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Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread III (Thurs Feb 9 3pm)

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What will happen?

1 of Fred/OG/Trent/Siakam Traded
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27%
2 of Fred/OG/Trent/Siakam Traded
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35%
3 of Fred/OG/Trent/Siakam Traded
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11%
Double Down Trades (Poeltl / Turner / etc)
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5%
Nothing Happens
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23%
 
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread III (Thurs Feb 9 3pm) 

Post#401 » by Los_29 » Mon Feb 6, 2023 9:08 pm

Zeno wrote:John Collins, Capella for Simmons, Claxton, Philly '27 1st. Who says no?


Why do you hate the Nets so much? :lol:
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Post#402 » by Harcore Fenton Mun » Mon Feb 6, 2023 9:08 pm

Los_29 wrote:Celtics better be doing everything it can to get KD. They'd be extremely hard to beat if they were able to get him. I don't think they will make the same mistake they made in 2018 when they didn't pursue Kawhi. That decision cost them a championship.

If they gave up Smart, it would be a brutal mistake.
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread III (Thurs Feb 9 3pm) 

Post#403 » by mtcan » Mon Feb 6, 2023 9:08 pm

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WuTang_OG wrote:oh baby come on

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This. I was trying to think back to which guys Masai has drafted and subsequently traded since he got here in 2013.

I think the only two are Jakob and Delon.

It took 3 years for Masai to move on from Bruno...lol
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread III (Thurs Feb 9 3pm) 

Post#404 » by DelAbbot » Mon Feb 6, 2023 9:08 pm

douggood wrote:
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douggood wrote:3 picks and dinwidde for og
3 picks and joe harris for og
3 picks cam thomas and fillers (patty mills etc) for og.

i like the idea of 3 picks from bkn, people will complain that its too far in future but that's a positive in my books and for teams (windhorst/lowe said same in the podcast today, teams prefer far away picks)

bkn 2029 unprotected, dallas 2029 unprotected, 76ers 27 top 8 protected till 28(also top 8 then becomes seconds.)

i like the idea of betting against 2-3 teams, spreading risk around


While this looks good to me, I feel this is not how Masai would do to build a team. He prob prefers rookies or sophomores that our scouting team likes, instead of half-a-decade-long option contracts

agreed, but looking at the market. outside of the pelicans its going to be a draft based trade.


a draft-picks based trade helps the tank this season too, but I don't call the shots
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread III (Thurs Feb 9 3pm) 

Post#405 » by Zeno » Mon Feb 6, 2023 9:09 pm

Los_29 wrote:
Zeno wrote:John Collins, Capella for Simmons, Claxton, Philly '27 1st. Who says no?


Why do you hate the Nets so much? :lol:

I think this trade would be a win for the Nets at current values.
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread III (Thurs Feb 9 3pm) 

Post#406 » by Ganjamayne » Mon Feb 6, 2023 9:09 pm

Damnit I'm on board for getting KD now. If we're gonna have anybody tied up for max money it'd rather it be KD over Siakam or FVV. KD is the one player that will change the trajectory of the season for us Lol
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread III (Thurs Feb 9 3pm) 

Post#407 » by SurgeIblocka » Mon Feb 6, 2023 9:10 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:
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WuTang_OG wrote:SAS just spinning his own garbage that KD is on the trade block for clicks

BRK is making moves to support KD and they want to go all in for this season .. I dont see how they trade him now when all off-season they didnt

I believe 100% they want either Fred / OG but they want to give us scraps and not include Claxton


And what if KD doesnt want to stay on a team with Simmons and Spencer. You can choose to believe what you want, I just dont think the package BKN got for Irving is convincing KD that Brooklyn is where he wants to be for the next 3 years.

BKN will get more value before the news of KD wanting out comes out either soon or in the summer.

The Nets as constructed are not beating Celtics or Bucks, and KD knows that. This is his legacy we are talking about and no way he wants to finish his last days with the Nets. People are all acting like Irving got traded for Luka and Durang should be happy.


KD has 3 yrs remaining. That's why your reasoning doesnt make much sense. If he was a rental or 1 yr left, then I could see it


So youll keep KD when he is disgruntled and his value continues to plummet. You can choose to believe Kd will shut up and stay put with Ben for 3 years but i choose to believe he will force his way out, he has already tried in the past, and he wont have any reservation in the future.

What package do you think Nets could get for Simmons?

Its absolute garbage they will get.

Durant will be out, its either now or in the summer. Up to Nets to determine if they get a better package in the summer or now.
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread III (Thurs Feb 9 3pm) 

Post#408 » by Tha Cynic » Mon Feb 6, 2023 9:10 pm

ATLTimekeeper wrote:
Tor_Raps wrote:Why the hell does anyone think the Nets would give up Claxton? Not only is he their only Center but he's young as hell. Like it makes 0 sense for anyone including in him in anything lol.


Because all they'd have to do is swing that Dallas FRP to San Antonio and they can bring in Poeltl to replace Claxton. In playoff terms, Claxton is an easily replaceable part.


I was actually just wondering about this :lol:
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread III (Thurs Feb 9 3pm) 

Post#409 » by MoMoneyMoProbs » Mon Feb 6, 2023 9:10 pm

ATLTimekeeper wrote:
MoMoneyMoProbs wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:oh baby come on

Read on Twitter


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This. I was trying to think back to which guys Masai has drafted and subsequently traded since he got here in 2013.

I think the only two are Jakob and Delon.


Norm.


Believe draft day deal to Raps via Bucks, but yes, you're correct.
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread III (Thurs Feb 9 3pm) 

Post#410 » by WuTang_CMB » Mon Feb 6, 2023 9:10 pm

mtcan wrote:
MoMoneyMoProbs wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:oh baby come on

Read on Twitter


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This. I was trying to think back to which guys Masai has drafted and subsequently traded since he got here in 2013.

I think the only two are Jakob and Delon.

It took 3 years for Masai to move on from Bruno...lol

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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread III (Thurs Feb 9 3pm) 

Post#411 » by PhilBlackson » Mon Feb 6, 2023 9:10 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:oh baby come on

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I know Masai likes to keep his cards tucked to his chest but good lawwwd make a damn move lol Kyrie was figured out in a day & half. I think if you just tell all the teams that are in "we're going to make a decision on X player by this time tomorrow, have you best offer ready", teams will do just that! lol

About only way I'm feeling like this is fine is if he really is trying to get all the best offers to clean house. Then I could somewhat understand perhaps you don't want teams to second guess a move with you based on public reaction to the first one but if this turns out where it's just one trade (or none at all) just get it over with already.
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread III (Thurs Feb 9 3pm) 

Post#412 » by Los_29 » Mon Feb 6, 2023 9:13 pm

Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:
Los_29 wrote:Celtics better be doing everything it can to get KD. They'd be extremely hard to beat if they were able to get him. I don't think they will make the same mistake they made in 2018 when they didn't pursue Kawhi. That decision cost them a championship.

If they gave up Smart, it would be a brutal mistake.


Smart is an excellent defensive player and a steady playmaker who doesn't turn the ball over. But he's an awful shooter. Celtics will try to keep him but I don't think they will let him prevent them from getting an all-time great in KD. Jaylen Brown plus loads of picks probably gets it done. Maybe Nets get greedy though and ask for Smart too but with less picks.
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread III (Thurs Feb 9 3pm) 

Post#413 » by Mr.Raptorsingh » Mon Feb 6, 2023 9:14 pm

Has Masai made a trade yet?
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread III (Thurs Feb 9 3pm) 

Post#414 » by DelAbbot » Mon Feb 6, 2023 9:14 pm

PhilBlackson wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:oh baby come on

Read on Twitter


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I know Masai likes to keep his cards tucked to his chest but good lawwwd make a damn move lol Kyrie was figured out in a day & half. I think if you just tell all the teams that are in "we're going to make a decision on X player by this time tomorrow, have you best offer ready", teams will do just that! lol

About only way I'm feeling like this is fine is if he really is trying to get all the best offers to clean house. Then I could somewhat understand perhaps you don't want teams to second guess a move with you based on public reaction to the first one but if this turns out where it's just one trade (or none at all) just get it over with already.


What could be at play is that Masai needs to line up several trades (to meet his asking price for all of them) before making a move on any of them. Because the first (sell) move will cause loss of leverage on subsequent trades, as it signals to opposing teams we finally decided on selling (this core)
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread III (Thurs Feb 9 3pm) 

Post#415 » by Los_29 » Mon Feb 6, 2023 9:15 pm

Zeno wrote:
Los_29 wrote:
Zeno wrote:John Collins, Capella for Simmons, Claxton, Philly '27 1st. Who says no?


Why do you hate the Nets so much? :lol:

I think this trade would be a win for the Nets at current values.


Collins and Capela have very little value around the league. That's not enough to get Simmons, Claxton and a FRP. Nowhere near enough.
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread III (Thurs Feb 9 3pm) 

Post#416 » by Bruin » Mon Feb 6, 2023 9:15 pm

Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:Has Masai made a trade yet?

Still evaluating
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Post#417 » by Harcore Fenton Mun » Mon Feb 6, 2023 9:16 pm

Los_29 wrote:
Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:
Los_29 wrote:Celtics better be doing everything it can to get KD. They'd be extremely hard to beat if they were able to get him. I don't think they will make the same mistake they made in 2018 when they didn't pursue Kawhi. That decision cost them a championship.

If they gave up Smart, it would be a brutal mistake.


Smart is an excellent defensive player and a steady playmaker who doesn't turn the ball over. But he's an awful shooter. Celtics will try to keep him but I don't think they will let him prevent them from getting an all-time great in KD. Jaylen Brown plus loads of picks probably gets it done. Maybe Nets get greedy though and ask for Smart too but with less picks.

They also wanted RWIII, they'd be gutted defensively.
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread III (Thurs Feb 9 3pm) 

Post#418 » by WuTang_CMB » Mon Feb 6, 2023 9:16 pm

PhilBlackson wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:oh baby come on

Read on Twitter


https://www.instagram.com/reel/CoVa_bkJaFY/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=


I know Masai likes to keep his cards tucked to his chest but good lawwwd make a damn move lol Kyrie was figured out in a day & half. I think if you just tell all the teams that are in "we're going to make a decision on X player by this time tomorrow, have you best offer ready", teams will do just that! lol

About only way I'm feeling like this is fine is if he really is trying to get all the best offers to clean house. Then I could somewhat understand perhaps you don't want teams to second guess a move with you based on public reaction to the first one but if this turns out where it's just one trade (or none at all) just get it over with already.


It's a seller's market so I can understand waiting a little longer. Plus I dont see many sellers either. Raps are in a good spot.

But overall I agree - we gotta shake this team up
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread III (Thurs Feb 9 3pm) 

Post#419 » by PhilBlackson » Mon Feb 6, 2023 9:18 pm

DelAbbot wrote:
PhilBlackson wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:oh baby come on

Read on Twitter


https://www.instagram.com/reel/CoVa_bkJaFY/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=


I know Masai likes to keep his cards tucked to his chest but good lawwwd make a damn move lol Kyrie was figured out in a day & half. I think if you just tell all the teams that are in "we're going to make a decision on X player by this time tomorrow, have you best offer ready", teams will do just that! lol

About only way I'm feeling like this is fine is if he really is trying to get all the best offers to clean house. Then I could somewhat understand perhaps you don't want teams to second guess a move with you based on public reaction to the first one but if this turns out where it's just one trade (or none at all) just get it over with already.


What could be at play is that Masai needs to line up several trades (to meet his asking price for all of them) before making a move on any of them. Because the first (sell) move will cause loss of leverage on subsequent trades, as it signals to opposing teams we finally decided on selling (this core)


I guess that could be fair enough....faaaack can we just fast forward the next 2-3 days already?! lool
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread III (Thurs Feb 9 3pm) 

Post#420 » by ATLTimekeeper » Mon Feb 6, 2023 9:18 pm

During the Tampa year Masai just kept Darryl on the phone and he had to bail and ended up with George Hill :lol: Hopefully he does the same here with Marks. These guys are our rivals. They don't have much to offer, when they should be having to pay a premium. Just keep KD from launching his trade request and flip OG to the West.

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