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Post#21 » by Archx » Sun Feb 5, 2023 8:43 pm

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Archx wrote:I'm not going to defend this trade because we all know what Kyrie brings with him. And if it doesn't work out, Mavs will be eventually left with nothing.

The only good thing about this is Green finally getting more minutes and a chance to further develop. But Mavs still desperately need some rim protection and rebounding.



The absolute worst case is Kyrie walks. That means you converted Dinwiddie and DFS into expiring contracts. That's still acceptable going into a rebuild. Dallas is one team that can risk a rebuild because Luka is very young.


They still gave out picks and DFS/Spenc were on a very friendly contracts. They were still big part of this team. Bullock/THJ/Powell/Bertans, on the other hand, are still on the team which is really bad news.
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Post#22 » by arkuo » Sun Feb 5, 2023 8:44 pm

I gotta say I'm impressed. 1 FRP got it done. I was expecting Dallas to send out between 3 to 5. Utah got more pieces for Gobert LMAO
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Post#23 » by arkuo » Sun Feb 5, 2023 8:45 pm

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arkuo wrote:
Archx wrote:I'm not going to defend this trade because we all know what Kyrie brings with him. And if it doesn't work out, Mavs will be eventually left with nothing.

The only good thing about this is Green finally getting more minutes and a chance to further develop. But Mavs still desperately need some rim protection and rebounding.



The absolute worst case is Kyrie walks. That means you converted Dinwiddie and DFS into expiring contracts. That's still acceptable going into a rebuild. Dallas is one team that can risk a rebuild because Luka is very young.


They still gave out picks and DFS/Spenc were on a very friendly contracts. They were still big part of this team. Bullock/THJ/Powell/Bertans, on the other hand, are still on the team which is really bad news.



1 FRP is nothing when OG Anunoby's asking price was 3 FRPs. That's a risk I can take for All NBA talent.

the 2nd rounders in Dallas mean nothing. That's just Cuban drafting Satnam SIngh in the 2nd round. :lol:

I understand your point on Spence and DFS. However if your team is 30th in the NBA on 4 categories without Luka, those teammates mean nothing now. You gotta go.
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Post#24 » by dirkules_41 » Sun Feb 5, 2023 8:47 pm

We will see how it will work out but I'm honestly excited to finally have another All-NBA level player with Luka. The FO actually got something done, time will tell if it will work out but we can't say we're not trying now.

Another question that just came into my head... follow up trades for a big? Morris looks like he hardly played hit year?
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Post#25 » by Archx » Sun Feb 5, 2023 8:49 pm

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The absolute worst case is Kyrie walks. That means you converted Dinwiddie and DFS into expiring contracts. That's still acceptable going into a rebuild. Dallas is one team that can risk a rebuild because Luka is very young.


They still gave out picks and DFS/Spenc were on a very friendly contracts. They were still big part of this team. Bullock/THJ/Powell/Bertans, on the other hand, are still on the team which is really bad news.



1 FRP is nothing when OG Anunoby's asking price was 3 FRPs. That's a risk I can take for All NBA talent.

the 2nd rounders in Dallas mean nothing. That's just Cuban drafting Satnam SIngh in the 2nd round. :lol:


You need to take into the account that Nets were desperate to get rid of Kyrie in just few days. They got even more than i thought. There is a reason that they took this deal and not from a team like Lakers, or LAC, etc... Even Suns could have easily outbid the Mavs if they wanted to.

Everything they gave away, they could have used in another potential (better) deal. But if it works out, Cuban will look like a genius and people like me will look like fools :D
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Post#26 » by arkuo » Sun Feb 5, 2023 8:50 pm

This is something that has not happened in Dallas in like 3 decades.

Having 2 All NBA talents in one team in their primes. Not even Dirk got an All NBA talent in his prime.

It's a first if Im not mistaken.
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Post#27 » by arkuo » Sun Feb 5, 2023 8:52 pm

Archx wrote:
arkuo wrote:
Archx wrote:
They still gave out picks and DFS/Spenc were on a very friendly contracts. They were still big part of this team. Bullock/THJ/Powell/Bertans, on the other hand, are still on the team which is really bad news.



1 FRP is nothing when OG Anunoby's asking price was 3 FRPs. That's a risk I can take for All NBA talent.

the 2nd rounders in Dallas mean nothing. That's just Cuban drafting Satnam SIngh in the 2nd round. :lol:


You need to take into the account that Nets were desperate to get rid of Kyrie in just few days. They got even more than i thought. There is a reason that they took this deal and not from a team like Lakers, or LAC, etc... Even Suns could have easily outbid the Mavs if they wanted to.

Everything they gave away, they could have used in another potential (better) deal. But if it works out, Cuban will look like a genius and people like me will look like fools :D


Understood. I guess they wanted to go with the sure option. A bird in the hand is always better than a (potential) bird in the bush.

Cuban has been keeping the DUST chip of expiring contracts since Eric Dampier and has never netted All NBA talent via a trade. Now this falls on his lap, unbelievable.
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Post#28 » by Forbes » Sun Feb 5, 2023 8:52 pm

This is actually a great trade. We take a look at Kyrie and how he fits to end the season and worse case we just unloaded some contracts and got rid of a pick that probably won’t matter if we keep putting talent around Luka.

This is the top end talent we needed. And we just need to start focusing on finding defenders. I’m no longer worried about score wearing Luka out.
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Post#29 » by arkuo » Sun Feb 5, 2023 8:55 pm

All this means is Luka dribbling the ball for 35 minutes a game is now a thing of the past.

I dare Kidd to instruct Kyrie to stand in the corner pocket and become a spot up shooter like Maxi Kleber. There is no way LMAO
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Post#30 » by Archx » Sun Feb 5, 2023 8:57 pm

arkuo wrote:
Archx wrote:
arkuo wrote:

1 FRP is nothing when OG Anunoby's asking price was 3 FRPs. That's a risk I can take for All NBA talent.

the 2nd rounders in Dallas mean nothing. That's just Cuban drafting Satnam SIngh in the 2nd round. :lol:


You need to take into the account that Nets were desperate to get rid of Kyrie in just few days. They got even more than i thought. There is a reason that they took this deal and not from a team like Lakers, or LAC, etc... Even Suns could have easily outbid the Mavs if they wanted to.

Everything they gave away, they could have used in another potential (better) deal. But if it works out, Cuban will look like a genius and people like me will look like fools :D


Understood. I guess they wanted to go with the sure option. A bird in the hand is always better than a (potential) bird in the bush.

Cuban has been keeping the DUST chip of expiring contracts since Eric Dampier and has never netted All NBA talent via a trade. Now this falls on his lap, unbelievable.


Will be interesting to see what they do with Wood though. They can't let him walk or trade now. He was way too good. If Maxi can come back at full strength, they can do something with triple scoring threats in Luka/Kyrie/Wood and Maxi/Green as 3&D guys. But problem is, Kidd is still a coach with zero creativity. He's going to be literally bailed out by Kyrie and Luka now. Nash 2.0.
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Post#31 » by Zeno » Sun Feb 5, 2023 8:58 pm

Good luck Mavs fans. Honestly hope this works out for you. Aside from the obvious concerns, defence might be an issue. I think you should move Wood and some 1sts for someone to shore up the defence. If you could get Turner that might be ideal.
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Post#32 » by GeorgeGervin » Sun Feb 5, 2023 8:58 pm

So I guess teams will be scoring 135 on us every night from now on, until Kyrie decides to leave...
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Post#33 » by arkuo » Sun Feb 5, 2023 8:59 pm

Archx wrote:
arkuo wrote:
Archx wrote:
You need to take into the account that Nets were desperate to get rid of Kyrie in just few days. They got even more than i thought. There is a reason that they took this deal and not from a team like Lakers, or LAC, etc... Even Suns could have easily outbid the Mavs if they wanted to.

Everything they gave away, they could have used in another potential (better) deal. But if it works out, Cuban will look like a genius and people like me will look like fools :D


Understood. I guess they wanted to go with the sure option. A bird in the hand is always better than a (potential) bird in the bush.

Cuban has been keeping the DUST chip of expiring contracts since Eric Dampier and has never netted All NBA talent via a trade. Now this falls on his lap, unbelievable.


Will be interesting to see what they do with Wood though. They can't let him walk or trade now. He was way too good. If Maxi can come back at full strength, they can do something with triple scoring threats in Luka/Kyrie/Wood. But problem is, Kidd is still a coach with zero creativity. He's going to be literally bailed out by Kyrie and Luka now. Nash 2.0.


Agree with Kidd. Luka and Kyrie about to make him look Coach of the freakin year now.

Not sure if Nico is done dealing. There is like 5 days til the deadline for Wood.

Markieff Morris is there to beat up thugs in the playoffs. :rofl:
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Post#34 » by arkuo » Sun Feb 5, 2023 8:59 pm

GeorgeGervin wrote:So I guess teams will be scoring 135 on us every night from now on, until Kyrie decides to leave...



They've been doing that even before Kyrie arrived. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Post#35 » by ejs78 » Sun Feb 5, 2023 8:59 pm

arkuo wrote:
Archx wrote:
arkuo wrote:
Understood. I guess they wanted to go with the sure option. A bird in the hand is always better than a (potential) bird in the bush.

Cuban has been keeping the DUST chip of expiring contracts since Eric Dampier and has never netted All NBA talent via a trade. Now this falls on his lap, unbelievable.


Will be interesting to see what they do with Wood though. They can't let him walk or trade now. He was way too good. If Maxi can come back at full strength, they can do something with triple scoring threats in Luka/Kyrie/Wood. But problem is, Kidd is still a coach with zero creativity. He's going to be literally bailed out by Kyrie and Luka now. Nash 2.0.


Agree with Kidd. Luka and Kyrie about to make him look Coach of the freakin year now.

Not sure if Nico is done dealing. There is like 5 days til the deadline for Wood.

Markieff Morris is there to beat up thugs in the playoffs. :rofl:
I don't think they are done either.

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Post#36 » by Mavrelous » Sun Feb 5, 2023 9:00 pm

High risk, high reward type of move, but anyone watching this team thinking it was fine was kidding themselves.
If anyone wants to know how good focused Kyrie is watch the 1st 3 games against the Bucks in ECSF 2 years ago, Nets were annihilating the eventual champions before he went down, and he was the best player on the floor.
The risk is more from hom being injury prone than him being a nutjob.
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Post#37 » by Captain_Obvious » Sun Feb 5, 2023 9:00 pm

Great!

2029 first means we can trade 2025 and 2027 first IFF this years pick goes to the Knicks. So, we reload next offseaon with two picks available.

Now retain Wood
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Post#38 » by 41Dirk41 » Sun Feb 5, 2023 9:00 pm

I don't know what will happen, it's a high risk move for sure but the Luka patience was almost over.
No way he will play next years with those role players.
Another year like this and he will demand a trade for sure, and i'm pretty sure that he agreed with that trade. They asked him for sure.

I hope they talked about an extension before the trade.

Green will play a lot of minutes but we desperately need a defensive and rim protector C. Holmes?
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Post#39 » by arkuo » Sun Feb 5, 2023 9:01 pm

Zeno wrote:Good luck Mavs fans. Honestly hope this works out for you. Aside from the obvious concerns, defence might be an issue. I think you should move Wood and some 1sts for someone to shore up the defence. If you could get Turner that might be ideal.



The drop off in defense is overblown. Spence couldn't defend a traffic cone and DFS' defense is okay but not All NBA great. People need to chill when referring to DFS' defense. He's not locking down anyone.
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Post#40 » by GeorgeGervin » Sun Feb 5, 2023 9:01 pm

Archx wrote:
arkuo wrote:
Archx wrote:
You need to take into the account that Nets were desperate to get rid of Kyrie in just few days. They got even more than i thought. There is a reason that they took this deal and not from a team like Lakers, or LAC, etc... Even Suns could have easily outbid the Mavs if they wanted to.

Everything they gave away, they could have used in another potential (better) deal. But if it works out, Cuban will look like a genius and people like me will look like fools :D


Understood. I guess they wanted to go with the sure option. A bird in the hand is always better than a (potential) bird in the bush.

Cuban has been keeping the DUST chip of expiring contracts since Eric Dampier and has never netted All NBA talent via a trade. Now this falls on his lap, unbelievable.


Will be interesting to see what they do with Wood though. They can't let him walk or trade now. He was way too good. If Maxi can come back at full strength, they can do something with triple scoring threats in Luka/Kyrie/Wood and Maxi/Green as 3&D guys. But problem is, Kidd is still a coach with zero creativity. He's going to be literally bailed out by Kyrie and Luka now. Nash 2.0.


I don't see Maxi coming back to the defender he was and while Green is a good defender he isn't a 3&D guy yet and he's too small to defend on forwards like DFS used to.

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