Kyrie Irving, Markieff Morris to Mavs for DFS, Spence, 2029 1st and 2027 and 2029 2nds

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Anyone else noticed that an ever active in social media Luka Doncic is pretty quiet about the trade when the whole NBA has already commented on Twitter Facebook and Instagram? Luka knows what's up. FO is probably cooking up one more move prior to Thursday.

Apparently they are trying to move Wood. Nets didn't want him, they also offered him to LAC.... I don't understand why the hell are they trying to move a guy who perfectly managed to replace KP and is starting to look good on defense aswell. Plus, he's probably also way cheaper than KP.

[dirkules_41]

I'm not talking about the money, but what to do, if you give Kyrie a longterm contract and it doesn't work out? It's a gamble and like I said, in situation Mavs are, a gamble worth taking.

You trade him again, as we've just seen his insane on court abilities will always find a buyer and decent value return.

Every time is a little more difficult and Kyrie getting older for sure won't help either.

You're not wrong but he's 30/31 not 35, so I don't see this as a major issue for the next 2/3 years.

[arkuo]

Anyone else noticed that an ever active in social media Luka Doncic is pretty quiet about the trade when the whole NBA has already commented on Twitter Facebook and Instagram? Luka knows what's up. FO is probably cooking up one more move prior to Thursday.

Apparently they are trying to move Wood. Nets didn't want him, they also offered him to LAC.... I don't understand why the hell are they trying to move a guy who perfectly managed to replace KP and is starting to look good on defense aswell. Plus, he's probably also way cheaper than KP.

Maybe there's something happening behind the scenes that we dont see with Wood. His numbers say he's pretty good. But maybe Nico or Luka doesn't like him too much.


Pretty sure the initial offer was Dinwiddie + Wood and 1 FRP. Nets balked and asked DFS to be swapped with Wood. Nico doesnt like to be the guy that botched the Kyrie deal because he held out for DFS and his 7 points per game. So he had to give in.

Now their choices are keep Wood for a playoff run or find a Wood trade in like 2 days.

[daoneandonly]

Anyone else noticed that an ever active in social media Luka Doncic is pretty quiet about the trade when the whole NBA has already commented on Twitter Facebook and Instagram? Luka knows what's up. FO is probably cooking up one more move prior to Thursday.

Or maybe he knows it was a foolish move and was shocked Nico & Cuban presented such a stupid idea for him to sign off on. Same as the KP trade, no hardball. Tell nets its Dinwiddie/THJ/Pick or no deal, but no, lets trade our best wing defende ron a very reasonable deal

I guess Nico reads realgm and many of the offense only guys that post on here. Defense too hard, we no like, no come on boxscore

[Bob8]

Anyone else noticed that an ever active in social media Luka Doncic is pretty quiet about the trade when the whole NBA has already commented on Twitter Facebook and Instagram? Luka knows what's up. FO is probably cooking up one more move prior to Thursday.

Or maybe he knows it was a foolish move and was shocked Nico & Cuban presented such a stupid idea for him to sign off on. Same as the KP trade, no hardball. Tell nets its Dinwiddie/THJ/Pick or no deal, but no, lets trade our best wing defende ron a very reasonable deal

I guess Nico reads realgm and many of the offense only guys that post on here. Defense too hard, we no like, no come on boxscore

It seemed to you that Mavs D was much better, when DFS returned from injury?

[daoneandonly]

Anyone else noticed that an ever active in social media Luka Doncic is pretty quiet about the trade when the whole NBA has already commented on Twitter Facebook and Instagram? Luka knows what's up. FO is probably cooking up one more move prior to Thursday.

Or maybe he knows it was a foolish move and was shocked Nico & Cuban presented such a stupid idea for him to sign off on. Same as the KP trade, no hardball. Tell nets its Dinwiddie/THJ/Pick or no deal, but no, lets trade our best wing defende ron a very reasonable deal

I guess Nico reads realgm and many of the offense only guys that post on here. Defense too hard, we no like, no come on boxscore

It seemed to you that Mavs D was much better, when DFS returned from injury?

You like telling half the story for your narrative, go into politics. The Democrats here would love you

WHen DFS was out, Mavs played the bottom feeders of the NBA for a huge stretch, and still barely won those games.

[daoneandonly]

Anyone else noticed that an ever active in social media Luka Doncic is pretty quiet about the trade when the whole NBA has already commented on Twitter Facebook and Instagram? Luka knows what's up. FO is probably cooking up one more move prior to Thursday.

Apparently they are trying to move Wood. Nets didn't want him, they also offered him to LAC.... I don't understand why the hell are they trying to move a guy who perfectly managed to replace KP and is starting to look good on defense aswell. Plus, he's probably also way cheaper than KP.

Maybe there's something happening behind the scenes that we dont see with Wood. His numbers say he's pretty good. But maybe Nico or Luka doesn't like him too much.


Pretty sure the initial offer was Dinwiddie + Wood and 1 FRP. Nets balked and asked DFS to be swapped with Wood. Nico doesnt like to be the guy that botched the Kyrie deal because he held out for DFS and his 7 points per game. So he had to give in.

Now their choices are keep Wood for a playoff run or find a Wood trade in like 2 days.

Everyone knows that except people who see flashy offensive numbers and blocks. The guy is an immature bonehead, a journeyman for a reason. Having him and Kyrie in the same lockeroom is asinine.

[Bob8]

Or maybe he knows it was a foolish move and was shocked Nico & Cuban presented such a stupid idea for him to sign off on. Same as the KP trade, no hardball. Tell nets its Dinwiddie/THJ/Pick or no deal, but no, lets trade our best wing defende ron a very reasonable deal

I guess Nico reads realgm and many of the offense only guys that post on here. Defense too hard, we no like, no come on boxscore

It seemed to you that Mavs D was much better, when DFS returned from injury?

You like telling half the story for your narrative, go into politics. The Democrats here would love you

WHen DFS was out, Mavs played the bottom feeders of the NBA for a huge stretch, and still barely won those games.

I will give you the numbers for the whole season.

Defensive rating with DFS on court was 115, defensive rating when he was off court 113.1. On the other hand you have Josh Green with defensive rating 108.3 on court and 116.4 off court. It looks to me that replacing DFS with Josh shouldn't be that bad for Mavs.

[daoneandonly]

It seemed to you that Mavs D was much better, when DFS returned from injury?

You like telling half the story for your narrative, go into politics. The Democrats here would love you

WHen DFS was out, Mavs played the bottom feeders of the NBA for a huge stretch, and still barely won those games.

I will give you the numbers for the whole season.

Defensive rating with DFS on court was 115, defensive rating when he was off court 113.1. On the other hand you have Josh Green with defensive rating 108.3 on court and 116.4 off court. It looks to me that replacing DFS with Josh shouldn't be that bad for Mavs.

Again ratings for a guy playing starters vs ratings for a guy playing reserves. Typical liberal spins

[Bob8]

You like telling half the story for your narrative, go into politics. The Democrats here would love you

WHen DFS was out, Mavs played the bottom feeders of the NBA for a huge stretch, and still barely won those games.

I will give you the numbers for the whole season.

Defensive rating with DFS on court was 115, defensive rating when he was off court 113.1. On the other hand you have Josh Green with defensive rating 108.3 on court and 116.4 off court. It looks to me that replacing DFS with Josh shouldn't be that bad for Mavs.

Again ratings for a guy playing starters vs ratings for a guy playing reserves. Typical liberal spins

However you look, DFS didn't make Mavs playing good D, not his fault entirely, but crying about someone, who didn't help you that much is kinda funny. Josh is a lot younger and has more potential than DFS, so Mavs should be ok with that replacement. Problem is not replacing DFS, problem is how to upgrade nonexistent rim protection. For this trade to work they have to trade for someone, who can give you more than McGee and Powell in that department.

And when we talk about playing against reserves, why Dinwiddie couldn't run efficient offense, when Luka was off court?

[41Dirk41]

The beautiful crusades of daoneandonly... probably this one will end in my signature too

[Archx]

You like telling half the story for your narrative, go into politics. The Democrats here would love you

WHen DFS was out, Mavs played the bottom feeders of the NBA for a huge stretch, and still barely won those games.

I will give you the numbers for the whole season.

Defensive rating with DFS on court was 115, defensive rating when he was off court 113.1. On the other hand you have Josh Green with defensive rating 108.3 on court and 116.4 off court. It looks to me that replacing DFS with Josh shouldn't be that bad for Mavs.

Again ratings for a guy playing starters vs ratings for a guy playing reserves. Typical liberal spins

How did you manage to insert politics into all of this? Are you one of those angry republicans who have Trump's picture hanging on their wall lol?

Fact is, DFS is NOT a better defender this year than Green and had too many off games on offense to make up for his defense. He's also a very poor finisher around the rim and can barely dribble, unlike Green who is also 8 years younger. Mavs have to develop their own talent in order to progress and maybe create some future assests for themselves.

[Michaellam1987]

So what jersey number is Kyrie going to rock? THJ has 11.

Maybe he’s going back to 2? Would be a good reminder to him where he stands in the pecking order.

Let's hope some team will take THJ away from us and free out that 11 jersey to Kyrie:)

[dirkules_41]

Yeah with all due respect to DFS, he seems like a lovely guy and I will always appreciate his hustle coming in off the proverbial street and working his way into a solid starter but this year his shooting has been crap, defensively he's been pretty average and he hasn't hustled as much as he used to do. Josh should've taken many of his minutes a long time ago objectively speaking.

[Bob8]

I will give you the numbers for the whole season.

Defensive rating with DFS on court was 115, defensive rating when he was off court 113.1. On the other hand you have Josh Green with defensive rating 108.3 on court and 116.4 off court. It looks to me that replacing DFS with Josh shouldn't be that bad for Mavs.

Again ratings for a guy playing starters vs ratings for a guy playing reserves. Typical liberal spins

How did you manage to insert politics into all of this? Are you one of those angry republicans who have Trump's picture hanging on their wall lol?

Fact is, DFS is NOT a better defender this year than Green and had too many off games on offense to make up for his defense. He's also a very poor finisher around the rim and can barely dribble, unlike Green who is also 8 years younger. Mavs have to develop their own talent in order to progress and maybe create some future assests for themselves.

Mavs are made DFS available in trades only because Josh is providing more or less everything that DFS and having much higher upside.

[daoneandonly]

I will give you the numbers for the whole season.

Defensive rating with DFS on court was 115, defensive rating when he was off court 113.1. On the other hand you have Josh Green with defensive rating 108.3 on court and 116.4 off court. It looks to me that replacing DFS with Josh shouldn't be that bad for Mavs.

Again ratings for a guy playing starters vs ratings for a guy playing reserves. Typical liberal spins

How did you manage to insert politics into all of this? Are you one of those angry republicans who have Trump's picture hanging on their wall lol?

Fact is, DFS is NOT a better defender this year than Green and had too many off games on offense to make up for his defense. He's also a very poor finisher around the rim and can barely dribble, unlike Green who is also 8 years younger. Mavs have to develop their own talent in order to progress and maybe create some future assests for themselves.

Hilarious, got to love posters who laugh at their own jokes. No not a Trump guy, but not a baby killing liberla supporter like im sure many of the non Texas or even America for that matter" Mavs fans" are on this board

I dont understand why people kepe bringing Gren into this. Green and DFS can play at the same time because DFS is so versatile he can play the 4. No one else on this team can other than Maxi.

[dirkules_41]

Again ratings for a guy playing starters vs ratings for a guy playing reserves. Typical liberal spins

How did you manage to insert politics into all of this? Are you one of those angry republicans who have Trump's picture hanging on their wall lol?

Fact is, DFS is NOT a better defender this year than Green and had too many off games on offense to make up for his defense. He's also a very poor finisher around the rim and can barely dribble, unlike Green who is also 8 years younger. Mavs have to develop their own talent in order to progress and maybe create some future assests for themselves.

Hilarious, got to love posters who laugh at their own jokes. No not a Trump guy, but not a baby killing liberla supporter like im sure many of the non Texas or even America for that matter" Mavs fans" are on this board

I dont understand why people kepe bringing Gren into this. Green and DFS can play at the same time because DFS is so versatile he can play the 4. No one else on this team can other than Maxi.

Ok Cowboy, holster your republican colts and focus on basketball.

Why would we bring DFS into this? Well...
1. because it turns out he was a part of this deal
2. he was somewhat expandable due to Greens play. The word "expandable" doesn't occur too often when it comes to talking about the other starters. And if Brooklyn wants a 3&D wing then it's down to Bullock (who surely they don't want), DFS or Green. And that's an easy decision to make then for the Mavs. Plus salaries obviously also have to match

[daoneandonly]

How did you manage to insert politics into all of this? Are you one of those angry republicans who have Trump's picture hanging on their wall lol?

Fact is, DFS is NOT a better defender this year than Green and had too many off games on offense to make up for his defense. He's also a very poor finisher around the rim and can barely dribble, unlike Green who is also 8 years younger. Mavs have to develop their own talent in order to progress and maybe create some future assests for themselves.

Hilarious, got to love posters who laugh at their own jokes. No not a Trump guy, but not a baby killing liberla supporter like im sure many of the non Texas or even America for that matter" Mavs fans" are on this board

I dont understand why people kepe bringing Gren into this. Green and DFS can play at the same time because DFS is so versatile he can play the 4. No one else on this team can other than Maxi.

Ok Cowboy, holster your republican colts and focus on basketball.

Why would we bring DFS into this? Well...
1. because it turns out he was a part of this deal
2. he was somewhat expandable due to Greens play. The word "expandable" doesn't occur too often when it comes to talking about the other starters. And if Brooklyn wants a 3&D wing then it's down to Bullock (who surely they don't want), DFS or Green. And that's an easy decision to make then for the Mavs. Plus salaries obviously also have to match

If you are going to be condescending, then read first. I said bringing up Green, not DFS. of course DFS was part of the deal. But now we have no one to play PF. The FO couldnt even ask for Yuta instead of Morris. So if they wouldnt take Wood or Bullock, you walk, considering you're giving up an unprotected first when Luka may not even be here.

[daoneandonly]

One of the most well respected NBA analysts Tim legler just shared how awful of a deal this was for the Mavs with solid point after solid point

But you guys keep looking at box scores and Kyrie's name recognition and jump for joy

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Again ratings for a guy playing starters vs ratings for a guy playing reserves. Typical liberal spins

How did you manage to insert politics into all of this? Are you one of those angry republicans who have Trump's picture hanging on their wall lol?

Fact is, DFS is NOT a better defender this year than Green and had too many off games on offense to make up for his defense. He's also a very poor finisher around the rim and can barely dribble, unlike Green who is also 8 years younger. Mavs have to develop their own talent in order to progress and maybe create some future assests for themselves.

Hilarious, got to love posters who laugh at their own jokes. No not a Trump guy, but not a baby killing liberla supporter like im sure many of the non Texas or even America for that matter" Mavs fans" are on this board

I dont understand why people kepe bringing Gren into this. Green and DFS can play at the same time because DFS is so versatile he can play the 4. No one else on this team can other than Maxi.

Baby killing liberal? Never heard that before. It's weird since NRA has republicans so far up in their ass that you can't even send your kid to school without a body vest. But whatever...

DFS' flexibility is severly overblown, when he was playing center, he didn't move the needle at all. Even when Rick tried to switch positions with him, it was more than evident that this is not it, so he stopped doing that. Green can pretty much cover the same ground as DFS while also be productive on offense. Don't get me wrong, DFS was obviously very useful and a great guy but i'm not going to complain now that he's gone.

I don't like the fact that they traded Dinwiddie because he was a great 6th guy and could score on his own and Mavs will have some depth issues now, plus problem on center position is far from being resolved. They are trying to trade Wood aswell (for some reason) and that scares me even more.