2022-23 Season Discussion and Speculation 4 - Trade season continues - No player trade restrictions

[lilfishi22]

:lol:

Jones out here alienating CP3 and yet another failed attempt to trade for a star player.

Let JJ cook before he gets his ass fired.

lol you complain about JJ not doing anything to try and bring in a star player and you complain when he makes an earnest effort to.

[TeamTragic]

Hold up, I thought you were mad they didn't 'try' like an hour ago.

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Let me ask you this WG. Would you trade CP3 for Kyrie?

I think Kyrie is a lunatic so I was never interested.

Earlier what did you think a suns package would look like? Because it was always going to be CP if.

To me IF and big IF that report is true it's not James Jones that I'm thinking about it the new owner. Because that's a new owner level decision and if true we have a wild man on our hands and **** going to get crazy around here.

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I was under the impression (per reports) that we were not moving CP3. Then this rumor pops up about CP3 being included in the trade and to be honest I was pretty shocked.

I mean does it matter at this point and I hope that CP3 was briefed because this could be an absolute disaster.

[TeamTragic]

:lol:

Jones out here alienating CP3 and yet another failed attempt to trade for a star player.

Let JJ cook before he gets his ass fired.

lol you complain about JJ not doing anything to try and bring in a star player and you complain when he makes an earnest effort to.

Once again CP3 or not JJ failed to acquire a star player.

What difference does it make when he didn't get Kyrie?

[lilfishi22]

:lol:

Jones out here alienating CP3 and yet another failed attempt to trade for a star player.

Let JJ cook before he gets his ass fired.

So, earlier you were mad because JJ didn't even do anything, and now you're mad that he did something but the Nets went another direction. I'm not the biggest fan of JJ, but you won't be happy with anything he does, clearly.

These are all rumors. Who knows what actually went down? Just because it's a tweet doesn't make it fact.

JJ just alienated CP3 and failed once again to trade for star player in the same transaction.

I'm just over here watching him get schooled by Cuban and Marks.

You know JJ is **** done when Matt takes over.

I'm like some sort of wizard

Also I just love how every time a trade goes down, like literally any trade, that doesn't involve the Suns, it's like the James Jones personally gift wrapped a championship to one of those teams by not being involved

[Cutter]

I just can't see Kyrie being happy playing with Luka long-term. Luka has such high usage, if you are a star you will end up standing around watching him ball hog and jack shots. Now there is no doubt that Luka is an elite player however, to me, he is in the Westbrook (prime) and Harden (prime) class of player, ball dominant and me centered player. Can't see Kyrie liking this situation over time.

[TeamTragic]

So, earlier you were mad because JJ didn't even do anything, and now you're mad that he did something but the Nets went another direction. I'm not the biggest fan of JJ, but you won't be happy with anything he does, clearly.

These are all rumors. Who knows what actually went down? Just because it's a tweet doesn't make it fact.

JJ just alienated CP3 and failed once again to trade for star player in the same transaction.

I'm just over here watching him get schooled by Cuban and Marks.

You know JJ is **** done when Matt takes over.

I'm like some sort of wizard

Also I just love how every time a trade goes down, like literally any trade, that doesn't involve the Suns, it's like the James Jones personally gift wrapped a championship to one of those teams by not being involved

JJ made an offer and included CP3 which took balls so yes I give him credit.

[lilfishi22]

:lol:

Jones out here alienating CP3 and yet another failed attempt to trade for a star player.

Let JJ cook before he gets his ass fired.

lol you complain about JJ not doing anything to try and bring in a star player and you complain when he makes an earnest effort to.

Once again CP3 or not JJ failed to acquire a star player.

What difference does it make when he didn't get Kyrie?

Schooled by Cuban, the guy who signed KP sight unseen to a max contract. Let Brunson walk for nothing and in desperation trades for the biggest head case in the NBA.

[TeamTragic]

lol you complain about JJ not doing anything to try and bring in a star player and you complain when he makes an earnest effort to.

Once again CP3 or not JJ failed to acquire a star player.

What difference does it make when he didn't get Kyrie?

Schooled by Cuban, the guy who signed KP sight unseen to a max contract. Let Brunson walk for nothing and in desperation trades for the biggest head case in the NBA.

- Cuban moved KP when he became injury prone which was the right decision
- Cuban got Dinwiddie who torched the SUNS which you should remember
- Cuban just moved two starters that torched the SUNS for a superstar (Kyrie)

Meanwhile JJ has to figure out what he is going to say to CP3 on Tuesday

[WeekapaugGroove]

Once again CP3 or not JJ failed to acquire a star player.

What difference does it make when he didn't get Kyrie?

Schooled by Cuban, the guy who signed KP sight unseen to a max contract. Let Brunson walk for nothing and in desperation trades for the biggest head case in the NBA.

Cuban moved KP when it didn't workout (and picked up Dinwiddie) meanwhile JJ just lets a starter sit at home while getting paid.

Cuban just moved two starters that torched the SUNS for a superstar meanwhile JJ jas top figure out what he is going to say to CP3 on Tuesday

Well you should probably replace JJ with Mat in your ire because this level of move is absolutely at that level not something a GM is doing independently.

If that report is true, like I was saying earlier then hold on to your butts because Mat is a wild man.

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[lilfishi22]

Not sure how trading Kyrie for high end role players signals that the Nets are going to move KD. If anything it seems to hit the point home that they're trying to remain competitive with KD in tow.

KD didn't join the Nets because he thought they could build around him. He joined the Nets because he thought they could build around him and Kyrie. It's a different calculus now that package deal is no longer. Not saying he's guaranteed to be traded before the deadline or necessarily this offseason but I would be surprised if the Nets doesn't receive enough decent offers to let him go elsewhere. Even KD himself has kinda burned some bridges in Brooklyn too with his "trade me" demand this offseason.

I mean KD is quite a wild card himself so him asking out cant be ruled out I suppose (though we see how that went last time). But the Nets FO haa demonstrated they're trying to win, and that is made much easier with KD on the roster. I dunno, obviously I'm no prophet and could easily be proven wrong but to me the 'evidence' leans much more toward them keeping him than trying to move him.

Again, I don't think it's about a desire for the Nets to trade him. It's about KD no longer being happy there. Kyrie might have been a crappy partner and certainly not the guy he thought he was partnering up with but by most reports KD still liked and supported Kyrie. With Kyrie now gone, what's tying him to the same franchise he requested a trade from like 5 months ago?

I don't think he gets moved this trade deadline and he might not even be traded this offseason but unless the Nets can perform a minor miracle to bring in a legit 2nd star to pair with KD, I just don't see KD having the same motivation or the physical and mental strength to carry a team on his own again.

[lilfishi22]

Once again CP3 or not JJ failed to acquire a star player.

What difference does it make when he didn't get Kyrie?

Schooled by Cuban, the guy who signed KP sight unseen to a max contract. Let Brunson walk for nothing and in desperation trades for the biggest head case in the NBA.

- Cuban moved KP when it didn't work out because he knew it was the right decision
- Cuban got Dinwiddie who torched the SUNS
- Cuban just moved two starters that torched the SUNS for a superstar

Meanwhile JJ has to figure out what he is going to say to CP3 on Tuesday

- Suns Finals run

Let's talk again when Luka/Kyrie gets there

[matt131]

From Shams on the Athletic

“The Suns are known as a potential suitor for Toronto Raptors guard Fred VanVleet, but once Irving became available, Phoenix shifted its focus to the Irving market.

Phoenix offered a package around Paul, Jae Crowder and one first-round pick, sources said. The offer was made within the first 18 hours of Irving’s trade request, and it’s believed that three first-round picks could have clinched a deal, multiple league sources said. However, the Suns never added those picks and failed to make a better offer, beginning to lose interest in a trade for Irving as time went on.

The Suns are expected to be incredibly active over the next several days to add to the roster, as Ishbia is expected to be a resourceful, open-minded team owner.”

[lilfishi22]

From Shams on the Athletic

“The Suns are known as a potential suitor for Toronto Raptors guard Fred VanVleet, but once Irving became available, Phoenix shifted its focus to the Irving market.

Phoenix offered a package around Paul, Jae Crowder and one first-round pick, sources said. The offer was made within the first 18 hours of Irving’s trade request, and it’s believed that three first-round picks could have clinched a deal, multiple league sources said. However, the Suns never added those picks and failed to make a better offer, beginning to lose interest in a trade for Irving as time went on.

The Suns are expected to be incredibly active over the next several days to add to the roster, as Ishbia is expected to be a resourceful, open-minded team owner.”

Makes sense we didn't go over the top the try and trade for Kyrie.

[TeamTragic]

From Shams on the Athletic

“The Suns are known as a potential suitor for Toronto Raptors guard Fred VanVleet, but once Irving became available, Phoenix shifted its focus to the Irving market.

Phoenix offered a package around Paul, Jae Crowder and one first-round pick, sources said. The offer was made within the first 18 hours of Irving’s trade request, and it’s believed that three first-round picks could have clinched a deal, multiple league sources said. However, the Suns never added those picks and failed to make a better offer, beginning to lose interest in a trade for Irving as time went on.

The Suns are expected to be incredibly active over the next several days to add to the roster, as Ishbia is expected to be a resourceful, open-minded team owner.”

Awesome. JJ wouldn't match the other offers on picks because he values them SO much

[BobbieL]

Schooled by Cuban, the guy who signed KP sight unseen to a max contract. Let Brunson walk for nothing and in desperation trades for the biggest head case in the NBA.

Cuban moved KP when it didn't workout (and picked up Dinwiddie) meanwhile JJ just lets a starter sit at home while getting paid.

Cuban just moved two starters that torched the SUNS for a superstar meanwhile JJ jas top figure out what he is going to say to CP3 on Tuesday

Well you should probably replace JJ with Mat in your ire because this level of move is absolutely at that level not something a GM is doing independently.

If that report is true, like I was saying earlier then hold on to your butts because Mat is a wild man.

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Shams is reporting “…Suns offered CP3, Crowder and one FRP. Suns pivoted after 24 hours.,”
Shams expects Suns to be active

I wonder how Paul feels

[bwoolf2]

Once again CP3 or not JJ failed to acquire a star player.

What difference does it make when he didn't get Kyrie?

Schooled by Cuban, the guy who signed KP sight unseen to a max contract. Let Brunson walk for nothing and in desperation trades for the biggest head case in the NBA.

We will see the Luka led mavs haven't won ****, and now they are out a lot of assets Cuban better hope this works out or he is gonna be left with the cupboards bare

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[grumpysaddle]

I, for one, am super okay that the Suns didn't get the headcase that is Kyrie Irving. That is an amount of off-court chaos I want nowhere near the only team I watch. I think there are better moves out there, hopefully we find them over the next few days.

[TeamTragic]

Schooled by Cuban, the guy who signed KP sight unseen to a max contract. Let Brunson walk for nothing and in desperation trades for the biggest head case in the NBA.

- Cuban moved KP when it didn't work out because he knew it was the right decision
- Cuban got Dinwiddie who torched the SUNS
- Cuban just moved two starters that torched the SUNS for a superstar

Meanwhile JJ has to figure out what he is going to say to CP3 on Tuesday

- Suns Finals run

Let's talk again when Luka/Kyrie gets there

I mean I don't know because Mavs beat the SUNS last season. I guess we will see how far the SUNS get in the playoffs this season.

[Ghost of Kleine]

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[bwoolf2]

Cuban moved KP when it didn't workout (and picked up Dinwiddie) meanwhile JJ just lets a starter sit at home while getting paid.

Cuban just moved two starters that torched the SUNS for a superstar meanwhile JJ jas top figure out what he is going to say to CP3 on Tuesday

Well you should probably replace JJ with Mat in your ire because this level of move is absolutely at that level not something a GM is doing independently.

If that report is true, like I was saying earlier then hold on to your butts because Mat is a wild man.

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Shams is reporting “…Suns offered CP3, Crowder and one FRP. Suns pivoted after 24 hours.,”
Shams expects Suns to be active

I wonder how Paul feels

Likely cp3 last year can't worry about his feelings here he has to know we make that trade, and if not we move him.