Kyrie Irving, Markieff Morris to Mavs for DFS, Spence, 2029 1st and 2027 and 2029 2nds

[dirkules_41]

Just read this and immediately threw-up.
You've got to be kidding.....good bye Luka.

Lol? Are you for real? Kyrie is certainly questionable as a package but as a player this is the best player not named Dirk or Luka to ever wear a Mavs uniform hands down.
Luka clearly would've had to agree to this deal and let's be honest - continuing on the path we were on with this roster full of mediocre role players would've been the fastest and safest way for Luka to ask out. At least this gives us a chance.

Questionable????
There is no question the dude is a complete nutcase and a huge wrecking ball.

You can't win with Durant and Harden, there is something seriously wrong you.
This is not the right person to pair with a young superstar, and I can't believe Mavs fans are drinking the kool aid thinking he's going to be inspiring and do something positive for this team.

Let's only hope that Nico can salvage this mess he has created and parlay him into useful assets in the off season.

Harden hasn't won a single thing in his life so far and Kyrie did play a massive role in Lebrons 2016 CLE title. So not sure I'm following that logic.

I also haven't seen anyone here "drinking the kool aid and thinking he's going to be inspiring" - nobody is asking for that. But we traded a good player, an average player from a historically bad lineup and a pick 6 years away for a perennial All-NBA level player. Even if he comes with a straight jacket this is worth a roll of the dice.

[kacey ring]

So what jersey number is Kyrie going to rock? THJ has 11.

Maybe he’s going back to 2? Would be a good reminder to him where he stands in the pecking order.

[old skool]

Kyrie will turn 31 next month. In the last five seasons his team has missed the playoffs twice, is 11-11 in playoff games and 2-3 in payoff series.

[Teffer10]

Lol? Are you for real? Kyrie is certainly questionable as a package but as a player this is the best player not named Dirk or Luka to ever wear a Mavs uniform hands down.
Luka clearly would've had to agree to this deal and let's be honest - continuing on the path we were on with this roster full of mediocre role players would've been the fastest and safest way for Luka to ask out. At least this gives us a chance.

Questionable????
There is no question the dude is a complete nutcase and a huge wrecking ball.

You can't win with Durant and Harden, there is something seriously wrong you.
This is not the right person to pair with a young superstar, and I can't believe Mavs fans are drinking the kool aid thinking he's going to be inspiring and do something positive for this team.

Let's only hope that Nico can salvage this mess he has created and parlay him into useful assets in the off season.

Harden hasn't won a single thing in his life so far and Kyrie did play a massive role in Lebrons 2016 CLE title. So not sure I'm following that logic.

I also haven't seen anyone here "drinking the kool aid and thinking he's going to be inspiring" - nobody is asking for that. But we traded a good player, an average player from a historically bad lineup and a pick 6 years away for a perennial All-NBA level player. Even if he comes with a straight jacket this is worth a roll of the dice.

OMG...there are only about 3 of us on this board who are NOT drinking the kool aid. Nearly everyone else sees this guy as the knight in shining armor coming in to save the season and completely ignoring the negatives that are most likely going to happen.

This dude has been a complete team cancer everywhere he has been and people on here think he'll do a complete 180 on a team that he didn't even want to play for.

[41Dirk41]

Like they are all lining up to sign in Dallas like they always have.
And that draft pick will most likely be a lotto pick after Luka leaves.

I'm very rarely negative on this board but I can't get positive just to be positive over something this ridiculous when it is clearly obvious that a train wreck is about to happen...clearly.

Fans on this board were all giddy over Odom, Rondo, Noel and some others but those disasters were nothing compared to the fiasco this will be. Trust Teffer on this one

I hope you are wrong my friend

But like i said, our situation was desperate because in 5 years they didn't built nothing.
With our small assets we can only take a risky superstar...

I'll be the first to eat crow if Kyrie serves it up to me, but humans don't change who they are, and he certainly won't change for a team that he didn't want to play for in the first place.
It wasn't like he was clamoring to come here.

Probably this is his last opportunity to play for the ring, if he will fail here too no good team will ever sign him.

Probably playing basketball isn't his first thought right now, you are right. We will see.

Without any moves this team was a play in squad.

We passed too many good trade in the past (Bojan, Markaneen ecc ecc) and Luka time is almost over... The bigger mistakes was made years ago.

[Teffer10]

I hope you are wrong my friend

But like i said, our situation was desperate because in 5 years they didn't built nothing.
With our small assets we can only take a risky superstar...

I'll be the first to eat crow if Kyrie serves it up to me, but humans don't change who they are, and he certainly won't change for a team that he didn't want to play for in the first place.
It wasn't like he was clamoring to come here.

Probably this is his last opportunity to play for the ring, if he will fail here too no good team will ever sign him.

Probably playing basketball isn't his first thought right now, you are right. We will see.

Without any moves this team was a play in squad.

We passed too many good trade in the past (Bojan, Markaneen ecc ecc) and Luka time is almost over... The bigger mistakes was made years ago.

I just hope we can S&T him to a team that will give up assets.
Each year that passes, and each mess he leaves behind, will diminish his value so I doubt if we'll get much for him.
I'm not sure he will move the needle as much as everyone thinks considering how bad of a fit he will be, and the baggage that he brings. Just not a good influence for Luka in my opinion and probably not a good fit. Both need the ball in their hands to be most effective and I just don't see this working.
Very seldom do two ball dominating superstar caliber alphas mesh well together and I'd be absolutely shocked if it happens in this case.

I liked Spence and Brunson because they didn't mind playing 2nd fiddle to Luka, but there is no way Kyrie will be that accommodating.

[Maverick41]

I'm cautiously optimistic about this trade. I do not like Kyrie and do not look forward to the drama that will inevitably ensue because of him. But I realize his talent and it is undisputedly that of a top 10-20ish player on any given day. He significantly raises the ceiling for what this team can do this year and the following year (barring he resigns).

Will it work out long term? More then likely not since his personality is as volatile as it gets and he's not exactly young. I'm looking at him as a star mercenary right now rather then a long term piece. But my hope is that it can work out for at least 2 or 3 years where we are then rid of bad contracts (THJ, Bertans, etc.) and are then able to have a cleaner cap sheet and build a more cohesive team around a then 25-26 year old Luka entering his prime.

[dirkules_41]

Questionable????
There is no question the dude is a complete nutcase and a huge wrecking ball.

You can't win with Durant and Harden, there is something seriously wrong you.
This is not the right person to pair with a young superstar, and I can't believe Mavs fans are drinking the kool aid thinking he's going to be inspiring and do something positive for this team.

Let's only hope that Nico can salvage this mess he has created and parlay him into useful assets in the off season.

Harden hasn't won a single thing in his life so far and Kyrie did play a massive role in Lebrons 2016 CLE title. So not sure I'm following that logic.

I also haven't seen anyone here "drinking the kool aid and thinking he's going to be inspiring" - nobody is asking for that. But we traded a good player, an average player from a historically bad lineup and a pick 6 years away for a perennial All-NBA level player. Even if he comes with a straight jacket this is worth a roll of the dice.

OMG...there are only about 3 of us on this board who are NOT drinking the kool aid. Nearly everyone else sees this guy as the knight in shining armor coming in to save the season and completely ignoring the negatives that are most likely going to happen.

This dude has been a complete team cancer everywhere he has been and people on here think he'll do a complete 180 on a team that he didn't even want to play for.

I'm not drinking any kool aid. However he's a Mav now so why tf would I bury my head in the sand and run around screaming "OMG", that's not gonna rescind the trade. I just don't get this whole negativity approach - if it goes wrong it does. However until then it gives us a much better chance at actually moving this team forward and winning something tangible.

[dirkules_41]

I liked Spence and Brunson because they didn't mind playing 2nd fiddle to Luka, but there is no way Kyrie will be that accommodating.

I liked Spence and Brunson full stop. Great guys as people and nice players and sucks to not have them anymore. With that being said Kyrie has happily played second fiddle to Lebron and Durant already so I don't think that's a fair point.

[Revived]

Just read this and immediately threw-up.
You've got to be kidding.....good bye Luka.

Lol? Are you for real? Kyrie is certainly questionable as a package but as a player this is the best player not named Dirk or Luka to ever wear a Mavs uniform hands down.

[dirkules_41]

Just read this and immediately threw-up.
You've got to be kidding.....good bye Luka.

Lol? Are you for real? Kyrie is certainly questionable as a package but as a player this is the best player not named Dirk or Luka to ever wear a Mavs uniform hands down.

Love Nash but Kyrie has already won more titles and puts up better numbers and is a respectable defender unlike the Nash we had.

[dirkules_41]

https://www.espn.com/fantasy/basketball/story/_/id/35594752/mens-fantasy-basketball-impact-kyrie-irving-trade-dallas-mavericks-brooklyn-nets-nba-luka-doncic-kevin-durant

This article is a great overview of the basketball side of things, where the trade is really an A+++ as someone else called it.

[arkuo]

I think it's a good trade for you guys. In hindsight I think retaining Brunson would have been the ideal play but Kyrie still is a level above Brunson as a player and is more playoff tested.


The thing about Kyrie is he will show up when it's playoff time. I like his fit on the Mavs better than on the nets in that Luka is young and sturdy enough to be a workhorse in the regular season and let Kyrie comfortably hover around the 50-60 games played mark. At the Nets he didn't have that luxury since KD is physically frail himself.

The other thing is in Cuban and Doncic you have a team culture which I think is strong enough to withstand some Kyrie antics, they'll be seen as sideshows whereas on the Nets, everything Kyrie does gets amplified since we have no stability as an organisation. There is a reason we've had to deal with 3 trade requests in one year.

What are you saying? He did the same thing in Boston and that's one best culture in the NBA.

If Dallas is thinking then they'd use the black angle in Dallas. Dallas is one of the few teams to employ a black GM, a black president and a black CEO. If Kyrie supports black rights and whatever community he has in mind, Dallas can use that to their advantage. Danny Ainge and Boston are white as hell. If Kyrie Irving was white, he'd actually get a pay raise in Boston LMAO.

[arkuo]

https://www.espn.com/fantasy/basketball/story/_/id/35594752/mens-fantasy-basketball-impact-kyrie-irving-trade-dallas-mavericks-brooklyn-nets-nba-luka-doncic-kevin-durant

This article is a great overview of the basketball side of things, where the trade is really an A+++ as someone else called it.

A lot of people take it at face value and call it a bad trafe without considering that Dinwiddie was not going to even be in Dallas too long and the absolute worst case is you traded him for an expiring contract.

Like I said, the actual guy who will sign the 37 million dollar check was happy to do it. How can armchair GMs call it a bad trade when the guy footing the actual bill was clearly okay with it.

[arkuo]

Lol? Are you for real? Kyrie is certainly questionable as a package but as a player this is the best player not named Dirk or Luka to ever wear a Mavs uniform hands down.

Love Nash but Kyrie has already won more titles and puts up better numbers and is a respectable defender unlike the Nash we had.

Kyrie has better street cred among NBA circles. Only the fans bash him but just look at Jayson Tatum. The narrative that ESPN and fans are pushing is Kyrie supposedly left those guys hanging in Boston. But Tatum keeps hugging Kyrie like a long lost girlfriend everytime they see each other.

And like I said, the absolute worst case is acceptable. What's there to cry about?

[dirkules_41]

Love Nash but Kyrie has already won more titles and puts up better numbers and is a respectable defender unlike the Nash we had.

Kyrie has better street cred among NBA circles. Only the fans bash him but just look at Jayson Tatum. The narrative that ESPN and fans are pushing is Kyrie supposedly left those guys hanging in Boston. But Tatum keeps hugging Kyrie like a long lost girlfriend everytime they see each other.

And like I said, the absolute worst case is acceptable. What's there to cry about?

I think the last month or so has been about the least watchable Mavs basketball I can remember. Something had to happen. This is a swing for the fences but if we hit it takes the Mavs to a whole new level and there's a decent chance we hit.

[oldshoolballer]

I don't know whether to congratulate you guys or feel sorry for you. Kyrie is the ultimate wild card. When he's mentally focused one of the best players in the game no question. But he's extremely unpredictable mentally you could also wish he never became a Mav. My take: he's worth the risk. Mavs weren't winning the title as the team was constructed. Luka/Kyrie have a legit shot at the title in a very weak NBA. Good luck guys.

[arkuo]

I have a very unpopular opinion. But since the Mavs are already swinging for the fences here, why not try to pry Lebron away from the Lakers next year when Lebron has a player option in 2024 or is UFA in 2025. LMAO Lebron can both chase rings and by Kyrie's therapist in between timeouts. LMAO!!!!

[dirkules_41]

I have a very unpopular opinion. But since the Mavs are already swinging for the fences here, why not try to pry Lebron away from the Lakers next year when Lebron has a player option in 2024 or is UFA in 2025. LMAO Lebron can both chase rings and by Kyrie's therapist in between timeouts. LMAO!!!!

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Well he's definitely not pleased with the Lakers rn.

[arkuo]

I have a very unpopular opinion. But since the Mavs are already swinging for the fences here, why not try to pry Lebron away from the Lakers next year when Lebron has a player option in 2024 or is UFA in 2025. LMAO Lebron can both chase rings and by Kyrie's therapist in between timeouts. LMAO!!!!

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Well he's definitely not pleased with the Lakers rn.

Kyrie needs to recruit LBJ to Dallas now. If anyone can talk LBJ on to it, it's Kyrie. Lebron keeps his ring chasing alive for his legacy, Lebron provides a good ballast to Kyrie's brain. He has the gravitas to keep Kyrie in check. And Mark, let's just say Mark Cuban would be happy to foot the bill if that happens.