Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread III (Thurs Feb 9 3pm)

[SurgeIblocka]

If KD is being traded wouldn’t nets prefer picks? Why go for Jaylen Brown when he could leave in a year

[billy_hoyle]

He sold those picks for money 99% of the time. Cash considerations over and over. Trading 1sts to get off carroll. giving 1sts to the spurs to save some money. I'll give him credit for having to deal w cheap owners but he came into a good situation. JV, Lowry and DD big three and Ross who had lots of trade value. Rudy Gay had trade value. Had the former #1 pick on top of that. He had assets

It's not like he traded lottery picks. Here's the truth about first round picks Masai traded:

1) To get Ibaka he traded the less favourable of the 2017 LAC & TOR picks, which ended up being the 25th pick (Anžejs Pasečņiks). We kept the 23rd pick (acquired from the Vasquez trade) who became OG.

2) To move Carroll he traded what ended up being the 29th pick (Džanan Musa). Who?

3) To get Kawhi he traded what ended up being the 29th pick (Keldon Johnson). I think we came out as winners in this trade.

4) To move Dragic he traded a lottery protected pick that ended up being the 20th pick (Malaki Branham). We got Achiuwa in return who was the 20th pick in the previous draft so pretty much a wash as far as number of draft picks; Precious looks a lot better as a prospect.

None of the 2nd round picks ever traded amounted to anything so I won't go through them.

Lmao saying Masai walked into a good situation is so crazy as someone that followed the team then. He had Bargnani's awful contract, Lowry post 12-13 season wasn't seen as much more than a below avg starting PG, DD development had stagnated, Gay wasnt exaclty sought after (also overpaid), Ross had an ok rookie season, he didn't have a first round pick his first year, JV was a solid prospect and that mess of a Landry Fields contract.That was the ultimate treadmill situation. It looks waaay better because of what Masai did.

Now Colangelo stepped into a situation with amazing assests basically the best situation. Cap Space + the #1 overall pick + Chris Bosh. And all he got out of that was 3 playoff wins across 6 seasons.

I also followed the team back then (and all the way back to '95). Masai walked into a team that had multiple years of lottery pick assets already accumulated. You down play that all you want, but the team he inherited had two potential hall of fame players just coming into their prime. They'd be the best back court in the east for the next half decade. Two top 10 picks (Ross and JV), who both still had the allure of upside. He eventually traded these two for Ibaka and Marc Gasol, so they obviously had value.

[Dalek]

Ok now if KD really is available we have to make an offer of Pascal, OG, and 2 1st rounders including this years pick. I dont think Boston can beat that, can they?

After watching the Raptors this season, why do you think KD would make this sorry team, which is currently 0.5 games out of 10th any better? KD is not solving any of the depth or defensive issues.

[WuTang_CMB]

BRK isn't making that deal for KD to be traded at deadline.

[Psubs]

Ok now if KD really is available we have to make an offer of Pascal, OG, and 2 1st rounders including this years pick. I dont think Boston can beat that, can they?

PG FVV - Barnes
SG Trent - FVV
SF Durant - Thaddeus
PF Barnes - Boucher
C Precious - Koloko

Barnes and Durant P&R with FVV and Trent on the wings?

[goinrogue]

Nets hang up on any deal that doesn’t include Scottie.

[alpngso]

Read on Twitter

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[bboyskinnylegs]

If KD is really on the market, why wouldn’t Nets prefer Siakam + OG over Jaylen. Siakam probably would be easier to re-sign than Jaylen Brown.

they probably would prefer that over a package centered on just Brown, but why would we do it? KD just demands out again, and we get even less in return.

[SurgeIblocka]

Ok now if KD really is available we have to make an offer of Pascal, OG, and 2 1st rounders including this years pick. I dont think Boston can beat that, can they?

After watching the Raptors this season, why do you think KD would make this sorry team, which is currently 0.5 games out of 10th any better? KD is not solving any of the depth or defensive issues.

KD still has 3 years on his contract more than enough time to surround KD, Barnes and Fred with shooters and maybe we get Curry back as well.

[Raptors Realtor]

Ok now if KD really is available we have to make an offer of Pascal, OG, and 2 1st rounders including this years pick. I dont think Boston can beat that, can they?

After watching the Raptors this season, why do you think KD would make this sorry team, which is currently 0.5 games out of 10th any better? KD is not solving any of the depth or defensive issues.

That's such a backwards move... As if replacing OG and Siakam with Durant all of a sudden jettisons us to title contenders.

[Tha Cynic]

Harris, Patty Mills, Cam Thomas, Philly '27, Dallas '29 for Fred, Khem.

Is FVV really worth that much on the trade market as an expiring contract?

Probably pretty close to it for a team like the Nets that wouldn't have room to bring FVV in otherwise. Harris is a bad contract (19M this season and 20M next season) and Mills is basically deadweight at this point (7M and has only played a total of 430 minutes this season) similar to Birch. You could just take Mills/Birch out of the deal and think of it as FVV for Thomas + PHI '27 with DAL '29 being used to get off the last year of the Harris deal. Maybe a slight overpay from the Nets, but it makes them a lot more competitive this season.

His recent play definitely helps with his value. If Masai can get that much value for a guy who was undrafted, that's some significant increase in investment.

[SurgeIblocka]

Nets hang up on any deal that doesn’t include Scottie.

I think giving them this years pick along with others can compensate. Also they cant tank next year they dont have their own picks so they would want to play well and trade for other teams picks.

[douggood]

jaylen brown added to injury list (illness non covid)

[wegotthabeet]

It's not like he traded lottery picks. Here's the truth about first round picks Masai traded:

1) To get Ibaka he traded the less favourable of the 2017 LAC & TOR picks, which ended up being the 25th pick (Anžejs Pasečņiks). We kept the 23rd pick (acquired from the Vasquez trade) who became OG.

2) To move Carroll he traded what ended up being the 29th pick (Džanan Musa). Who?

3) To get Kawhi he traded what ended up being the 29th pick (Keldon Johnson). I think we came out as winners in this trade.

4) To move Dragic he traded a lottery protected pick that ended up being the 20th pick (Malaki Branham). We got Achiuwa in return who was the 20th pick in the previous draft so pretty much a wash as far as number of draft picks; Precious looks a lot better as a prospect.

None of the 2nd round picks ever traded amounted to anything so I won't go through them.

Lmao saying Masai walked into a good situation is so crazy as someone that followed the team then. He had Bargnani's awful contract, Lowry post 12-13 season wasn't seen as much more than a below avg starting PG, DD development had stagnated, Gay wasnt exaclty sought after (also overpaid), Ross had an ok rookie season, he didn't have a first round pick his first year, JV was a solid prospect and that mess of a Landry Fields contract.That was the ultimate treadmill situation. It looks waaay better because of what Masai did.

Now Colangelo stepped into a situation with amazing assests basically the best situation. Cap Space + the #1 overall pick + Chris Bosh. And all he got out of that was 3 playoff wins across 6 seasons.

when you wrote " Colangelo stepped into a situation with amazing assests basically the best situation. Cap Space + the #1 overall pick" right away I thought for sure you were talking about philly.

Its amazing, colangelo literally did it twice!!!!!

in toronto he started with:
21 year old all-star + the 1st overall pick + cap space

in philly he started with:
23 year old soon to be all-star + the 1st overall pick from the year before + the 3rd overall pick and other assets

don't forget he traded a future lottery pick to move up to 1 only to draft a bust. don't let him off that easy.

[Tha Cynic]

Durant might be moved and the Celtics are interested! So Jaylen Brown +

That's not real. Nets aren't going to move on from Kyrie just to bring in Kyrie Lite.

Kyrie lite?

[DreamTeam09]

If KD is being traded wouldn’t nets prefer picks? Why go for Jaylen Brown when he could leave in a year

You can't really tank when you don't own your own picks.

If you trade KD to recoup picks, there probably not gonna be good picks.

They gotta be semi-good for awhile

[SurgeIblocka]

Ok now if KD really is available we have to make an offer of Pascal, OG, and 2 1st rounders including this years pick. I dont think Boston can beat that, can they?

After watching the Raptors this season, why do you think KD would make this sorry team, which is currently 0.5 games out of 10th any better? KD is not solving any of the depth or defensive issues.

That's such a backwards move... As if replacing OG and Siakam with Durant all of a sudden jettisons us to title contenders.

Jeez it wouldn’t this would be a play for the next 3 years. Even after trading for Kahwhi Masai had to get Gasol and Green.

If we get KD and Curry. We resign Fred, and get some ring chasers, we definitely would be contenders next year

[PhilBlackson]

Durant might be moved and the Celtics are interested! So Jaylen Brown +

Where did you see this?

steven a smith

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I won't say that Stephen A does or doesn't have "sources". I think working in the industry as long as he has, I'm sure he does have some. But I also know his job is to stay relevant and even though he may know he's doing flawed reporting ie/ what I think is happening is he's reporting from a "source" within Boston, he does it because the nature of his business isn't genuine reporting, it's clickbait & getting eyes and ears to FirstTake.

Meaning that BOSTON probably is calling....it doesn't mean Brooklyn is doing it.

We heard rumblings over the summer about them "maybe" willing to include Brown and that BKN acknowledged it as the ONLY viable trade option (not OG, Gary....that's what MEDIA said that an OG + Gary package + picks MAYBE a good enough, BKN never did, BKN said Pascal, Scottie or kick rocks). BOS knows now they can make Finals and likely will continue to do so but seeing KD still balling at MVP level, assuming he can stay relatively healthy, they can lock up AT LEAST one, if not more and what's a better feeling than being a potential mini "dynasty". Repeat champs just hits different. They still MAY be able to do so with Brown but with KD, assuming health, that's damn near a lock. So I believe BOS wants it BUUUUT Brooklyn just clearly made a trade with continuing to compete with KD in mind and Brown is FA after next year, he's no more guaranteed to stick around than KD.

Unless KD is barking at Tsai to be traded too (which isn't what's being reported) then I don't see why he's moved and this is just Screaming A screaming for attention. But maybe we haven't gotten to the leaks of KD wanting out just yet....the Nets are so damn unpredictable lol smdh

[NotMyKawhi]

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OG to the grizz will happen if the pelicans don't give Daniels or trey 3

[SurgeIblocka]

If KD is being traded wouldn’t nets prefer picks? Why go for Jaylen Brown when he could leave in a year

You can't really tank when you don't own your own picks.

If you trade KD to recoup picks, there probably not gonna be good picks.

They gotta be semi-good for awhile

Exactly that is why they would prefer a package focused on picks. Raptors picks would be better than Bostons.