Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread III (Thurs Feb 9 3pm)

[SurgeIblocka]

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steven a smith

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I won't say that Stephen A does or doesn't have "sources". I think working in the industry as long as he has, I'm sure he does have some. But I also know his job is to stay relevant and even though he may know he's doing flawed reporting ie/ what I think is happening is he's reporting from a "source" within Boston, he does it because the nature of his business isn't genuine reporting, it's clickbait & getting eyes and ears to FirstTake.

Meaning that BOSTON probably is calling....it doesn't mean Brooklyn is doing it.

We heard rumblings over the summer about them "maybe" willing to include Brown and that BKN acknowledged it as the ONLY viable trade option (not OG, Gary....that's what MEDIA said that an OG + Gary package + picks MAYBE a good enough, BKN never did, BKN said Pascal, Scottie or kick rocks). BOS knows now they can make Finals and likely will continue to do so but seeing KD still balling at MVP level, assuming he can stay relatively healthy, they can lock up AT LEAST one, if not more and what's a better feeling than being a potential mini "dynasty". Repeat champs just hits different. They still MAY be able to do so with Brown but with KD, assuming health, that's damn near a lock. So I believe BOS wants it BUUUUT Brooklyn just clearly made a trade with continuing to compete with KD in mind and Brown is FA after next year, he's more guaranteed to stick around than KD.

Unless KD is barking at Tsai to be traded too (which isn't what's being reported) then I don't see why he's moved and this is just Screaming A screaming for attention. But maybe we haven't gotten to the leaks of KD wanting out just yet....the Nets are so damn unpredictable lol smdh

The Boston trade would have been a viable option if they still had Kyrie, not when they will be rebuilding. Who would they have a better chance at re-signing? Pascal/OG or Jaylen Brown. Which team would offer 1st rounders that would be higher in the draft order, that would definitely be the Raptors

[Rapsfan07]

Ok now if KD really is available we have to make an offer of Pascal, OG, and 2 1st rounders including this years pick. I dont think Boston can beat that, can they?

So if we trade Pascal, OG and 2 FRPs in a Durant deal, who exactly is going to help him win a chip? FVV & Trent?

If Durant is truly on the market, the Raptors are screwed.

Teams who feel they're truly on the cusp for this year MIGHT spend to acquire Trent or FVV but no one is paying real value for Siakam or OG if they can have Durant for something similar.

Toronto wont be able to move these guys until the Durant situation is resolved.

[ATLTimekeeper]

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Why does this have trade implications?

[SurgeIblocka]

Ok now if KD really is available we have to make an offer of Pascal, OG, and 2 1st rounders including this years pick. I dont think Boston can beat that, can they?

So if we trade Pascal, OG and 2 FRPs in a Durant deal, who exactly is going to help him win a chip? FVV & Trent?

If Durant is truly on the market, the Raptors are screwed.

Teams who feel they're truly on the cusp for this year MIGHT spend to acquire Trent or FVV but no one is paying real value for Siakam or OG if they can have Durant for something similar.

Toronto wont be able to move these guys until the Durant situation is resolved.

Like I have said, it wont be this year, they probably would rest KD. Maybe they even somehow convince Nets to take future picks instead of this years pick. Now you have KD, Precious, Fred (re-sign), Scottie, Trent (re-sign), Curry (hopefully included in trade to build around. You find players on buyout market or maybe you do a sign and trade for fred in the summer for Ayton and then you just let Scottie run the point and a super long lineup. Lots of options.

I also think maybe out of spite they trade KD to the Raps

[PhilBlackson]

steven a smith

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I won't say that Stephen A does or doesn't have "sources". I think working in the industry as long as he has, I'm sure he does have some. But I also know his job is to stay relevant and even though he may know he's doing flawed reporting ie/ what I think is happening is he's reporting from a "source" within Boston, he does it because the nature of his business isn't genuine reporting, it's clickbait & getting eyes and ears to FirstTake.

Meaning that BOSTON probably is calling....it doesn't mean Brooklyn is doing it.

We heard rumblings over the summer about them "maybe" willing to include Brown and that BKN acknowledged it as the ONLY viable trade option (not OG, Gary....that's what MEDIA said that an OG + Gary package + picks MAYBE a good enough, BKN never did, BKN said Pascal, Scottie or kick rocks). BOS knows now they can make Finals and likely will continue to do so but seeing KD still balling at MVP level, assuming he can stay relatively healthy, they can lock up AT LEAST one, if not more and what's a better feeling than being a potential mini "dynasty". Repeat champs just hits different. They still MAY be able to do so with Brown but with KD, assuming health, that's damn near a lock. So I believe BOS wants it BUUUUT Brooklyn just clearly made a trade with continuing to compete with KD in mind and Brown is FA after next year, he's more guaranteed to stick around than KD.

Unless KD is barking at Tsai to be traded too (which isn't what's being reported) then I don't see why he's moved and this is just Screaming A screaming for attention. But maybe we haven't gotten to the leaks of KD wanting out just yet....the Nets are so damn unpredictable lol smdh

The Boston trade would have been a viable option if they still had Kyrie, not when they will be rebuilding. Who would they have a better chance at re-signing? Pascal/OG or Jaylen Brown. Which team would offer 1st rounders that would be higher in the draft order, that would definitely be the Raptors

I don't disagree about which package would be better although it has yet to be reported that we have offered Pascal in any trade for KD. I don't see the sense in the move myself if you did trade OG/Pascal for him....Scottie is nowhere near ready to be KD's 2nd option and the Mini Me Bros (FVV, Gary) aren't gonna be the answer, even if you swapped one of them for OG, there is no guy ready to take that role but anyways....

I'm just saying Stephen A is just trying to get people riled up on the idea of KD to Boston because they do have the assets ON PAPER to get the deal done & the FIT (something we wouldn't have) POST trade makes a TON of sense for the Celtics and you know how the league loves to play to narratives....KD vs Steph this year, then they pray for Kyrie to go to LAL next year for KD vs Bron/Kyrie, BOS vs LAL. They know those "ideas" drum up a lot of excitement for casual fans/viewers of his show.

Better reporting would be if he acknowledged BKN's side which Woj said is that BKN wants to continue to build out the roster to compete WITH KD (the MOST important factor to it all). They said it in the summer & are saying it again but everyone else just loves to fantasize about KD being on their team, until KD comes out again & says he wants out, it's wishful thinking.

[StopitLeo]

Ok now if KD really is available we have to make an offer of Pascal, OG, and 2 1st rounders including this years pick. I dont think Boston can beat that, can they?

You can't trade Pascal. Trading for KD is a win-now move and the way it would help us win is by adding a primary offensive option to play alongside Pascal. Trade anyone other than Pascal and Scottie.

[Raptors Realtor]

After watching the Raptors this season, why do you think KD would make this sorry team, which is currently 0.5 games out of 10th any better? KD is not solving any of the depth or defensive issues.

That's such a backwards move... As if replacing OG and Siakam with Durant all of a sudden jettisons us to title contenders.

Jeez it wouldn’t this would be a play for the next 3 years. Even after trading for Kahwhi Masai had to get Gasol and Green.

If we get KD and Curry. We resign Fred, and get some ring chasers, we definitely would be contenders next year

FVV, Trent (if re-signed), Durant & Barnes is not enough to compete... We still have no bench, less defense, and not enough consistent 3pt shooting, plus we lose two 1st rounders... It's a short-sighted move.

[Rapsfan07]

Ok now if KD really is available we have to make an offer of Pascal, OG, and 2 1st rounders including this years pick. I dont think Boston can beat that, can they?

So if we trade Pascal, OG and 2 FRPs in a Durant deal, who exactly is going to help him win a chip? FVV & Trent?

If Durant is truly on the market, the Raptors are screwed.

Teams who feel they're truly on the cusp for this year MIGHT spend to acquire Trent or FVV but no one is paying real value for Siakam or OG if they can have Durant for something similar.

Toronto wont be able to move these guys until the Durant situation is resolved.

Like I have said, it wont be this year, they probably would rest KD. Maybe they even somehow convince Nets to take future picks instead of this years pick. Now you have KD, Precious, Fred (re-sign), Scottie, Trent (re-sign), Curry (hopefully included in trade to build around. You find players on buyout market or maybe you do a sign and trade for fred in the summer for Ayton and then you just let Scottie run the point and a super long lineup. Lots of options.

I also think maybe out of spite they trade KD to the Raps

Unfortunately, I don't think any of said options lead us to a chip.

If you're trading for Durant, you're giving up 2 of OG/Siakam/Barnes + picks (this year's would probably be included). If you gave up OG, Barnes, Thad, Birch and picks, yes, we could still wind up being contenders.

[SurgeIblocka]

Ok now if KD really is available we have to make an offer of Pascal, OG, and 2 1st rounders including this years pick. I dont think Boston can beat that, can they?

You can't trade Pascal. Trading for KD is a win-now move and the way it would help us win is by adding a primary offensive option to play alongside Pascal. Trade anyone other than Pascal and Scottie.

If you don’t trade Pascal you have to gut your entire team to salary match KD’s over $40 Mil salary. Thats why Pascal
Makes the most sense, also he is comparable to Brown in terms of an asset. Just OG is not enough to entice BKN

[StopitLeo]

I can't see Boston trading Brown for KD when they have the best record in the league. If it ain't broke...don't break it.

[PhilBlackson]

That's such a backwards move... As if replacing OG and Siakam with Durant all of a sudden jettisons us to title contenders.

Jeez it wouldn’t this would be a play for the next 3 years. Even after trading for Kahwhi Masai had to get Gasol and Green.

If we get KD and Curry. We resign Fred, and get some ring chasers, we definitely would be contenders next year

FVV, Trent (if re-signed), Durant & Barnes is not enough to compete... We still have no bench, less defense, and not enough consistent 3pt shooting, plus we lose two 1st rounders... It's a short-sighted move.

Our boy over here is just waaaay too desperate to get KD lol the man won't listen to reason.

[DreamTeam09]

If KD is being traded wouldn’t nets prefer picks? Why go for Jaylen Brown when he could leave in a year

You can't really tank when you don't own your own picks.

If you trade KD to recoup picks, there probably not gonna be good picks.

They gotta be semi-good for awhile

Exactly that is why they would prefer a package focused on picks. Raptors picks would be better than Bostons.

They're gonna get picks regardless in any KD deal, but the nets will be looking for the best young(ish) players they can get.

[mtcan]

Pascal and OG for KD is the move to make if you are the Nets.

Fred
Gary
KD
Scottie
Precious

Do this.

[PhilBlackson]

Ok now if KD really is available we have to make an offer of Pascal, OG, and 2 1st rounders including this years pick. I dont think Boston can beat that, can they?

You can't trade Pascal. Trading for KD is a win-now move and the way it would help us win is by adding a primary offensive option to play alongside Pascal. Trade anyone other than Pascal and Scottie.

If you don’t trade Pascal you have to gut your entire team to salary match KD’s over $40 Mil salary. Thats why Pascal
Makes the most sense, also he is comparable to Brown in terms of an asset. Just OG is not enough to entice BKN

The point people are trying to get across to you isn't that Pascal isn't comparable (or better) than Brown or who's picks are better as a trade option.

It's that OUR TEAM will NOT HAVE THE PIECES LEFT to truly compete.

You just emptied out all the best assets and are left with 2 midget UFAs and a sophmore. That's not gonna be enough to get the job done so the trade would be pointless.

[Rumi]

Pascal and OG for KD is the move to make if you are the Nets.

Fred
Gary
KD
Scottie
Precious

Do this.

Where's the bench?

[douggood]

outside of sas there are no rumors/reports of kd on the market
looking at the trade bkn chose to do (win now trade) they arent putting kd on the market this deadline

come offseason that may change.

[mintsa]

Pascal and OG for KD is the move to make if you are the Nets.

Fred
Gary
KD
Scottie
Precious

Do this.

Where's the bench?

Bench doesn’t play in the playoffs…….

[Raptaurus]

Nets preference looks to be to keep KD and fortify his supporting cast. If KD wants out though, they can easily get lots of draft picks (and young talent) to replenish their coffers for the rebuild. Marks has navigated these waters before….

[mtcan]

Pascal and OG for KD is the move to make if you are the Nets.

Fred
Gary
KD
Scottie
Precious

Do this.

Where's the bench?

Bench doesn’t play in the playoffs…….

Ya...Nick would only play Chris Boucher, Thad and maybe Malachi but hard to argue that, that starting 5 isn't as good as any in the East.

[StopitLeo]

Ok now if KD really is available we have to make an offer of Pascal, OG, and 2 1st rounders including this years pick. I dont think Boston can beat that, can they?

You can't trade Pascal. Trading for KD is a win-now move and the way it would help us win is by adding a primary offensive option to play alongside Pascal. Trade anyone other than Pascal and Scottie.

If you don’t trade Pascal you have to gut your entire team to salary match KD’s over $40 Mil salary. Thats why Pascal
Makes the most sense, also he is comparable to Brown in terms of an asset. Just OG is not enough to entice BKN

Gut the team? You can match salary with two of Fred/OG/GTJ and a filler on each side. Whether those players are enough for the Nets is another issue (obviously picks would be involved regardless).