs, Feb 9, 3:00PM, EST 

Post#202 » by Celts17Pride » Sat Feb 4, 2023 6:54 pm

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I'm tired of y'all (me) bringing up Bane! It's a wound that won't close and you're poking at it with a metal pole. :cry: :banghead: :cry:

Agree completely! Instead let’s talk about taking Olynyk instead of Giannis :wink:
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Re: Trade Thread 2023, con't – Thurs, Feb 9, 3:00PM, EST 

Post#203 » by Celts17Pride » Sat Feb 4, 2023 6:59 pm

Celtics RealGM poster’s expectations of Danilo Gallinari are 100x greater than what Gallinari is actually capable of producing.

Brad Stevens would be extremely fortunate to pick up a useful player using Gallo’s contract and another team taking an issue away from the Celtics
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Re: Trade Thread 2023, con't – Thurs, Feb 9, 3:00PM, EST 

Post#205 » by Hal14 » Sat Feb 4, 2023 7:07 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:Celtics RealGM poster’s expectations of Danilo Gallinari are 100x greater than what Gallinari is actually capable of producing.

Brad Stevens would be extremely fortunate to pick up a useful player using Gallo’s contract and another team taking an issue away from the Celtics

Why not pick up a useful player, without having to move Gallo? That way, you keep Gallo for next season - and the slight chance that he returns this season.

Vanderbilt fits into the Schroder TPE. Give the Jazz, a pick and/or Pritchard. Whatever, but giving up Gallo isn't necessary to get it done..
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Re: Trade Thread 2023, con't – Thurs, Feb 9, 3:00PM, EST 

Post#206 » by bisme37 » Sat Feb 4, 2023 7:07 pm

Honestly maybe we just need a handful of hungry G League dudes to come in and compete when our usually-good players decide to half-ass it.
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Post#207 » by Celts17Pride » Sat Feb 4, 2023 7:09 pm

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Re: Trade Thread 2023, con't – Thurs, Feb 9, 3:00PM, EST 

Post#208 » by Celts17Pride » Sat Feb 4, 2023 7:12 pm

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Celts17Pride wrote:Celtics RealGM poster’s expectations of Danilo Gallinari are 100x greater than what Gallinari is actually capable of producing.

Brad Stevens would be extremely fortunate to pick up a useful player using Gallo’s contract and another team taking an issue away from the Celtics

Why not pick up a useful player, without having to move Gallo? That way, you keep Gallo for next season - and the slight chance that he returns this season.

Vanderbilt fits into the Schroder TPE. Give the Jazz, a pick and/or Pritchard. Whatever, but giving up Gallo isn't necessary to get it done..

Gallo will be the Celtics version of Utah’s Rudy Gay next year. Utah can’t move Rudy Gay. This is what people can’t get in their heads. Gallo is done as far as being any kind of significant player. Cut bait and move him now if you can get back a useful player.

Gallo was on his last legs (pardon the pun) before his injury. That’s why the Celtics were able to get him for $6 million.
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Re: Trade Thread 2023, con't – Thurs, Feb 9, 3:00PM, EST 

Post#209 » by Hal14 » Sat Feb 4, 2023 7:14 pm

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Celts17Pride wrote:Celtics RealGM poster’s expectations of Danilo Gallinari are 100x greater than what Gallinari is actually capable of producing.

Brad Stevens would be extremely fortunate to pick up a useful player using Gallo’s contract and another team taking an issue away from the Celtics

Why not pick up a useful player, without having to move Gallo? That way, you keep Gallo for next season - and the slight chance that he returns this season.

Vanderbilt fits into the Schroder TPE. Give the Jazz, a pick and/or Pritchard. Whatever, but giving up Gallo isn't necessary to get it done..

Gallo will be the Celtics version of Utah’s Rudy Gay next year. Utah can’t move Rudy Gay. This is what people can’t get in their heads. Gallo is done as far as being any kind of significant player. Cut bait and move him now if you can get back a useful player

Gallo was on his last legs (pardon the pun) before his injury. That’s why the Celtics were able to get him for $6 million.

IDK about that. Joe Ingles just came back from the same injury and is a valuable contributor off the bench for the Bucks. And he's older than Gallo..

And the bolded part is interesting considering that when we signed Gallo, the move was universally praised by every media outlet.

Again, if we can get a useful player for Gallo - sure. But my point is, we can get a useful player *cough* Vanderbilt *cough* without having to give up Gallo.
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Re: Trade Thread 2023, con't – Thurs, Feb 9, 3:00PM, EST 

Post#210 » by canman1971 » Sat Feb 4, 2023 7:22 pm

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We'd have to Trade Gallinari for that; along with Pritchard & Jackson.
Danny has amassed a ton of 1st Round Picks, over the coming years.

If getting KO is what this team thinks they need to get over the top, then, they are not getting over the top.
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Re: Trade Thread 2023, con't – Thurs, Feb 9, 3:00PM, EST 

Post#211 » by Celts17Pride » Sat Feb 4, 2023 7:24 pm

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We'd have to Trade Gallinari for that; along with Pritchard & Jackson.
Danny has amassed a ton of 1st Round Picks, over the coming years.

If getting KO is what this team thinks they need to get over the top, then, they are not getting over the top.

That’s right, Celtics need a 34 year old coming off of an ACL injury to get over the top. :lol: :lol:
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Post#212 » by 165bows » Sat Feb 4, 2023 7:51 pm

I do wonder if a Kyrie trade isn’t going to make it harder to get a decent rotation guy. Brooklyn isn’t going to want long time horizon draft picks. LA is also going to try to nab any other half decent cheap role guys in a deal as well. Seems like that may suck up a decent chunk of available vet role players if the Kyrie move happens.

Seems like a Utah 3-way makes sense with Ainge getting Lakers picks and BRK getting vets. Not sure if Brooklyn is even much worse with Clarkson and 2-3 other guys added in in place of Kyrie.
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Re: Trade Thread 2023, con't – Thurs, Feb 9, 3:00PM, EST 

Post#213 » by Celts17Pride » Sat Feb 4, 2023 7:57 pm

165bows wrote:I do wonder if a Kyrie trade isn’t going to make it harder to get a decent rotation guy. Brooklyn isn’t going to want long time horizon draft picks. LA is also going to try to nab any other half decent cheap role guys in a deal as well. Seems like that may suck up a decent chunk of available vet role players if the Kyrie move happens.

Seems like an Utah 3-way makes sense with Ainge getting Lakers picks and BRK getting vets. Not sure if Brooklyn is even much worse with Clarkson and 2-3 other guys added in in place of Kyrie.

If I had to bet Kyrie is going to the Lakers and a 3rd team will be involved probably the SAS or Utah
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Re: Trade Thread 2023, con't – Thurs, Feb 9, 3:00PM, EST 

Post#214 » by chrisab123 » Sat Feb 4, 2023 8:09 pm

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Some interesting stuff from the Sportshub Celtics Hour with Jim Murray,
the Globe's Chris Gasper and the hardest working elocutor in Sports: B Robb.

Gasper: They are missing Smart.

B Robb: It's a pipe dream, that Gallo is coming back this season.

Gasper/Murray: Kyrie gets what he wants and hates it, but if he goes to Miami, it's a problem for the Celtics.

Group: Kyrie being traded could be a linchpin for other major deals (including the Cs) and possibly the Raptors may
hold off on any major trades, so they could target Durant with their assets in the offseason.

Gasper: They shouldn't hesitate to trade a First Round Pick for PJ Washington, Jaden McDaniels, I think
he mentioned brother Jalen too.

Murray: That phony Celtics win against the Lakers...

Gasper: Glad this Suns loss (worst of the season and Tatum's poorest performance) came before the Trading Deadline,
so Stevens understands there are personnel needs to be addressed.

B Robb: I know the Celtics are interested in Olynyk. Gasper: Olynyk's okay, but I want a more athletic Big Man.

Gasper: The Goble brothers are jokes as referees and when they're officiating a game, it's
a "S**** Show!"

Gasper: I want the Celtics to add a significant rotational piece and discusses trading Grant Williams and Gallo to add
such a player.


Poetil would be an excellent fit if the current core players stuck around. You take Grant out, and it results in Boston needing another big that can shoot. If you're going to make a deal for Grant it has to be for someone with term coming back that can help this year and next. Someone like Mo Bamba. Now I'm not advocating trading Grant for Bamba straight up since that would be crazy but...that type of contract in a contributor is what you'd want back.
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Re: Trade Thread 2023, con't – Thurs, Feb 9, 3:00PM, EST 

Post#215 » by 165bows » Sat Feb 4, 2023 8:19 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:
165bows wrote:I do wonder if a Kyrie trade isn’t going to make it harder to get a decent rotation guy. Brooklyn isn’t going to want long time horizon draft picks. LA is also going to try to nab any other half decent cheap role guys in a deal as well. Seems like that may suck up a decent chunk of available vet role players if the Kyrie move happens.

Seems like an Utah 3-way makes sense with Ainge getting Lakers picks and BRK getting vets. Not sure if Brooklyn is even much worse with Clarkson and 2-3 other guys added in in place of Kyrie.

If I had to bet Kyrie is going to the Lakers and a 3rd team will be involved probably the SAS or Utah

SA is a bit tough imo because how are they going to fill a need for Brooklyn? They are in the cat bird seat in the respect of being the only team left with real cap space.

My guess would be someone is getting picks while BRK is getting vets back from one of Toronto, Utah, or maaaybe Portland. First two would be the big favorites to get involved imo.

Still think on the whole it’s slight negative for Boston, unless some of the teams on the margins get left in the cold and take a last second deal.
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Post#216 » by Hal14 » Sat Feb 4, 2023 8:19 pm

BPM
Vanderbilt +1.6
Olynyk -0.2

Net Rating
Vanderbilt +13
Olynyk +1

Contract
Vanderbilt $4.3 mil
Olynyk $12.8 mil

I'll take Vanderbilt over Olynyk.
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Post#217 » by 165bows » Sat Feb 4, 2023 8:28 pm

Hal14 wrote:BPM
Vanderbilt +1.6
Olynyk -0.2

Net Rating
Vanderbilt +13
Olynyk +1

Contract
Vanderbilt $4.3 mil
Olynyk $12.8 mil

Where are you getting that net rating from?
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Post#218 » by Hal14 » Sat Feb 4, 2023 8:35 pm

165bows wrote:
Hal14 wrote:BPM
Vanderbilt +1.6
Olynyk -0.2

Net Rating
Vanderbilt +13
Olynyk +1

Contract
Vanderbilt $4.3 mil
Olynyk $12.8 mil

Where are you getting that net rating from?

Offensive rating minus defensive rating
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Post#219 » by MagicBagley18 » Sat Feb 4, 2023 8:50 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:Celtics RealGM poster’s expectations of Danilo Gallinari are 100x greater than what Gallinari is actually capable of producing.

Brad Stevens would be extremely fortunate to pick up a useful player using Gallo’s contract and another team taking an issue away from the Celtics


it would be ironic too if he gets moved for a guy who can actually get consistent limited playoff minutes for us even. I viewed Gallo and think the front office did also as a regular season minutes eater. A guy that could win you some games with microwave scoring and hot shooting in mid January and February then see his playing greatly produced for the playoffs.

He was insurance on nights the jays were cold, that Al rested, that brown was hurt. Etc. his playoff impact imo was not going to be significant at all. That said I don’t think he’ll be traded
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Re: Trade Thread 2023, con't – Thurs, Feb 9, 3:00PM, EST 

Post#220 » by MagicBagley18 » Sat Feb 4, 2023 8:52 pm

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Hal14 wrote:Why not pick up a useful player, without having to move Gallo? That way, you keep Gallo for next season - and the slight chance that he returns this season.

Vanderbilt fits into the Schroder TPE. Give the Jazz, a pick and/or Pritchard. Whatever, but giving up Gallo isn't necessary to get it done..

Gallo will be the Celtics version of Utah’s Rudy Gay next year. Utah can’t move Rudy Gay. This is what people can’t get in their heads. Gallo is done as far as being any kind of significant player. Cut bait and move him now if you can get back a useful player

Gallo was on his last legs (pardon the pun) before his injury. That’s why the Celtics were able to get him for $6 million.

IDK about that. Joe Ingles just came back from the same injury and is a valuable contributor off the bench for the Bucks. And he's older than Gallo..

And the bolded part is interesting considering that when we signed Gallo, the move was universally praised by every media outlet.

Again, if we can get a useful player for Gallo - sure. But my point is, we can get a useful player *cough* Vanderbilt *cough* without having to give up Gallo.


If the bucks put joe ingles on the floor in a playoff game we will absolutely roast him. As will other teams.

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