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Re: Fake Trade Thread #5 

Post#121 » by Diop » Sun Feb 5, 2023 12:15 pm

SWedd523 wrote:
fatlever wrote:i'll try...

out: gordon, terry
in: westbrook, 1rp from lakers

out: kyrie, harris
in: gordon, terry, lonnie, 1rp from lakers

out: westbrook, lonnie
in: kyrie, harris

lakers only willing to give up two 1rps w/ some assurances kyrie would resign. are nets getting too much for a player who wont resign? are hornets willing to cut bait on both terry and gordon to get a clean cap and future 1rp?

who says no?

I do. The Lakers win that trade going away. **** that

According to trade machine, lakers including Rui to us still works. Does that even it up a little. I’d be happy with a 1st and a prospect for our 2 vets.

I think Brooklyn wouldn’t value our vets though
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #5 

Post#122 » by BeesWax » Sun Feb 5, 2023 12:40 pm

Diop wrote:
SWedd523 wrote:
fatlever wrote:i'll try...

out: gordon, terry
in: westbrook, 1rp from lakers

out: kyrie, harris
in: gordon, terry, lonnie, 1rp from lakers

out: westbrook, lonnie
in: kyrie, harris

lakers only willing to give up two 1rps w/ some assurances kyrie would resign. are nets getting too much for a player who wont resign? are hornets willing to cut bait on both terry and gordon to get a clean cap and future 1rp?

who says no?

I do. The Lakers win that trade going away. **** that

According to trade machine, lakers including Rui to us still works. Does that even it up a little. I’d be happy with a 1st and a prospect for our 2 vets.

I think Brooklyn wouldn’t value our vets though

I think they would. Send out Mills to LA as well and have Plumlee going to the Nets. Those guys would fit great on the Nets team. All three of them are good playing off of a star. If they still want to try to be competitive this season they have to think winning around KD with depth because they aren’t getting another star. Get guys who can be secondary scorers and get the ball to KD.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #5 

Post#123 » by Bassman » Sun Feb 5, 2023 2:47 pm

I’d LOVE to get Rui here as part of a 3 way trade. Russ, LaMelo, Rui, a fading PJ (or trade him for a better 4) and Mark would be a fun starting 5. Test drive Rui to see if he’s part of our future.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #5 

Post#124 » by JDR720 » Sun Feb 5, 2023 9:54 pm

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Re: Fake Trade Thread #5 

Post#125 » by Hornet Mania » Sun Feb 5, 2023 10:04 pm

JDR720 wrote:https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/270288/Kings-Interested-In-Mason-Plumlee


"...as they look for defensive upgrades."

Quick somebody burn the tape from the Bulls game.

Why hello Sacto, you've reached Mitch Kupchak's offense. Sure, we do have defensive ace Mason Plumlee available for an incredibly reasonable price. Now normally we'd ask for more, but since we want to help a fellow small-market team we'll let this lockdown extraordinaire go for just one unprotected 1st.

(Honestly I'd just put Cliff on the phone and let him rave about how awesome Plumdog has been on D. He'll sound incredibly convincing because he actually believes that ****)
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #5 

Post#126 » by Lwcasu » Sun Feb 5, 2023 10:36 pm

JDR720 wrote:https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/270288/Kings-Interested-In-Mason-Plumlee


Is there a trade where we can send Plumlee and Bouk and get back Davion Mitchell * Richaun Holmes and for taking Richauns contract also receive draft consideration. I’m a fan of Davion”s game.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #5 

Post#127 » by JDR720 » Sun Feb 5, 2023 10:41 pm

Maybe. Mitchell is bad on offensive, but he can defend. Although if we take Holmes that means Nick is leaving or I assume so.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #5 

Post#128 » by Diop » Sun Feb 5, 2023 10:56 pm

Rozier for Jo Harris and a 1st?
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #5 

Post#129 » by Bassman » Sun Feb 5, 2023 11:06 pm

JDR720 wrote:Maybe. Mitchell is bad on offensive, but he can defend. Although if we take Holmes that means Nick is leaving or I assume so.


I’ve wanted Richaun Holmes for a while, so would like to get him here. Mark Williams will become our starting center, but still think Holmes would provide strong play at the 4 or 5. It would be a fresh start for Holmes here (if we’d keep him). His production off the bench this year doesn’t seem inspired, but a lot of teams are interested in him if he ultimately gets waived.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #5 

Post#130 » by Braggins » Mon Feb 6, 2023 12:02 am

Nick Richards has better size than Holmes and probably will cost about the same. The organization is already familiar with Richards and hes also younger, so theyd probably be better off just keeping him as Williams backup.

Terence Davis is on the last year of his deal and you can add one of their other end of bench player salaries to get enough to match Plumlee. TD likely won't be in their regular playoff rotation, but hes a depth piece they do use from time to time, so it is a small cost to lose him, but I would think a player with Plumlees size that fits their system would be more necessary for them in the playoffs since they don't actually have any other options that fit there.

TD is a decent player to give some minutes to close out the season and maybe resign on a super cheap deal. If they threw in a decent second or two I don't see any reason not to do a swap like that.

Terence Davis + Alex Len + 2023 IND 2nd + 2025 POR 2nd for Mason Plumlee + 2023 BOS 2nd + 2024 BOS 2nd
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #5 

Post#131 » by Goodecharlotte » Mon Feb 6, 2023 12:38 am

At least with Kyrie going to the Mavs now the Lakers are still available to take Rozier off our hands for a 1st. Looking forward to trade deadline day to see what Mitch doesn't do lol
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #5 

Post#132 » by Rich4114 » Mon Feb 6, 2023 1:30 am

Lwcasu wrote:
JDR720 wrote:https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/270288/Kings-Interested-In-Mason-Plumlee


Is there a trade where we can send Plumlee and Bouk and get back Davion Mitchell * Richaun Holmes and for taking Richauns contract also receive draft consideration. I’m a fan of Davion”s game.


I’m a big fan of what he brings as a backup PG. defensively he is one of the best. And when he plays us he can’t miss on offense so maybe being here would up his shooting %’s
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #5 

Post#133 » by Bassman » Mon Feb 6, 2023 1:48 am

Braggins wrote:Nick Richards has better size than Holmes and probably will cost about the same. The organization is already familiar with Richards and hes also younger, so theyd probably be better off just keeping him as Williams backup.

Terence Davis is on the last year of his deal and you can add one of their other end of bench player salaries to get enough to match Plumlee. TD likely won't be in their regular playoff rotation, but hes a depth piece they do use from time to time, so it is a small cost to lose him, but I would think a player with Plumlees size that fits their system would be more necessary for them in the playoffs since they don't actually have any other options that fit there.

TD is a decent player to give some minutes to close out the season and maybe resign on a super cheap deal. If they threw in a decent second or two I don't see any reason not to do a swap like that.

Terence Davis + Alex Len + 2023 IND 2nd + 2025 POR 2nd for Mason Plumlee + 2023 BOS 2nd + 2024 BOS 2nd


What if we see Holmes as our PF verses at the 5? PJ isn’t exactly locking in confidence toward a future here, especially if he wants bigger $. Could see a secondary trade of PJ with or without Rozier, for other assets. How would Holmes and Williams work as a front line, especially if we do bring Miles back at the 3?
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #5 

Post#134 » by Liver_Pooty » Mon Feb 6, 2023 1:58 am

Holmes is garbage
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #5 

Post#135 » by MPM » Mon Feb 6, 2023 2:49 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:Holmes is garbage


This.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #5 

Post#136 » by Liver_Pooty » Mon Feb 6, 2023 3:03 am

Holmes isn't even as good as plumlee and off the top of my head he makes like 11 or 12 million a year for the next 2 or 3 years. There is no way in hell I'd trade plumlee for him.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #5 

Post#137 » by Bassman » Mon Feb 6, 2023 4:06 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:Holmes is garbage


I disagree. Holmes has been stuck playing the 5, where he had some decent success, when he is more naturally a PF. Granted he might struggle against quick rangy lightweight 4’s, but his size and agility would bring something our undersized PJ can’t provide.

His issues started with some personal problems via a divorce and the ex making outrageous accusations. It took some time but that (abuse of his kids) was finally disproven. He now has custody of his kids. He had some injury issues (nothing major). All this led to less playing time. At 29 he is still in his prime. When a starter he’s been a consistent 60+% FG shooter, 75+% FT, and is a capable 3 point shooter. He is a good defender, especially against the P&R. By all accounts he is a hard worker, dedicated, and a quality vet who could help this bunch of youngsters grow up.

I’d much prefer paying him $11M for the next few seasons than resigning PJ at the kind of money we’ve heard reports of. Deal some assortment of PJ, Rozier, Oubre et all for a quality 2 guard, start Williams & Holmes, get experience growing together, then bring Miles back for next season. Draft well (hopefully), have Nick backup the 5, Bridges starting at 3 but backs the 4 spot, with Gordon off the bench until he’s traded.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #5 

Post#138 » by Liver_Pooty » Mon Feb 6, 2023 4:43 am

Bassman wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:Holmes is garbage


I disagree. Holmes has been stuck playing the 5, where he had some decent success, when he is more naturally a PF. Granted he might struggle against quick rangy lightweight 4’s, but his size and agility would bring something our undersized PJ can’t provide.

His issues started with some personal problems via a divorce and the ex making outrageous accusations. It took some time but that (abuse of his kids) was finally disproven. He now has custody of his kids. He had some injury issues (nothing major). All this led to less playing time. At 29 he is still in his prime. When a starter he’s been a consistent 60+% FG shooter, 75+% FT, and is a capable 3 point shooter. He is a good defender, especially against the P&R. By all accounts he is a hard worker, dedicated, and a quality vet who could help this bunch of youngsters grow up.

I’d much prefer paying him $11M for the next few seasons than resigning PJ at the kind of money we’ve heard reports of. Deal some assortment of PJ, Rozier, Oubre et all for a quality 2 guard, start Williams & Holmes, get experience growing together, then bring Miles back for next season. Draft well (hopefully), have Nick backup the 5, Bridges starting at 3 but backs the 4 spot, with Gordon off the bench until he’s traded.


I respect your opinion, but I cannot disagree anymore. There is no way possible Holmes is a 4. I don't even like him as a 5 as a backup on that contract. I just disagree.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #5 

Post#139 » by Diop » Mon Feb 6, 2023 6:33 am

now that Brooklyn got another oversized ball handler:

Ben Simmons for Rozier and Plumlee.

I know this will anger plenty of you with the long contract, but i'm betting on Simmons improving.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #5 

Post#140 » by luciano-davidwesley » Mon Feb 6, 2023 6:52 am

Diop wrote:now that Brooklyn got another oversized ball handler:

Ben Simmons for Rozier and Plumlee.

I know this will anger plenty of you with the long contract, but i'm betting on Simmons improving.

I'm betting on Simmons being weak, whiny and a carcinogenic. No thanks. The guy is broken and doesn't care enough about basketball.

We may as well sign Kyrie in the offseason because those two are in their own league with their diva, crazy and selfish behaviour.

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