Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread II

[raincityraptors]

I am with you!

Even if we can't do this exact deal the framework of turning a single player into 2 or 3 players with potential upside to make a bigger impact is how we are going to get ourselves back to having a quality 8-9 man rotation.

That depth is what this team needs more than anything. Picks are a way to get there eventually but actual players with upside should definitely be the priority.

This team definitely needs just more talent, badly. Why I really hope we somehow do a 1 for 2/3 deal plus pick up and extra first rounder.

we need more talent and more importantly higher quality talent. trading 1 for 2/3 plus pick is just diluting your talent base; trading a quarter for two dimes and a nickel.
more preferably we need to do 2/3 for 1 trade where that 1 is better than 2+3 combined.
as far as the draft we need more blue chip prospects which hopefully we can get with our high FRP. we'll also have koloko, precious and high second round pick as other wild card prospects. porter should be back next year. what we need a strong backup guard presence, which hopefully we can target with our MLE.

Are you kidding me with this?

Hey guys it looks like someone on this board has no idea about the Greivis Vásquez trade and how we turned one player into depth and talent.

Masai has literally done what I am talking about on this team before. You could say the same about the Rudy Gay trade.

Look at the history of this team. I don't need to disagree with you, history does lol.

[AkelaLoneWolf]

Mann, Powell, Zubac and Kennard are the best the Clippers have to offer. That's very underwhelming for the Nets, but I guess their hands are tied.

The Raptors should try to get in on a 3 way with FVV going to the Nets.

I'm not a petty person but I would never want us to help the Clippers in any way possible. FK the Clippers.

on the other hand, if we can get norm, mann and zubac, that would replenish our bench in a heartbeat.

[mademan]

Kyrie sitting. Nets are 100% making a trade, and i think Clips got the best package. Terrence Mann is probably the best value piece on the market for him that helps them stay competitive now, throw in Roco a pick and im not sure who beats that, tbh.

The Clips literally keep amassing talent year over year. If they get 1 healthy normal playoff run, i dont think anyones beating them

[mademan]

Mann, Powell, Zubac and Kennard are the best the Clippers have to offer. That's very underwhelming for the Nets, but I guess their hands are tied.

The Raptors should try to get in on a 3 way with FVV going to the Nets.

I'm not a petty person but I would never want us to help the Clippers in any way possible. FK the Clippers.

on the other hand, if we can get norm, mann and zubac, that would replenish our bench in a heartbeat.

They have a worse C rotation than the Raps if they move Zu. I dont think he's on the table for Kyrie or FVV

[Tha Cynic]

Mann, Powell, Zubac and Kennard are the best the Clippers have to offer. That's very underwhelming for the Nets, but I guess their hands are tied.

The Raptors should try to get in on a 3 way with FVV going to the Nets.

I'm not a petty person but I would never want us to help the Clippers in any way possible. FK the Clippers.

on the other hand, if we can get norm, mann and zubac, that would replenish our bench in a heartbeat.

No way they give all that for FVV...

[SFour]

Kyrie sitting. Nets are 100% making a trade, and i think Clips got the best package. Terrence Mann is probably the best value piece on the market for him that helps them stay competitive now, throw in Roco a pick and im not sure who beats that, tbh.

The Clips literally keep amassing talent year over year. If they get 1 healthy normal playoff run, i dont think anyones beating them

can't tell if you're serious or joking about the Clips thing

[mademan]

Kyrie sitting. Nets are 100% making a trade, and i think Clips got the best package. Terrence Mann is probably the best value piece on the market for him that helps them stay competitive now, throw in Roco a pick and im not sure who beats that, tbh.

The Clips literally keep amassing talent year over year. If they get 1 healthy normal playoff run, i dont think anyones beating them

can't tell if you're serious or joking about the Clips thing

Im stoked man. I know everyone here hates the Clippers, but i still like Kawhi and im a Kyrie homer, through and through. Most hated player on one of the most hated teams. I want it to happen

[ciueli]

This team definitely needs just more talent, badly. Why I really hope we somehow do a 1 for 2/3 deal plus pick up and extra first rounder.

we need more talent and more importantly higher quality talent. trading 1 for 2/3 plus pick is just diluting your talent base; trading a quarter for two dimes and a nickel.
more preferably we need to do 2/3 for 1 trade where that 1 is better than 2+3 combined.
as far as the draft we need more blue chip prospects which hopefully we can get with our high FRP. we'll also have koloko, precious and high second round pick as other wild card prospects. porter should be back next year. what we need a strong backup guard presence, which hopefully we can target with our MLE.

Are you kidding me with this?

Hey guys it looks like someone on this board has no idea about the Greivis Vásquez trade and how we turned one player into depth and talent.

Masai has literally done what I am talking about on this team before. You could say the same about the Rudy Gay trade.

Look at the history of this team. I don't need to disagree with you, history does lol.

The Vasquez trade was 8 years ago and the Gay trade was 9. Great moves at the time, but all it does is remind me that the days of Masai being the best GM in the league seem to be long gone.

[anotherhomer]

we need more talent and more importantly higher quality talent. trading 1 for 2/3 plus pick is just diluting your talent base; trading a quarter for two dimes and a nickel.
more preferably we need to do 2/3 for 1 trade where that 1 is better than 2+3 combined.
as far as the draft we need more blue chip prospects which hopefully we can get with our high FRP. we'll also have koloko, precious and high second round pick as other wild card prospects. porter should be back next year. what we need a strong backup guard presence, which hopefully we can target with our MLE.

Are you kidding me with this?

Hey guys it looks like someone on this board has no idea about the Greivis Vásquez trade and how we turned one player into depth and talent.

Masai has literally done what I am talking about on this team before. You could say the same about the Rudy Gay trade.

Look at the history of this team. I don't need to disagree with you, history does lol.

The Vasquez trade was 8 years ago and the Gay trade was 9. Great moves at the time, but all it does is remind me that the days of Masai being the best GM in the league seem to be long gone.

He's made good moves, going against consensus to pick barnes.

I'm still a believer that koloko will turn out to be the right move, even over kesseler

[DelAbbot]

Kyrie sitting. Nets are 100% making a trade, and i think Clips got the best package. Terrence Mann is probably the best value piece on the market for him that helps them stay competitive now, throw in Roco a pick and im not sure who beats that, tbh.

The Clips literally keep amassing talent year over year. If they get 1 healthy normal playoff run, i dont think anyones beating them

This is nuts. How can NBA and NBAPA just allow a player to threaten sitting out a top playoff team, as retaliation for feeling slighted by an extension offer? Kyrie has a contract to fulfill for this season. This cannot go unpunished - Kyrie's mental illness (or ego) is single handily destroying player empowerment (by overdoing it) - otherwise this sets a precedence that will destroy the entertainment product that is the NBA

[Rapsfan07]

Are you kidding me with this?

Hey guys it looks like someone on this board has no idea about the Greivis Vásquez trade and how we turned one player into depth and talent.

Masai has literally done what I am talking about on this team before. You could say the same about the Rudy Gay trade.

Look at the history of this team. I don't need to disagree with you, history does lol.

The Vasquez trade was 8 years ago and the Gay trade was 9. Great moves at the time, but all it does is remind me that the days of Masai being the best GM in the league seem to be long gone.

He's made good moves, going against consensus to pick barnes.

I'm still a believer that koloko will turn out to be the right move, even over kesseler

Not sure what fans see in Koloko, much less Raptors brass. I have a feeling if he was selected by any other team in the league, we wouldn't be giving him a second thought. But because he was selected by us, we think he has something special.

Maybe he does, maybe he doesn't. To me, he looks like a 6'9 energy big who MAY become a rotation piece on a winning team. And even that's far from a guarantee as well.

I hope I'm wrong though. That would make me very very happy.

[Mr.Raptorsingh]

Kyrie sitting. Nets are 100% making a trade, and i think Clips got the best package. Terrence Mann is probably the best value piece on the market for him that helps them stay competitive now, throw in Roco a pick and im not sure who beats that, tbh.

The Clips literally keep amassing talent year over year. If they get 1 healthy normal playoff run, i dont think anyones beating them

I think Dallas gets him for Dinwiddie and Wood

[BillNyeBballGuy]

The Vasquez trade was 8 years ago and the Gay trade was 9. Great moves at the time, but all it does is remind me that the days of Masai being the best GM in the league seem to be long gone.

He's made good moves, going against consensus to pick barnes.

I'm still a believer that koloko will turn out to be the right move, even over kesseler

Not sure what fans see in Koloko, much less Raptors brass. I have a feeling if he was selected by any other team in the league, we wouldn't be giving him a second thought. But because he was selected by us, we think he has something special.

Maybe he does, maybe he doesn't. To me, he looks like a 6'9 energy big who MAY become a rotation piece on a winning team. And even that's far from a guarantee as well.

I hope I'm wrong though. That would make me very very happy.

Koloko is 7' 1"

[BillNyeBballGuy]

This team not only sucks, but even worse they are not even entertaining to watch play. No heart, no emotion. Pieces that don't fit together and a very poor offense. This is the one year I've missed the majority of the games.

Please Masai and Bobby give the fans a reason to cheer again....

[Mehar]

He's made good moves, going against consensus to pick barnes.

I'm still a believer that koloko will turn out to be the right move, even over kesseler

Not sure what fans see in Koloko, much less Raptors brass. I have a feeling if he was selected by any other team in the league, we wouldn't be giving him a second thought. But because he was selected by us, we think he has something special.

Maybe he does, maybe he doesn't. To me, he looks like a 6'9 energy big who MAY become a rotation piece on a winning team. And even that's far from a guarantee as well.

I hope I'm wrong though. That would make me very very happy.

Koloko is 7' 1"

Koloko is not 7 foot 1. He measured slightly above 6 foot 10 without shoes at the pre-draft camp. Walker Kessler (drafted by Utah), was 7 feet and a quarter without shoes. Maybe you are thinking about him.

[BillNyeBballGuy]

Not sure what fans see in Koloko, much less Raptors brass. I have a feeling if he was selected by any other team in the league, we wouldn't be giving him a second thought. But because he was selected by us, we think he has something special.

Maybe he does, maybe he doesn't. To me, he looks like a 6'9 energy big who MAY become a rotation piece on a winning team. And even that's far from a guarantee as well.

I hope I'm wrong though. That would make me very very happy.

Koloko is 7' 1"

Koloko is not 7 foot 1. He measured slightly above 6 foot 10 without shoes at the pre-draft camp. Walker Kessler (drafted by Utah), was 7 feet and a quarter without shoes. Maybe you are thinking about him.

Combine measurements were basically 6' 11" (6' 10.75" exactly) and 7' - 7' 1" in shoes dependent on sole thickness. To call him a 6' 9" energy big is inaccurate

[Mehar]

Koloko is 7' 1"

Koloko is not 7 foot 1. He measured slightly above 6 foot 10 without shoes at the pre-draft camp. Walker Kessler (drafted by Utah), was 7 feet and a quarter without shoes. Maybe you are thinking about him.

Combine measurements were basically 6' 11" (6' 10.75" exactly) and 7' - 7' 1" in shoes dependent on sole thickness. To call him a 6' 9" energy big is inaccurate

I went back and checked. Koloko measured 6 feet 10.75 without shoes, and 7 feet with shoes. It is fair to call him a 6 foot 10/11 inch player then, and a stretch to say he is 7 feet 1. Kessler measured 7 feet and a quarter with Utah barefoot. He is a legitimate 7 footer that would look good in Toronto right now. Shaq was a legitimate 7 foot 1 player back in the day. Cannot say the same about Koloko. I am not a fan of referring to people by their shoe heights for various reasons. The NBA started cracking down on that a couple of years ago, when a lot of the heights of NBA players shrunk by two inches after teams submitted their heights without shoes in training camps. It is like saying Sidney Crosby in the NHL is a 6 feet 3 inch player with skates on, since everyone wears skates in hockey.

[BillNyeBballGuy]

Koloko is not 7 foot 1. He measured slightly above 6 foot 10 without shoes at the pre-draft camp. Walker Kessler (drafted by Utah), was 7 feet and a quarter without shoes. Maybe you are thinking about him.

Combine measurements were basically 6' 11" (6' 10.75" exactly) and 7' - 7' 1" in shoes dependent on sole thickness. To call him a 6' 9" energy big is inaccurate

I went back and checked. Koloko measured 6 feet 10.75 without shoes, and 7 foot with shoes. Fair to call him a 6 foot 10/11 player then, and a stretch to say he is 7 foot 1. Kessler measured 7 feet and a quarter with Utah barefoot. He is a legitimate 7 footer that would look good in Toronto right now. Shaq was a legitimate 7 foot 1 player back in the day. Cannot say the same about Koloko. I am not a fan of referring to people by their shoe height for various reasons. It is like saying Sidney Crosby in the NHL is a 6 foot 3 player with skates on, since everyone wears skates in hockey.

Arizona lists Koloko as 7' 1". It's been common place for decades to give NBA player heights in shoes. The average basketball ball shoe adds 1-2" in height. He's not 6'9" and he's not just a bit above 6' 10". He's 6' 11"

[Mehar]

Combine measurements were basically 6' 11" (6' 10.75" exactly) and 7' - 7' 1" in shoes dependent on sole thickness. To call him a 6' 9" energy big is inaccurate

I went back and checked. Koloko measured 6 feet 10.75 without shoes, and 7 foot with shoes. Fair to call him a 6 foot 10/11 player then, and a stretch to say he is 7 foot 1. Kessler measured 7 feet and a quarter with Utah barefoot. He is a legitimate 7 footer that would look good in Toronto right now. Shaq was a legitimate 7 foot 1 player back in the day. Cannot say the same about Koloko. I am not a fan of referring to people by their shoe height for various reasons. It is like saying Sidney Crosby in the NHL is a 6 foot 3 player with skates on, since everyone wears skates in hockey.

Arizona lists Koloko as 7' 1". It's been common place for decades to give NBA player heights in shoes. The average basketball ball shoe adds 1-2" in height. He's not 6'9" and he's not just a bit above 6' 10". He's 6' 11"

Just because it has been common place for decades, does not make it right. Kevin Love was listed 6 foot 10 in College and for his whole career, until the NBA 3 years ago required teams to give their player heights without shoes in training camps. He was 6 feet 7.75 inches tall barefoot, and now listed as 6 foot 8. Other countless examples as well, when heights of players shrank 2-3 inches. So, we can agree now that Koloko is not 7 foot 1 or 6 foot 9. You would not give the heights of hockey players with skates on, since everyone wears skates in the NHL. Same should hold true in the NBA.

[SurgeIblocka]

Id rather irving and fred go anywhere but the Clips. Thats all i care about, I dont want that time sniffing anywhere near a finals appearance ever.