Trade Deadline Approaches

[Wizenheimer]

Kyrie headed to Dallas. Nets didn’t get much in return but could be addition by subtraction just to be done with his nonsense.

Will be interesting to see what happens with KD after this.

Dinwiddie is a decent player. DFS is meh.

Cuban is rolling the dice big-time because Irving has become toxic wherever he goes. Doncic & Kyrie are both very ball-dominant. Will be interesting

[DusterBuster]

Kyrie headed to Dallas. Nets didn’t get much in return but could be addition by subtraction just to be done with his nonsense.

Will be interesting to see what happens with KD after this.

Would they trade Ben Simmons to Portland?

He might be perfect for Portland he literally does all the things that Dame, Ant and Grant seem disinterested in doing.

Barf. No thanks. Dude barely gives an effort in the games he decides to actually show up for. Nets can keep him

[DusterBuster]

Kyrie headed to Dallas. Nets didn’t get much in return but could be addition by subtraction just to be done with his nonsense.

Will be interesting to see what happens with KD after this.

Dinwiddie is a decent player. DFS is meh.

Cuban is rolling the dice big-time because Irving has become toxic wherever he goes. Doncic & Kyrie are both very ball-dominant. Will be interesting

Yeah, agreed. Been rumblings on the talking heads podcasts that Luka could be a low-key guy who gets unhappy and may leave if the Mavs don’t do enough. So definitely a move by them to show they’re trying to put talent around him, but, if it blows up and Kyrie is super toxic… could be dangerous. That said, this price was low enough that they could just use him as a rental if (when) they see red flags.

[Goldbum]

With that out of the way I want Portland to get in on the John Collins talk. Just not sure what that would look like ... he's likely at his all time lowest value.

[The Sebastian Express]

I would love Simmons.

Absolutely would love Simmons.

Dallas has a lot of offensive firepower..

And a backcourt that's going to get equally as torched, I fear.

[PDXKnight]

Kyrie headed to Dallas. Nets didn’t get much in return but could be addition by subtraction just to be done with his nonsense.

Will be interesting to see what happens with KD after this.

Dinwiddie is a decent player. DFS is meh.

Cuban is rolling the dice big-time because Irving has become toxic wherever he goes. Doncic & Kyrie are both very ball-dominant. Will be interesting

Doesn't seem like a huge gamble imo. Dallas doesn't really lose much here

[DusterBuster]

Kyrie headed to Dallas. Nets didn’t get much in return but could be addition by subtraction just to be done with his nonsense.

Will be interesting to see what happens with KD after this.

Dinwiddie is a decent player. DFS is meh.

Cuban is rolling the dice big-time because Irving has become toxic wherever he goes. Doncic & Kyrie are both very ball-dominant. Will be interesting

Doesn't seem like a huge gamble imo. Dallas doesn't really lose much here

Yeah… I didn’t realize also that if it doesn’t work and they let Kyrie walk at the end of the year, they’ll have max cap space to spend. So definitely a low ish risk trade.

[JRoy]

I would love Simmons.

Absolutely would love Simmons.

Dallas has a lot of offensive firepower..

And a backcourt that's going to get equally as torched, I fear.

Simmons could be a great pickup if the deal if right.

[red_power]

For Brooklyn this is nothing but a desperate attempt to turn their extraterrestrial dude into some solid down-to-earth assets in a situation when they were really cornered.
Anyway, both Durant and Simons are locked on long terms deals so I don't think Nets are going to blow their roster up before this deadline.

[PDXKnight]

For Brooklyn this is nothing but a desperate attempt to turn their extraterrestrial dude into some solid down-to-earth assets in a situation when they were really cornered.
Anyway, both Durant and Simons are locked on long terms deals so I don't think Nets are going to blow their roster up before this deadline.

Yeah but hopefully portland at least tries

[soobias]

i hope they at least have a convo with brooklyn to see what/how much they would want for KD.
it would be interesting to see KD and DAME paired together

[wjun15]

POR in: Simmons
POR out: Winslow, Little, Hart, Payton
Nurk/Eubanks
Grant/Simmons
Simmons/Sharpe
Simons/Sharpe
Lillard/Simons

Would be freaking fun!

BKN in: Little, Garland, Levert, Okoro, Osman, Westbrook, 23, 25, 27 CLE 1sts, both LAL 1sts
BKN out: Durant, Irving, Simmons, Morris, Warren

BKN young core: Claxton/Garland/Little/Okoro/Osman/crazy amount of picks/flip Levert or Westbrook

CLE in: Durant, Hart, Payton, Beverly, Winslow, Warren
CLE out: Garland, Levert, Okoro, Love 23, 25, 27 1sts

Allen/Mobley
Mobley/KD
KD/Winslow
Hart/Windler
Mitchell/Rubio

Real contender status!

LAL in: Kyrie, Love, Morris
LAL out: Westbrook, '27 & '29 1sts, Beverly

Seems obviously a yes for LAL

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Is Hart/(dead money)Payton/Winslow(good backup)/Little(nice prospect)

For Simmons bad for Portland??

Would Portland NEED picks or a pick comming in? Could random seconds suffice?

I want to stay as far away from Ben Simmons as possible, particularly with his contract. He's a talented player but I don't think he can be relied upon.

if people are complaining Hart not shooting/making open 3s. just wait until ben is spotting up lmao

[monopoman]

So with the KD trade speculation I have made what I deem is about the minimum that KD would cost us.

This pushes the Blazers into win-now mode and I think I can stomach this trade with KD tied to this team for 4 years, assuming he wouldn't cause a problem here. I want no part of this trade if KD is going to make a scene and demand a trade shortly after this.



This would likely require us giving up the protection on the 1st round pick going to the Bulls, which then allows us to trade some number of 1sts and 2nd round picks. I can get behind this trade because this gives Dame the best shot at winning a championship as a Blazer.

If the Nets want to tank they might also be willing to toss us some other random vet that they have no use for to make this a bit easier.

[Case2012]

Unless KD asks out I don't think they're gonna trade him. Even then, I think they wait until the off season given their record. They'll still make the playoffs with that team and tbh I could see them making at least the second round, after which they try to convince KD they can build around him.

[monopoman]

Unless KD asks out I don't think they're gonna trade him. Even then, I think they wait until the off season given their record. They'll still make the playoffs with that team and tbh I could see them making at least the second round, after which they try to convince KD they can build around him.

I can't imagine KD wanting to stick around on a team without Kyrie, they are very likely 1st round fodder with KD+Simmons. ****, KD had rumblings about wanted to be traded last off-season I doubt this situation makes him more likely to stay. Keep in mind when KD first went to the Nets he told them it was Kyrie and him or that he would not sign there.

Now if they look even better after trading Kyrie maybe KD falls in line, but I would be blown away if that happens.

[Case2012]

Unless KD asks out I don't think they're gonna trade him. Even then, I think they wait until the off season given their record. They'll still make the playoffs with that team and tbh I could see them making at least the second round, after which they try to convince KD they can build around him.

I can't imagine KD wanting to stick around on a team without Kyrie, they are very likely 1st round fodder with KD+Simmons. ****, KD had rumblings about wanted to be traded last off-season I doubt this situation makes him more likely to stay. Keep in mind when KD first went to the Nets he told them it was Kyrie and him or that he would not sign there.

Now if they look even better after trading Kyrie maybe KD falls in line, but I would be blown away if that happens.

I would still offer every player and every pick we have for him besides Dame. You can sign vet minimum ring chasers next off season and still have a better chance to contend than we do currently.

[monopoman]

Unless KD asks out I don't think they're gonna trade him. Even then, I think they wait until the off season given their record. They'll still make the playoffs with that team and tbh I could see them making at least the second round, after which they try to convince KD they can build around him.

I can't imagine KD wanting to stick around on a team without Kyrie, they are very likely 1st round fodder with KD+Simmons. ****, KD had rumblings about wanted to be traded last off-season I doubt this situation makes him more likely to stay. Keep in mind when KD first went to the Nets he told them it was Kyrie and him or that he would not sign there.

Now if they look even better after trading Kyrie maybe KD falls in line, but I would be blown away if that happens.

I would still offer every player and every pick we have for him besides Dame. You can sign vet minimum ring chasers next off season and still have a better chance to contend than we do currently.

I don't think it would take that much, if the Nets trade him there is no way they are in win-now mode. Guys like Nurkic or Grant are likely not that appealing to them, but yes the Blazers would do whatever it takes to make it work. I think the two gems that they want are Simons and Sharpe, very high potential on both players.

[DusterBuster]

Unless KD asks out I don't think they're gonna trade him. Even then, I think they wait until the off season given their record. They'll still make the playoffs with that team and tbh I could see them making at least the second round, after which they try to convince KD they can build around him.

I can't imagine KD wanting to stick around on a team without Kyrie, they are very likely 1st round fodder with KD+Simmons. ****, KD had rumblings about wanted to be traded last off-season I doubt this situation makes him more likely to stay. Keep in mind when KD first went to the Nets he told them it was Kyrie and him or that he would not sign there.

Now if they look even better after trading Kyrie maybe KD falls in line, but I would be blown away if that happens.

Wasn’t even rumblings, he straight up flat out asked for a trade. So it’s definitely not off the table by any means, but I do agree (and reports back up) that the Nets will only move him if he asks out, otherwise they’re gonna try and keep KD and keep retooling around him.

[monopoman]

Unless KD asks out I don't think they're gonna trade him. Even then, I think they wait until the off season given their record. They'll still make the playoffs with that team and tbh I could see them making at least the second round, after which they try to convince KD they can build around him.

I can't imagine KD wanting to stick around on a team without Kyrie, they are very likely 1st round fodder with KD+Simmons. ****, KD had rumblings about wanted to be traded last off-season I doubt this situation makes him more likely to stay. Keep in mind when KD first went to the Nets he told them it was Kyrie and him or that he would not sign there.

Now if they look even better after trading Kyrie maybe KD falls in line, but I would be blown away if that happens.

Wasn’t even rumblings, he straight up flat out asked for a trade. So it’s definitely not off the table by any means, but I do agree (and reports back up) that the Nets will only move him if he asks out, otherwise they’re gonna try and keep KD and keep retooling around him.

He did ask but my point was I wasn't sure if he really pushed that trade angle, if KD went full on I will be a complete dick and a distraction if you don't give me this trade that would be one thing. KD also didn't have good leverage that off-season he had 5 more years on his deal at that point counting the current season, pretty hard to force the Nets to do anything in that circumstance.

Much easier to force a trade when they are worried you might walk in the next 1-2 seasons. Players lose quite a bit of leverage when they have a long contract with their current team.

[Case2012]

I'd offer Ant/Sharpe/Keon/Hart/Watford/Nurkic and 3 top 3 protected firsts and 2 swaps for Curry/Warren/Dinwiddie and KD. Sign Cousins or Howard (Both?) to a vet minimum deal... Maybe even Melo as well for shooting. I don't care how old they are, they're cheap and talented. Obviously you're not signing them for defense but savvy experience. Totally open to other options but I can't think of any off the top of my head. As far as talent goes, they're the best options out there to fill out the roster cheap for a serious run this year.

Dame/Payton
Dinwiddie/Curry
Grant/Warren
KD/Winslow/Melo
Eubanks/Howard/Cousins

That leaves us with only Dame, KD, Dinwiddie, and Payton signed next year so we can start from scratch to build around our 2 stars for the last few years of their primes.