2022-23 Season Discussion and Speculation 4 - Trade season continues - No player trade restrictions

[lonea]

LOL at some people here so scared by the Mavs. Mavs will be comical on defense and it will take some time for Luka and Kyrie to build chemistry if they ever do. On top of that Kyrie could leave in the offseason.

WTF cares about Kyrie leaving in the off season... They gave up nobodies for Kyrie. If he leaves he leaves and they get 30M+ cap room.

Nobodies? Those are two very good starters in the league on fair deals. And a FRP.

Good role players. Barely starters.

So yea, they gave up nobodies for an all star caliber player.

[bwoolf2]

I might be the only one here, but I am happy that Kyrie didn't go to LA, either team. Though that can change if he ends up going there this summer anyway.

I'll be even happier if Durant doesn't either. Will be gutting this team of young guys and picks likely starts with Mikal who just keeps getting better.

Durant is great but he doesn't play every day like mikal and he is old he likely starts going down hill like CP3 he ai ain't built like Lebron he likely goes downhill fast

[sunsbg]

WTF cares about Kyrie leaving in the off season... They gave up nobodies for Kyrie. If he leaves he leaves and they get 30M+ cap room.

Nobodies? Those are two very good starters in the league on fair deals. And a FRP.

Good role players. Barely starters.

So yea, they gave up nobodies for an all star caliber player.

I'll believe Doncic and Irving are good fit when I see it. Let's see how good is Luka playing off ball and sharing the ball with another ball dominant player.

[lonea]

Soooooooo why are the Nets trading us Kevin Durant?

Cheaper to pay CP+Ayton then paying KD ?

You know NBA is all about trading salaries right...

They can get a MUCH better offer from many different teams.

Your trade idea would never happen....no one does that trade in Brooklyn lol

As if they got better value with the Kyrie trade? lol

[TeamTragic]

You trade for Durant you better win a championship, cause you will be capped with no picks, CP3 is all but done, so you ain't getting better you are stuck with an aging roster and rebuild, Book ain't going through that again. It's an all in move that either pays off with a championship or fails spectacularly there is no middle ground

You don't trade for KD and that could happen as well. JJ is an absolute moron for not throwing in whatever was necessary to get Kyrie on the SUNS.

Just to be clear I don't want KD. That leaves this team with absolutely no direction.

[Biff]

At one point this season, we were 15-6, and a 1 seed, IIRC. This entire season has been played with one roster spot being held hostage, and one of our, what, top 6 or 7 producers from last season, doing squat for our team this season. Booker has been out for more than half the season, yes? And we've been 13-16 since, and how many of those games were we down 3 starters, and we are still a 5-seed in the West right now. So long as we get healthy at the right time, and get something useful back for Crowder, we can still make an incredibly strong push this season, and into the Playoffs. I remember seeing all the posts in the off-season, on how we were essentially done in the West, and at best, a 5 or 6 seed, but that was presuming that we weren't down our best player for almost half the season so far, right?

Sure, every team deals with injuries, but can another team honestly boast having a winning record with as many injuries and games lost as we've sustained to 4 of 5 of our starters?

Ayton - 9 gms
Paul - 21 gms
Booker - 26 gms
C. Johnson - 39 gms

That's a ton of time lost by our starters, with only our own version of the Iron Man being healthy all season.

So, yeah, I agree, Dallas just got tougher, but we're a heck of a lot better with less, than most gave us a chance of being, assuming healthy starters.

Okay...sis-boom-rah speech over. But, I for one,am interested in seeing what benefit the 'any player with a heartbeat' is going to give our team, that's at least a little better, once Crowder is traded...

We were a heck a lot better last year too. FAR better given our record vs theirs. And what happened? Mavs own us again in the playoffs if we meet again. They'll just attack CP3 over and over and over again. Just like they did last year.

[bwoolf2]

You trade for Durant you better win a championship, cause you will be capped with no picks, CP3 is all but done, so you ain't getting better you are stuck with an aging roster and rebuild, Book ain't going through that again. It's an all in move that either pays off with a championship or fails spectacularly there is no middle ground

You don't trade for KD and that could happen as well. JJ is an absolute moron for not throwing in whatever was necessary to get Kyrie on the SUNS.

You have young players and picks to compete for another 10 years, it's absolutely 2 different things, it doesnt work Booker is gone in 2 years

[phnart]

I just don't see Kyrie and Luka being compatible for the long haul. While Kyrie walking at the end of the year frees up a lot of cap space for the Mavs, it may also come at the cost of showing that Luka can't play with another star which won't attract the type of players they want to attract.

Either way, the Mavs don't have much for defense so they'll have to tear a page out of the 7 Seconds or Less playbook and just worry about getting more points than everybody else other than the Suns. We'll just have to wait and see if they still own our boys. Hopefully not.

I'm glad Kyrie to the Suns is not a possibility.

[SkyBill40]

Cmon... new owner do something!

CP + Ayton for KD + O'Neal

You're high. Time to pass.

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LOL, cmon

CP is not even close to being a 30M and won't ever be elite again seeing how bad he's struggling.

Ayton sucks, period.

Never said Paul had remotely close to that value and us giving him that contract was stupid. Straight up.

As for Ayton? Never have been and never will be a fan. I'd trade him for a pair of game worn socks and the leftover Gatorade.

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[sunskerr]

Nobodies? Those are two very good starters in the league on fair deals. And a FRP.

Good role players. Barely starters.

So yea, they gave up nobodies for an all star caliber player.

I'll believe Doncic and Irving are good fit when I see it. Let's see how good is Luka playing off ball and sharing the ball with another ball dominant player.

I may have to post this for the 100th time which is unfortunate.

Pretty much every team in the NBA needs multiple creators and scorers. In the playoffs this stuff becomes more valuable as defenses break down due to better players being on the court more and refs swallowing their whistles for more physicality. In other words in playoffs time you have to isolate more or score more off broken plays which increases the value of star creators.

Most great scorers in the NBA have no trouble coexisting anymore either due to the increase in spacing and other general advances made in offensive strategy, especially if they can both hit 3s and space the floor for themselves.

Only the defense is a concern to be honest.

[BobbieL]

You trade for Durant you better win a championship, cause you will be capped with no picks, CP3 is all but done, so you ain't getting better you are stuck with an aging roster and rebuild, Book ain't going through that again. It's an all in move that either pays off with a championship or fails spectacularly there is no middle ground

Exactly right. It is still a very small window if you trade for Durant.

Its radio silence on the Suns - which is a good thing - as I expect something that wasn't talked about

I have no idea what it is -but looking forward to the next 96 hours

[Young gun 6]

WTF cares about Kyrie leaving in the off season... They gave up nobodies for Kyrie. If he leaves he leaves and they get 30M+ cap room.

Nobodies? Those are two very good starters in the league on fair deals. And a FRP.

Good role players. Barely starters.

So yea, they gave up nobodies for an all star caliber player.

Dinwiddie’s averaging 18/3/5 on 46/41/82 (about the same as Brunson was next to Luka)

DFS is an elite defender and Luka’s no.1 guy. Lowe said on the podcast it would be risky moving DFS purely for the fact he’s the one guy Luka absolutely loves and has been his best friend in the league.

Unprotected 1st 4 years from now. Luka could easily leave by then if Dallas haven’t made the finals. Future Unprotected picks are crazy valuable no matter what team it is given what can happen that far down the track.

There’s also no guarantee Kyrie stays end of the season and you’ve then trade Dinwiddie, DFS for nothing and have barely any assets, picks or cap space to put anything next to Luka again.

Super high risk for Dallas.

Pretty good haul for Nets given the circumstances.

[bwoolf2]

You trade for Durant you better win a championship, cause you will be capped with no picks, CP3 is all but done, so you ain't getting better you are stuck with an aging roster and rebuild, Book ain't going through that again. It's an all in move that either pays off with a championship or fails spectacularly there is no middle ground

Exactly right. It is still a very small window if you trade for Durant.

Its radio silence on the Suns - which is a good thing - as I expect something that wasn't talked about

I have no idea what it is -but looking forward to the next 96 hours

Plus can you name me a single team that made that big of a move mid season and won a championship because I can't think of a single one ever.

[Slim Charless]

Cheaper to pay CP+Ayton then paying KD ?

You know NBA is all about trading salaries right...

They can get a MUCH better offer from many different teams.

Your trade idea would never happen....no one does that trade in Brooklyn lol

As if they got better value with the Kyrie trade? lol

Nets aren't trading Kevin Durant for Ayton and cp3. That's never gonna happen.

[lonea]

They can get a MUCH better offer from many different teams.

Your trade idea would never happen....no one does that trade in Brooklyn lol

As if they got better value with the Kyrie trade? lol

Nets aren't trading Kevin Durant for Ayton and cp3. That's never gonna happen.

But didn't the Nets just traded Kyrie got 2 role players... LOL

CP3 + Ayton is a better trade value (skills and salary) than Dinwiddle + DFS. So your argument is hilarious

[BobbieL]

You trade for Durant you better win a championship, cause you will be capped with no picks, CP3 is all but done, so you ain't getting better you are stuck with an aging roster and rebuild, Book ain't going through that again. It's an all in move that either pays off with a championship or fails spectacularly there is no middle ground

Exactly right. It is still a very small window if you trade for Durant.

Its radio silence on the Suns - which is a good thing - as I expect something that wasn't talked about

I have no idea what it is -but looking forward to the next 96 hours

Plus can you name me a single team that made that big of a move mid season and won a championship because I can't think of a single one ever.

The Nets made this move to keep competitive. If they wanted the draft picks - they could have traded with the Lakers for RW and there first FRPs - not protected

I don't see Durant as an option

The Suns need to go back to what the Celtics did last year getting White and Theis. Two rotational players
I don't care who goes from this group, though Saric has been playing well and with less minutes, Craig is probably more effective: Crowder, Sham, Payne, SAric, Okogie, Jock or Craig
draft picks - maybe throw one out there

[Slim Charless]

As if they got better value with the Kyrie trade? lol

Nets aren't trading Kevin Durant for Ayton and cp3. That's never gonna happen.

But didn't the Nets just traded Kyrie got 2 role players... LOL

CP3 + Ayton is a better trade value (skills and salary) than Dinwiddle + DFS. So your argument is hilarious

Kevin Durant has more trade value then Kyrie lol.


You keep coming back to this. You really think the Nets are gonna trade him for cp3/Ayton? Why wouldn't Portland or Memphis or Toronto offer more....?

Is this a troll? You can't be serious lmao.

[lonea]

Nobodies? Those are two very good starters in the league on fair deals. And a FRP.

Good role players. Barely starters.

So yea, they gave up nobodies for an all star caliber player.

Dinwiddie’s averaging 18/3/5 on 46/41/82 (about the same as Brunson was next to Luka)

DFS is an elite defender and Luka’s no.1 guy. Lowe said on the podcast it would be risky moving DFS purely for the fact he’s the one guy Luka absolutely loves and has been his best friend in the league.

Unprotected 1st 4 years from now. Luka could easily leave by then if Dallas haven’t made the finals. Future Unprotected picks are crazy valuable no matter what team it is given what can happen that far down the track.

There’s also no guarantee Kyrie stays end of the season and you’ve then trade Dinwiddie, DFS for nothing and have barely any assets, picks or cap space to put anything next to Luka again.

Super high risk for Dallas.

Pretty good haul for Nets given the circumstances.

Dinwiddie and DFS are dime a dozen in today's NBA.

There's a reason why Dinwiddie never got a big contract in the league.

Sure, elite defender is good to have. But most GM would rather have Bogdanovic (either Bogdan or Bojan) than DFS.

[lonea]

Nets aren't trading Kevin Durant for Ayton and cp3. That's never gonna happen.

But didn't the Nets just traded Kyrie got 2 role players... LOL

CP3 + Ayton is a better trade value (skills and salary) than Dinwiddle + DFS. So your argument is hilarious

Kevin Durant has more trade value then Kyrie lol.


You keep coming back to this. You really think the Nets are gonna trade him for cp3/Ayton? Why wouldn't Portland or Memphis or Toronto offer more....?

Is this a troll? You can't be serious lmao.

Sure, they can offer. But this is a Suns board and not Portland, Memphis or Toronto board.

The fact that you have no argument is pretty sad. Your whole argument is Nets aren't gonna trade KD but they just traded away Kyrie for peanuts

[spanishninja]

You trade for Durant you better win a championship, cause you will be capped with no picks, CP3 is all but done, so you ain't getting better you are stuck with an aging roster and rebuild, Book ain't going through that again. It's an all in move that either pays off with a championship or fails spectacularly there is no middle ground

Exactly right. It is still a very small window if you trade for Durant.

Its radio silence on the Suns - which is a good thing - as I expect something that wasn't talked about

I have no idea what it is -but looking forward to the next 96 hours

Plus can you name me a single team that made that big of a move mid season and won a championship because I can't think of a single one ever.

drexler

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