Brooklyn's Ability To Make Compelling Offer To Raptors 'Suddenly Very Interesting'

[RealGM Wiretap]

The Brooklyn Nets are interested in trading for OG Anunoby from the Toronto Raptors.

"I still don't know what the Raptors are going to do," said Brian Windhorst.

"The Nets are definitely calling the Raptors over the last 24 hours," replied Zach Lowe.

The Nets could potentially reroute Spencer Dinwiddie and Dorian Finney-Smith while they also own future first round picks from the Dallas Mavericks and Philadelphia 76ers

The Raptors previously had interest in Nic Claxton and offered Brooklyn a first round pick last year.

"I'm just telling you the Nets' offering ability with what Toronto has is suddenly very interesting," said Windhorst. "I'm just going to leave it at that."

Via Brian Windhorst, Zach Lowe/ESPN

[Kingdibs19]

The Lakers 2 FRP would’ve landed OG. Mavs pick will be useless with Luka there. Spite will not lead to wins Joe Tsai, way to go.

[balla4lyf23]

The Lakers 2 FRP would’ve landed OG. Mavs pick will be useless with Luka there. Spite will not lead to wins Joe Tsai, way to go.

im not so sure those 2 firsts (remember they could very well end up being **** picks) would have gotten them Anunoby

[ChumboChappati]

are Raptors that stupid to make such a deal?

[Cassius]

are Raptors that stupid to make such a deal?

If the trade is two picks, DFS & Claxton for OG and Otto Porter, then I'd be willing to listen. I'm not really interested in anything from the Nets if Claxton isn't involved. DFS is already 29 himself, I love Spencer but that would be too many older guys for a 25 year old OG.

[Wingy]

are Raptors that stupid to make such a deal?

If the trade is two picks, DFS & Claxton for OG and Otto Porter, then I'd be willing to listen. I'm not really interested in anything from the Nets if Claxton isn't involved. DFS is already 29 himself, I love Spencer but that would be too many older guys for a 25 year old OG.

Yeah, but OG's brittle. can't expect the moon for him. He missed nearly half the season the past 2 years, had the ACL in college, and the injury stuff doesn't get better with age. That above is an overpay IMHO.

[Cassius]

Yeah, but OG's brittle. can't expect the moon for him. He missed nearly half the season the past 2 years, had the ACL in college, and the injury stuff doesn't get better with age. That above is an overpay IMHO.

Totally. It sucks that Precious Achiuwa was hurt for so long, Raptors could have cashed in when OG's value was super high in December and he hadn't sustained his annual injury yet.

[alienpick]

The Raps will take KD.

[Darthlukey]

are Raptors that stupid to make such a deal?

If the trade is two picks, DFS & Claxton for OG and Otto Porter, then I'd be willing to listen. I'm not really interested in anything from the Nets if Claxton isn't involved. DFS is already 29 himself, I love Spencer but that would be too many older guys for a 25 year old OG.

I love the nets sucking as much as the next guy, but that is a HUGE overpayment for OG

[mtcan]

Joe Harris, Cam Thomas, Day'ron Sharpe and a first round pick

For Fred VanVleet.

[JKiddy]

Joe Harris, Cam Thomas, Day'ron Sharpe and a first round pick

For Fred VanVleet.

[SkynMan]

The Lakers 2 FRP would’ve landed OG. Mavs pick will be useless with Luka there. Spite will not lead to wins Joe Tsai, way to go.

The Lakers picks are trash!!! The Raptors would rather picks in the next 2 years not 2027 2029 and more than likely protected. The Lakers are trash and have nothing to trade with unless they wanna send Westbrook to a team like Detroit for Killian Hayes and Jaden Ivey or some garbage like that. LeBron can't win in LA before he retires

[basketballwacko2]

The pick that the nets got from the Mavs for Kyrie is a 2029 #1 it's unprotected. But if the Mavs were to at some point trade their 2027 #1 pick with say top 20 or 25 protection and it didn't convey in 27 and role over to 2028 the Stepian rule would not allow the 29 #1 to be conveyed. So that 2029 #1 may not be worth anything.

[arasu]

The pick that the nets got from the Mavs for Kyrie is a 2029 #1 it's unprotected. But if the Mavs were to at some point trade their 2027 #1 pick with say top 20 or 25 protection and it didn't convey in 27 and role over to 2028 the Stepian rule would not allow the 29 #1 to be conveyed. So that 2029 #1 may not be worth anything.

Once they agree to trade a pick, they can't later make some other trade that violates that pick. If they subsequently trade their 2027, pick, either it must be unprotected, or it can't be protected into a future year. Their 2028 draft pick can only be traded as a pick swap.

[basketballwacko2]

The pick that the nets got from the Mavs for Kyrie is a 2029 #1 it's unprotected. But if the Mavs were to at some point trade their 2027 #1 pick with say top 20 or 25 protection and it didn't convey in 27 and role over to 2028 the Stepian rule would not allow the 29 #1 to be conveyed. So that 2029 #1 may not be worth anything.

Once they agree to trade a pick, they can't later make some other trade that violates that pick. If they subsequently trade their 2027, pick, either it must be unprotected, or it can't be protected into a future year. Their 2028 draft pick can only be traded as a pick swap.

Are you sure they can't trade their 2027 #1 with protections? I remember a few years back the Lakers traded to get Steve Nash and Dwight Howard in separate trades, the Nash trade was for a #1 to the Suns, I don't recall the year, but it kept getting put off by protections, then the Howard sent a #1 to the Magic again I don't remember the year but it was to be 2 years after the pick that was to go to the Suns. That pick was traded around by a few teams and finally used by Philly the Magic only got a 2nd.

Now I don't know of a rule that says they can't trade a protected pick in 2027, if you know please post a link to that rule.

[arasu]

The pick that the nets got from the Mavs for Kyrie is a 2029 #1 it's unprotected. But if the Mavs were to at some point trade their 2027 #1 pick with say top 20 or 25 protection and it didn't convey in 27 and role over to 2028 the Stepian rule would not allow the 29 #1 to be conveyed. So that 2029 #1 may not be worth anything.

Once they agree to trade a pick, they can't later make some other trade that violates that pick. If they subsequently trade their 2027, pick, either it must be unprotected, or it can't be protected into a future year. Their 2028 draft pick can only be traded as a pick swap.

Are you sure they can't trade their 2027 #1 with protections? I remember a few years back the Lakers traded to get Steve Nash and Dwight Howard in separate trades, the Nash trade was for a #1 to the Suns, I don't recall the year, but it kept getting put off by protections, then the Howard sent a #1 to the Magic again I don't remember the year but it was to be 2 years after the pick that was to go to the Suns. That pick was traded around by a few teams and finally used by Philly the Magic only got a 2nd.

Now I don't know of a rule that says they can't trade a protected pick in 2027, if you know please post a link to that rule.

All stipulations must be made at the time of the deal. For instance, a team may owe a future protected pick, and that pick may be taken in one year or the next. So another trade can stipulate based on which year it goes. The Nash and Dwight trades were set up like that. For example, if the Mavs already owed a protected 2027 pick that could be conveyed in '28 instead, then they could later trade the''29 pick conditionally. Thus if the pick goes in ''27, then the '29 pick can convey, but if it goes in '28, then '29 doesn't convey. Those stipulations are made FIRST...always. This is certain.

[arasu]

The pick that the nets got from the Mavs for Kyrie is a 2029 #1 it's unprotected. But if the Mavs were to at some point trade their 2027 #1 pick with say top 20 or 25 protection and it didn't convey in 27 and role over to 2028 the Stepian rule would not allow the 29 #1 to be conveyed. So that 2029 #1 may not be worth anything.

Once they agree to trade a pick, they can't later make some other trade that violates that pick. If they subsequently trade their 2027, pick, either it must be unprotected, or it can't be protected into a future year. Their 2028 draft pick can only be traded as a pick swap.

Are you sure they can't trade their 2027 #1 with protections? I remember a few years back the Lakers traded to get Steve Nash and Dwight Howard in separate trades, the Nash trade was for a #1 to the Suns, I don't recall the year, but it kept getting put off by protections, then the Howard sent a #1 to the Magic again I don't remember the year but it was to be 2 years after the pick that was to go to the Suns. That pick was traded around by a few teams and finally used by Philly the Magic only got a 2nd.

Now I don't know of a rule that says they can't trade a protected pick in 2027, if you know please post a link to that rule.

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm

There's no need to ask for specific rule links. The CBA explanation has been linked by RealGM for many years. I think people need to start looking for their own information, instead of asking people for links all the time. I'm being nice here, but seriously, if you're not sure about what you're told about anything, look it up yourself. That's your job.

[basketballwacko2]

Once they agree to trade a pick, they can't later make some other trade that violates that pick. If they subsequently trade their 2027, pick, either it must be unprotected, or it can't be protected into a future year. Their 2028 draft pick can only be traded as a pick swap.

Are you sure they can't trade their 2027 #1 with protections? I remember a few years back the Lakers traded to get Steve Nash and Dwight Howard in separate trades, the Nash trade was for a #1 to the Suns, I don't recall the year, but it kept getting put off by protections, then the Howard sent a #1 to the Magic again I don't remember the year but it was to be 2 years after the pick that was to go to the Suns. That pick was traded around by a few teams and finally used by Philly the Magic only got a 2nd.

Now I don't know of a rule that says they can't trade a protected pick in 2027, if you know please post a link to that rule.

All stipulations must be made at the time of the deal. For instance, a team may owe a future protected pick, and that pick may be taken in one year or the next. So another trade can stipulate based on which year it goes. The Nash and Dwight trades were set up like that. For example, if the Mavs already owed a protected 2027 pick that could be conveyed in '28 instead, then they could later trade the''29 pick conditionally. Thus if the pick goes in ''27, then the '29 pick can convey, but if it goes in '28, then '29 doesn't convey. Those stipulations are made FIRST...always. This is certain.

I would still like to see a link to the rule. I know if a team trades their 2023 pick they can't trade the 2024 pick and if there are protections on the 2023 pick it can cause a 2025 pick to get backed up to 26 if the 23 pick rolls over to 24 because of said protection.

So the Pick traded to the Nets is 2029 it is unprotected. I know the mavs can't trade their 2028 #1, but what if they trade the 2027 with protection? I've been looking for the rule and can't find it.

[basketballwacko2]

Once they agree to trade a pick, they can't later make some other trade that violates that pick. If they subsequently trade their 2027, pick, either it must be unprotected, or it can't be protected into a future year. Their 2028 draft pick can only be traded as a pick swap.

Are you sure they can't trade their 2027 #1 with protections? I remember a few years back the Lakers traded to get Steve Nash and Dwight Howard in separate trades, the Nash trade was for a #1 to the Suns, I don't recall the year, but it kept getting put off by protections, then the Howard sent a #1 to the Magic again I don't remember the year but it was to be 2 years after the pick that was to go to the Suns. That pick was traded around by a few teams and finally used by Philly the Magic only got a 2nd.

Now I don't know of a rule that says they can't trade a protected pick in 2027, if you know please post a link to that rule.

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm

There's no need to ask for specific rule links. The CBA explanation has been linked by RealGM for many years. I think people need to start looking for their own information, instead of asking people for links all the time. I'm being nice here, but seriously, if you're not sure about what you're told about anything, look it up yourself. That's your job.

So you just toss the entire CBA at me and say look it up!? Wow what a way to make your point.

[basketballwacko2]

Are you sure they can't trade their 2027 #1 with protections? I remember a few years back the Lakers traded to get Steve Nash and Dwight Howard in separate trades, the Nash trade was for a #1 to the Suns, I don't recall the year, but it kept getting put off by protections, then the Howard sent a #1 to the Magic again I don't remember the year but it was to be 2 years after the pick that was to go to the Suns. That pick was traded around by a few teams and finally used by Philly the Magic only got a 2nd.

Now I don't know of a rule that says they can't trade a protected pick in 2027, if you know please post a link to that rule.

All stipulations must be made at the time of the deal. For instance, a team may owe a future protected pick, and that pick may be taken in one year or the next. So another trade can stipulate based on which year it goes. The Nash and Dwight trades were set up like that. For example, if the Mavs already owed a protected 2027 pick that could be conveyed in '28 instead, then they could later trade the''29 pick conditionally. Thus if the pick goes in ''27, then the '29 pick can convey, but if it goes in '28, then '29 doesn't convey. Those stipulations are made FIRST...always. This is certain.

I would still like to see a link to the rule. I know if a team trades their 2023 pick they can't trade the 2024 pick and if there are protections on the 2023 pick it can cause a 2025 pick to get backed up to 26 if the 23 pick rolls over to 24 because of said protection.

So the Pick traded to the Nets is 2029 it is unprotected. I know the mavs can't trade their 2028 #1, but what if they trade the 2027 with protection? I've been looking for the rule and can't find it.

I don't see anything in this that says the Mavs can't trade their 2027 #1 with protections.

89. How are draft picks handled in trades? What is the Ted Stepien rule?

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q89