2022-23 Season Discussion and Speculation 4 - Trade season continues - No player trade restrictions

[Ghost of Kleine]

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[BobbieL]

Robinson/Dedmon plus a FRP for Crowder/Shamet
who says no? I would hope the Suns actually - though depending on the protections of the pick - might be used next year. Shamet makes 10.5m next year, RObinson 6m more - who knows

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[Fo-Real]

Robinson/Dedmon plus a FRP for Crowder/Shamet
who says no? I would hope the Suns actually - though depending on the protections of the pick - might be used next year. Shamet makes 10.5m next year, RObinson 6m more - who knows

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NAAAAH, let Crowder rot at home and expire. No need to take on one shred of salary for that package.

[BobbieL]

Robinson/Dedmon plus a FRP for Crowder/Shamet
who says no? I would hope the Suns actually - though depending on the protections of the pick - might be used next year. Shamet makes 10.5m next year, RObinson 6m more - who knows

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NAAAAH, let Crowder rot at home and expire. No need to take on one shred of salary for that package.

I think the Suns need to use Crowder to get better. Now that doesn't mean trading for Duncan robinson - especially with how he is shooting

But if the suns can get better by trading Crowder - move him. Letting him sit and home and get paid is probably not a bad thing for him

[Fo-Real]

Robinson/Dedmon plus a FRP for Crowder/Shamet
who says no? I would hope the Suns actually - though depending on the protections of the pick - might be used next year. Shamet makes 10.5m next year, RObinson 6m more - who knows

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NAAAAH, let Crowder rot at home and expire. No need to take on one shred of salary for that package.

I think the Suns need to use Crowder to get better. Now that doesn't mean trading for Duncan robinson - especially with how he is shooting

But if the suns can get better by trading Crowder - move him. Letting him sit and home and get paid is probably not a bad thing for him

Well yes, we need to use Crowder to get better, that is a no brainer. We should not trade him just to trade him while taking on a ton of salary for a **** late first round pic. So OF COURSE we want to trade him but if this is the package, I would rather he watch basketball on his TV til next year.

[matt131]

Hmm this seems off a bit

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[Desertfox]

Why not take a flyier on Simmons if it's for peanuts? Say Crowder, Shamet, Saric for Simmons, Curry? If it doesn't work, you have a big contract to use in a future trade

How about trying to go after Dinwwidie? He wanted to be in Phoenix.

Like everyone is after KD but why not take advantage of an easier/lower level deal that makes us better? We have a good team, we don't need KD to be great. Especially if it means killing our future and depth.

[BobbieL]

Why not take a flyier on Simmons if it's for peanuts? Say Crowder, Shamet, Saric for Simmons, Curry? If it doesn't work, you have a big contract to use in a future trade

How about trying to go after Dinwwidie? He wanted to be in Phoenix.

Like everyone is after KD but why not take advantage of an easier/lower level deal that makes us better? We have a good team, we don't need KD to be great. Especially if it means killing our future and depth.

Dinwiddie would be a very good addition in my opinion. I wanted to get him yesterday

[NapoleonII]

Hollinger thinks the Nets leaked the Suns offer. Basically putting any other negotiations between the two teams as done
So no Durant


Makes sense - suns do not talk

This makes more sense. No way JJ lets that out. We don't play that game

I would assume they told Chris, but if they didn't and this got out.....don't they HAVE to trade him now?

No lmao

Chris knows better than anyone this is a business.

If immature / goofy / lazy / unfocused Ayton can handle all the trade talk since last summer, I think a former player union president and HoF point guard can handle it and win games.

[MPT]

In terms of small side trades to go along with whatever we turn Crowder into, what's the deal with Evan Fournier and Derrick Rose. I could never stand Fournier in Orlando when he was one of those roleplayers that just loved to go off on us. But as disgruntled of a situation he is in with the Knicks and Thibs, I can't help but think we could get him for real cheap. Derrick Rose could be nice in limited minutes, or at least provide some honest competition with our guards. I have more confidence in one of them going off in the playoffs than I do Shamet unfortunately.

[Bogyo]

Why not take a flyier on Simmons if it's for peanuts? Say Crowder, Shamet, Saric for Simmons, Curry? If it doesn't work, you have a big contract to use in a future trade

How about trying to go after Dinwwidie? He wanted to be in Phoenix.

Like everyone is after KD but why not take advantage of an easier/lower level deal that makes us better? We have a good team, we don't need KD to be great. Especially if it means killing our future and depth.

Yeah, this is my preferred route. Not Simmons but the other stuff. I think that CP (and KD) are just too old for this core, which I really like even with its flaws. Build on this, try to treat the wounds. We are set at 2/3/5 for sure we have another good wing in Cam, we "only" need good role players at the 1 and possibly the 4. Not even all stars, just good bball players who fit in, do their jobs, not overpaid (by much), not headcases...Dinwiddie is one archeotype, Aaron Gordon would be another, etc... find players like them, let the team grow, gel, and we have a contender for the next 3-5 years.

(no, FVV is not one of these, he is a midget and not a PG)

[flagstaff]

Cuban moved KP when it didn't workout (and picked up Dinwiddie) meanwhile JJ just lets a starter sit at home while getting paid.

Cuban just moved two starters that torched the SUNS for a superstar meanwhile JJ jas top figure out what he is going to say to CP3 on Tuesday

Well you should probably replace JJ with Mat in your ire because this level of move is absolutely at that level not something a GM is doing independently.

If that report is true, like I was saying earlier then hold on to your butts because Mat is a wild man.

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Shams is reporting “…Suns offered CP3, Crowder and one FRP. Suns pivoted after 24 hours.,”
Shams expects Suns to be active

I wonder how Paul feels

At least we didn't waste a lot of time and can continue looking elsewhere. I hope they don't spend most their time focusing on Durant again.

[NapoleonII]

I'll say this:

The West is more wide open than it's ever been. Lebron/AD/Kyrie would have overwhelmed everybody in the west. Golden State just lost Curry for weeks and will be scrambling to even make the playoffs.

Kyrie is a known entity....the role-players and Dallas' depth overtook us last year in a very winnable series, despite whatever was going on with Book or CP3.

Dinwiddie and DFS killed us in the playoffs last year....DFS shot 45% from three and Dinwiddie shot 51%, all while playing excellent D.

I like how we match-up against Dallas better, honestly.

[BobbieL]

Hmm this seems off a bit

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If Hollinger is correct
that ship has sailed
horse is out of the barn
any other cliche

[Slim Charless]

Why not take a flyier on Simmons if it's for peanuts? Say Crowder, Shamet, Saric for Simmons, Curry? If it doesn't work, you have a big contract to use in a future trade

How about trying to go after Dinwwidie? He wanted to be in Phoenix.

Like everyone is after KD but why not take advantage of an easier/lower level deal that makes us better? We have a good team, we don't need KD to be great. Especially if it means killing our future and depth.

Yeah, this is my preferred route. Not Simmons but the other stuff. I think that CP (and KD) are just too old for this core, which I really like even with its flaws. Build on this, try to treat the wounds. We are set at 2/3/5 for sure we have another good wing in Cam, we "only" need good role players at the 1 and possibly the 4. Not even all stars, just good bball players who fit in, do their jobs, not overpaid (by much), not headcases...Dinwiddie is one archeotype, Aaron Gordon would be another, etc... find players like them, let the team grow, gel, and we have a contender for the next 3-5 years.

(no, FVV is not one of these, he is a midget and not a PG)

Well....Booker and Simmons are pretty close lol. Can't imagine Booker would be angry about us getting him. He kinda sucks now, so there's that.

[TOO]

Why not take a flyier on Simmons if it's for peanuts? Say Crowder, Shamet, Saric for Simmons, Curry? If it doesn't work, you have a big contract to use in a future trade

How about trying to go after Dinwwidie? He wanted to be in Phoenix.

Like everyone is after KD but why not take advantage of an easier/lower level deal that makes us better? We have a good team, we don't need KD to be great. Especially if it means killing our future and depth.

Yeah, this is my preferred route. Not Simmons but the other stuff. I think that CP (and KD) are just too old for this core, which I really like even with its flaws. Build on this, try to treat the wounds. We are set at 2/3/5 for sure we have another good wing in Cam, we "only" need good role players at the 1 and possibly the 4. Not even all stars, just good bball players who fit in, do their jobs, not overpaid (by much), not headcases...Dinwiddie is one archeotype, Aaron Gordon would be another, etc... find players like them, let the team grow, gel, and we have a contender for the next 3-5 years.

(no, FVV is not one of these, he is a midget and not a PG)

Well....Booker and Simmons are pretty close lol. Can't imagine Booker would be angry about us getting him. He kinda sucks now, so there's that.

Close because of being Eskimo bros?

[Fo-Real]

Why not take a flyier on Simmons if it's for peanuts? Say Crowder, Shamet, Saric for Simmons, Curry? If it doesn't work, you have a big contract to use in a future trade

How about trying to go after Dinwwidie? He wanted to be in Phoenix.

Like everyone is after KD but why not take advantage of an easier/lower level deal that makes us better? We have a good team, we don't need KD to be great. Especially if it means killing our future and depth.

Simmons is a mental midget AND D Book straight stole his woman. It would be a bad idea.

[Slim Charless]

Yeah, this is my preferred route. Not Simmons but the other stuff. I think that CP (and KD) are just too old for this core, which I really like even with its flaws. Build on this, try to treat the wounds. We are set at 2/3/5 for sure we have another good wing in Cam, we "only" need good role players at the 1 and possibly the 4. Not even all stars, just good bball players who fit in, do their jobs, not overpaid (by much), not headcases...Dinwiddie is one archeotype, Aaron Gordon would be another, etc... find players like them, let the team grow, gel, and we have a contender for the next 3-5 years.

(no, FVV is not one of these, he is a midget and not a PG)

Well....Booker and Simmons are pretty close lol. Can't imagine Booker would be angry about us getting him. He kinda sucks now, so there's that.

Close because of being Eskimo bros?

I think they broke up so they can trade war stories about freaky ish Kendall used to do lol. In all seriousness, they were really close for a min along with Dlo and KAT.

I'm not saying I'd do it but it'd be kinda interesting.

[BobbieL]

Why not take a flyier on Simmons if it's for peanuts? Say Crowder, Shamet, Saric for Simmons, Curry? If it doesn't work, you have a big contract to use in a future trade

How about trying to go after Dinwwidie? He wanted to be in Phoenix.

Like everyone is after KD but why not take advantage of an easier/lower level deal that makes us better? We have a good team, we don't need KD to be great. Especially if it means killing our future and depth.

Simmons is a mental midget AND D Book straight stole his woman. It would be a bad idea.

Simmons has been not good
I am not sure that would be smart to get Simmons

Can the Suns just get D'Lo and roll with the current team -0 Russell is a friend of Booker too and I am not sure Book took Kendall from him

[WeekapaugGroove]

Why not take a flyier on Simmons if it's for peanuts? Say Crowder, Shamet, Saric for Simmons, Curry? If it doesn't work, you have a big contract to use in a future trade

How about trying to go after Dinwwidie? He wanted to be in Phoenix.

Like everyone is after KD but why not take advantage of an easier/lower level deal that makes us better? We have a good team, we don't need KD to be great. Especially if it means killing our future and depth.

I was one of the last holdouts on Simmons Island (his skill set has always intrigued me) so I won't completely shoot this down. Would be the type of deal where everyone from Booker to Monty would have to be fully on board because he brings bagage.

If somehow they got his head on straight he'd be incredibly useful defensively against all the big wings in the West.

Added bonus, he's one of the few guys who could take some of the fan heat off Ayton as they focus their ire at Ben lol

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