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Post#181 » by Apz » Mon Feb 6, 2023 4:21 am

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Teffer10 wrote:Wondering what we can get for Luka now...doubt he'll make it to the end of the season before demanding a trade.


Tatum would be my wish, but having Irving here kills that

That's the problem....Irving kills about any kind of chemistry.
This was the worst possible thing the FO could do to retain Luka.
I hope like hell they don't resign this guy or Luka will definitely be gone.


But it was ran by luka, and he signed on to the trade. So luka will be upset because he made a bad decision?

I personally dislike irving and the trade, but those posts about luka leaving because irving is coming when he were part of the decision feels like overreactions. If it doesnt work luka can have him traded, we just saw suns offer 3 1sts and such
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Post#182 » by 41Dirk41 » Mon Feb 6, 2023 4:24 am

Holmes before the city should be a decent pick up... Or a switchable PF.
I don't think that a big C is a good option, in the PO they are unplayables unless they are called Embiid or Jokic.
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Post#183 » by 41Dirk41 » Mon Feb 6, 2023 4:30 am

daoneandonly wrote:
Teffer10 wrote:
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Nico sucks, he has 2 of the worst already.

But all three 3J trades in the 90s were also horrific

Wondering what we can get for Luka now...doubt he'll make it to the end of the season before demanding a trade.


Tatum would be my wish, but having Irving here kills that


Tatum???? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Are you serious? Boston is a real contender, no way he will have signed with us and no way Boston trade him for that package.
Stop cry, you called yourself a "Real Mavs fan" so support the team! They make a push for a real superstar finally :wink:
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Post#184 » by Teffer10 » Mon Feb 6, 2023 4:32 am

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Teffer10 wrote:
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Tatum would be my wish, but having Irving here kills that

That's the problem....Irving kills about any kind of chemistry.
This was the worst possible thing the FO could do to retain Luka.
I hope like hell they don't resign this guy or Luka will definitely be gone.


But it was ran by luka, and he signed on to the trade. So luka will be upset because he made a bad decision?

I personally dislike irving and the trade, but those posts about luka leaving because irving is coming when he were part of the decision feels like overreactions. If it doesnt work luka can have him traded, we just saw suns offer 3 1sts and such

Luka might not fully understand what he is wishing for.
I get the whole "lets get a star at all costs" panic, but it has to be for someone somewhat compatible.
He'll just have to learn this lesson the hard way.

If we can dump this nut for 3 1sts, then kudos to Nico.
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Post#185 » by 41Dirk41 » Mon Feb 6, 2023 4:37 am

Teffer10 wrote:
Apz wrote:
Teffer10 wrote:That's the problem....Irving kills about any kind of chemistry.
This was the worst possible thing the FO could do to retain Luka.
I hope like hell they don't resign this guy or Luka will definitely be gone.


But it was ran by luka, and he signed on to the trade. So luka will be upset because he made a bad decision?

I personally dislike irving and the trade, but those posts about luka leaving because irving is coming when he were part of the decision feels like overreactions. If it doesnt work luka can have him traded, we just saw suns offer 3 1sts and such

Luka might not fully understand what he is wishing for.
I get the whole "lets get a star at all costs" panic, but it has to be for someone somewhat compatible.
He'll just have to learn this lesson the hard way.


Probably you are right, but what have we lost? 2role players? Wow.

If Kyrie will not works next summer we can sign another max player.

This core was done.
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Post#186 » by Teffer10 » Mon Feb 6, 2023 4:38 am

41Dirk41 wrote:
daoneandonly wrote:
Teffer10 wrote:Wondering what we can get for Luka now...doubt he'll make it to the end of the season before demanding a trade.


Tatum would be my wish, but having Irving here kills that


Tatum???? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Are you serious? Boston is a real contender, no way he will have signed with us and no way Boston trade him for that package.
Stop cry, you called yourself a "Real Mavs fan" so support the team! They make a push for a real superstar finally :wink:

You might think all of us should be jubilant, but some of us wouldn't do cartwheels and backflips after receiving the news of having cancer.

Leopards don't change their spots so why would anyone be so naive to think this nucklehead will ever become anything other than what he has been.
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Post#187 » by Teffer10 » Mon Feb 6, 2023 4:46 am

41Dirk41 wrote:
Teffer10 wrote:
Apz wrote:
But it was ran by luka, and he signed on to the trade. So luka will be upset because he made a bad decision?

I personally dislike irving and the trade, but those posts about luka leaving because irving is coming when he were part of the decision feels like overreactions. If it doesnt work luka can have him traded, we just saw suns offer 3 1sts and such

Luka might not fully understand what he is wishing for.
I get the whole "lets get a star at all costs" panic, but it has to be for someone somewhat compatible.
He'll just have to learn this lesson the hard way.


Probably you are right, but what have we lost? 2role players? Wow.

If Kyrie will not works next summer we can sign another max player.

This core was done.

Like they are all lining up to sign in Dallas like they always have.
And that draft pick will most likely be a lotto pick after Luka leaves.

I'm very rarely negative on this board but I can't get positive just to be positive over something this ridiculous when it is clearly obvious that a train wreck is about to happen...clearly.

Fans on this board were all giddy over Odom, Rondo, Noel and some others but those disasters were nothing compared to the fiasco this will be. Trust Teffer on this one ;)
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Post#188 » by HMFFL » Mon Feb 6, 2023 4:50 am

41Dirk41 wrote:Holmes before the city should be a decent pick up... Or a switchable PF.
I don't think that a big C is a good option, in the PO they are unplayables unless they are called Embiid or Jokic.
The playoffs haven't worked out for Embiid or Jokic. The league allows Jokic to be bullied in the playoffs and don't call enough fouls in his favor.

Anyways, Bobby Portis would be perfect for us, but he's probably not available. However, is there even another player similar to what Bobby does?

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Post#189 » by arkuo » Mon Feb 6, 2023 5:01 am

Teffer10 wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:
Teffer10 wrote:Luka might not fully understand what he is wishing for.
I get the whole "lets get a star at all costs" panic, but it has to be for someone somewhat compatible.
He'll just have to learn this lesson the hard way.


Probably you are right, but what have we lost? 2role players? Wow.

If Kyrie will not works next summer we can sign another max player.

This core was done.

Like they are all lining up to sign in Dallas like they always have.
And that draft pick will most likely be a lotto pick after Luka leaves.

I'm very rarely negative on this board but I can't get positive just to be positive over something this ridiculous when it is clearly obvious that a train wreck is about to happen...clearly.

Fans on this board were all giddy over Odom, Rondo, Noel and some others but those disasters were nothing compared to the fiasco this will be. Trust Teffer on this one ;)


Dinwiddie was never gonna get another large contract in Dallas. Let's be real. So him walking in 2024 was in the cards. Him, Bertans, Bullock. I dont see those guys getting another contract of the same amount in Dallas. So the plan is eventually going to be signing someone else.

We cant cry about losing Dinwiddie and DFS, and also cry about not getting talent on board. You gotta pick a side. If you dont get Kyrie this summer, who do you have in mind you can sign outright and/or trade Dinwiddie for? Let's see your list.
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Post#190 » by dirkules_41 » Mon Feb 6, 2023 5:02 am

Teffer10 wrote:Ball dominate 23yo superstar plus ball dominate nut equals perpetual conflict and frustration.
Good Grief Nico...Good Grief!!!

He played with 2016 Lebron and won a chip including the key points in the finals, doesn't get any closer to Luka in playing style.
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Post#191 » by arkuo » Mon Feb 6, 2023 5:04 am

Teffer10 wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:
daoneandonly wrote:
Tatum would be my wish, but having Irving here kills that


Tatum???? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Are you serious? Boston is a real contender, no way he will have signed with us and no way Boston trade him for that package.
Stop cry, you called yourself a "Real Mavs fan" so support the team! They make a push for a real superstar finally :wink:

You might think all of us should be jubilant, but some of us wouldn't do cartwheels and backflips after receiving the news of having cancer.

Leopards don't change their spots so why would anyone be so naive to think this nucklehead will ever become anything other than what he has been.


The risk of Kyrie walking in the summer was okay to rhe guy signing his $37M check. He's pretty good with it, and we're complaining? Does not cost us a single cent.

If it's okay to the guy paying for it, then it's okay. It's his money.
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Post#192 » by 41Dirk41 » Mon Feb 6, 2023 5:05 am

Teffer10 wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:
Teffer10 wrote:Luka might not fully understand what he is wishing for.
I get the whole "lets get a star at all costs" panic, but it has to be for someone somewhat compatible.
He'll just have to learn this lesson the hard way.


Probably you are right, but what have we lost? 2role players? Wow.

If Kyrie will not works next summer we can sign another max player.

This core was done.

Like they are all lining up to sign in Dallas like they always have.
And that draft pick will most likely be a lotto pick after Luka leaves.

I'm very rarely negative on this board but I can't get positive just to be positive over something this ridiculous when it is clearly obvious that a train wreck is about to happen...clearly.

Fans on this board were all giddy over Odom, Rondo, Noel and some others but those disasters were nothing compared to the fiasco this will be. Trust Teffer on this one ;)


I hope you are wrong my friend :D

But like i said, our situation was desperate because in 5 years they didn't built nothing.
With our small assets we can only take a risky superstar...
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Post#193 » by dirkules_41 » Mon Feb 6, 2023 5:06 am

Teffer10 wrote:Just read this and immediately threw-up.
You've got to be kidding.....good bye Luka.

Lol? Are you for real? Kyrie is certainly questionable as a package but as a player this is the best player not named Dirk or Luka to ever wear a Mavs uniform hands down.
Luka clearly would've had to agree to this deal and let's be honest - continuing on the path we were on with this roster full of mediocre role players would've been the fastest and safest way for Luka to ask out. At least this gives us a chance.
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Post#194 » by arkuo » Mon Feb 6, 2023 5:10 am

Mavs now have two players playing in the all star game.

Heh. I didnt think I'd live long enough to see that happen.

Time will tell if it was a good move. To win in the NBA you gotta take risks. There was never a safe and sure way to a championship. The risk just varies from city to city. But that's present in every transaction. Mavs just took a big swing with this one.
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Post#195 » by arkuo » Mon Feb 6, 2023 5:16 am

Props to Nico for having the balls to risk it all. Because if it doesnt work out, it's his head.

Most 1st year GMs (with no NBA GM experience) would play it safe and try to keep their jobs.
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Post#196 » by DeRoma » Mon Feb 6, 2023 5:26 am

Guys GL with Ky, ejoy the beginning cause he is one of the most flashiest player you'll ever witness. However he is like eating a very spicy burrito. The eating part is sooo good but when it hurts like a mf when you're about to poop
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Post#197 » by Teffer10 » Mon Feb 6, 2023 5:28 am

dirkules_41 wrote:
Teffer10 wrote:Just read this and immediately threw-up.
You've got to be kidding.....good bye Luka.

Lol? Are you for real? Kyrie is certainly questionable as a package but as a player this is the best player not named Dirk or Luka to ever wear a Mavs uniform hands down.
Luka clearly would've had to agree to this deal and let's be honest - continuing on the path we were on with this roster full of mediocre role players would've been the fastest and safest way for Luka to ask out. At least this gives us a chance.

Questionable????
There is no question the dude is a complete nutcase and a huge wrecking ball.

You can't win with Durant and Harden, there is something seriously wrong you.
This is not the right person to pair with a young superstar, and I can't believe Mavs fans are drinking the kool aid thinking he's going to be inspiring and do something positive for this team.

Let's only hope that Nico can salvage this mess he has created and parlay him into useful assets in the off season.
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Post#198 » by Teffer10 » Mon Feb 6, 2023 5:29 am

DeRoma wrote:Guys GL with Ky, ejoy the beginning cause he is one of the most flashiest player you'll ever witness. However he is like eating a very spicy burrito. The eating part is sooo good but when it hurts like a mf when you're about to poop

Yep...and the reason I'm having a hard time swallowing this.
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Post#199 » by DeRoma » Mon Feb 6, 2023 5:33 am

sashaturiaf wrote:I think it's a good trade for you guys. In hindsight I think retaining Brunson would have been the ideal play but Kyrie still is a level above Brunson as a player and is more playoff tested.


The thing about Kyrie is he will show up when it's playoff time. I like his fit on the Mavs better than on the nets in that Luka is young and sturdy enough to be a workhorse in the regular season and let Kyrie comfortably hover around the 50-60 games played mark. At the Nets he didn't have that luxury since KD is physically frail himself.

The other thing is in Cuban and Doncic you have a team culture which I think is strong enough to withstand some Kyrie antics, they'll be seen as sideshows whereas on the Nets, everything Kyrie does gets amplified since we have no stability as an organisation. There is a reason we've had to deal with 3 trade requests in one year.

What are you saying? He did the same thing in Boston and that's one best culture in the NBA.
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Post#200 » by Teffer10 » Mon Feb 6, 2023 5:35 am

41Dirk41 wrote:
Teffer10 wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:
Probably you are right, but what have we lost? 2role players? Wow.

If Kyrie will not works next summer we can sign another max player.

This core was done.

Like they are all lining up to sign in Dallas like they always have.
And that draft pick will most likely be a lotto pick after Luka leaves.

I'm very rarely negative on this board but I can't get positive just to be positive over something this ridiculous when it is clearly obvious that a train wreck is about to happen...clearly.

Fans on this board were all giddy over Odom, Rondo, Noel and some others but those disasters were nothing compared to the fiasco this will be. Trust Teffer on this one ;)


I hope you are wrong my friend :D

But like i said, our situation was desperate because in 5 years they didn't built nothing.
With our small assets we can only take a risky superstar...

I'll be the first to eat crow if Kyrie serves it up to me, but humans don't change who they are, and he certainly won't change for a team that he didn't want to play for in the first place.
It wasn't like he was clamoring to come here.

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