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Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread III (Thurs Feb 9 3pm)

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What will happen?

1 of Fred/OG/Trent/Siakam Traded
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2 of Fred/OG/Trent/Siakam Traded
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3 of Fred/OG/Trent/Siakam Traded
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11%
Double Down Trades (Poeltl / Turner / etc)
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5%
Nothing Happens
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread III (Thurs Feb 9 3pm) 

Post#901 » by Tha Cynic » Tue Feb 7, 2023 4:02 am

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Boogie! wrote:I watched the highlights he plays like gary trent on offense. Him and Gary on the same team would be lol/headache inducing.

He can get to the paint which Gary can’t do


Barnes as PG passing to these 2 gunners with Claxton under the rim might be fun to watch


Barnes would be much better playing with high IQ players rather than pure shooters. A lot of passes Barnes makes is with the trust that they see the same thing he sees and will move the ball to the next person. It already doesn't happen with this team so I can only imagine what having another guy like that would do to this offense.
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread III (Thurs Feb 9 3pm) 

Post#902 » by Tha Cynic » Tue Feb 7, 2023 4:04 am

alpngso wrote:So we would be okay with Siakam for Claxton + Cam + one or two 1sts after Cam going Kobe the last two games?


We should also throw in OG so they don't say no.
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread III (Thurs Feb 9 3pm) 

Post#903 » by StopitLeo » Tue Feb 7, 2023 4:04 am

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Raptors_128 wrote:We really went from arguing about Murphy III/Daniels/Sharpe/Cam Johnson/Keegan Murray to Cam **** Thomas for a Siakam/OG trade?

If Cam Thomas is headlining a Siakam/OG trade then fire Masai cause he’s washed.


Claxton my guy, dudes a beast and 23, legit rim protector and super athletic


He has one more year on his contract after this season and will be a UFA. Do you want to pay him $20 mill (Poeltl as a comparable) to retain him?

He’s also a sub-50% FT shooter so he’s not closing any games for you.

You don’t trade wings like Siakam/OG for a big like him. Just go after him or Poeltl in free agency.


A 24 year old athletic double-double rim protector? I’d pay him $20M easily. He’s only going to get better and in a few years the contract will look Ike great value.

The idea of trading Pascal for him is a joke though.
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread III (Thurs Feb 9 3pm) 

Post#904 » by mtcan » Tue Feb 7, 2023 4:04 am

Tha Cynic wrote:
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C_Money wrote:He can get to the paint which Gary can’t do


Barnes as PG passing to these 2 gunners with Claxton under the rim might be fun to watch


Barnes would be much better playing with high IQ players rather than pure shooters. A lot of passes Barnes makes is with the trust that they see the same thing he sees and will move the ball to the next person. It already doesn't happen with this team so I can only imagine what having another guy like that would do to this offense.

I think Barnes would be better playing with guys who can actually finish. His assist numbers would be much higher if guys he was around could actually make shots.
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread III (Thurs Feb 9 3pm) 

Post#905 » by Raptors_128 » Tue Feb 7, 2023 4:05 am

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Claxton my guy, dudes a beast and 23, legit rim protector and super athletic


He has one more year on his contract after this season and will be a UFA. Do you want to pay him $20 mill (Poeltl as a comparable) to retain him?

He’s also a sub-50% FT shooter so he’s not closing any games for you.

You don’t trade wings like Siakam/OG for a big like him. Just go after him or Poeltl in free agency.


OG should not be grouped in together with Siakam.

He's a super good 3 and D player. Thats it. Claxton's defensive contribution is nearly on par with OG's depending on how much yoou value rim protectors over wing defenders.

OG Siakam and Barnes will never work unless you have a finals MVP caliber PG or C so its not like we got a closing line up with OG in it either. Reason being all 3 are subpar iso scorers/ poor half court offence.


Come on man but somehow Barnes/Siakam/Claxton is going to work? That’s just awful.

I just don’t see getting a big like that as a need for this team. Raps are not competing for anything. Move these guys for young players on rookie contracts and/or future picks so you can open up some cap space and add some roster flexibility.
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread III (Thurs Feb 9 3pm) 

Post#906 » by Tha Cynic » Tue Feb 7, 2023 4:06 am

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Barnes as PG passing to these 2 gunners with Claxton under the rim might be fun to watch


Barnes would be much better playing with high IQ players rather than pure shooters. A lot of passes Barnes makes is with the trust that they see the same thing he sees and will move the ball to the next person. It already doesn't happen with this team so I can only imagine what having another guy like that would do to this offense.

I think Barnes would be better playing with guys who can actually finish. His assist numbers would be much higher if guys he was around could actually make shots.


He has good assist numbers for his role in the offense. The Raptors offense would be much better with high IQ players who could hit open shots. They don't need multiple GTJs to be successful.
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread III (Thurs Feb 9 3pm) 

Post#907 » by TheRaptor! » Tue Feb 7, 2023 4:07 am

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He has one more year on his contract after this season and will be a UFA. Do you want to pay him $20 mill (Poeltl as a comparable) to retain him?

He’s also a sub-50% FT shooter so he’s not closing any games for you.

You don’t trade wings like Siakam/OG for a big like him. Just go after him or Poeltl in free agency.


OG should not be grouped in together with Siakam.

He's a super good 3 and D player. Thats it. Claxton's defensive contribution is nearly on par with OG's depending on how much yoou value rim protectors over wing defenders.

OG Siakam and Barnes will never work unless you have a finals MVP caliber PG or C so its not like we got a closing line up with OG in it either. Reason being all 3 are subpar iso scorers/ poor half court offence.


Come on man but somehow Barnes/Siakam/Claxton is going to work? That’s just awful.

I just don’t see getting a big like that as a need for this team. Raps are not competing for anything. Move these guys for young players on rookie contracts and/or future picks so you can open up some cap space and add some roster flexibility.


Claxton is 23, thats pretty damn young too me.

Finally get that young double double rim protector averaging close to 3 blocks a game.
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread III (Thurs Feb 9 3pm) 

Post#908 » by Grew » Tue Feb 7, 2023 4:08 am

I don't like hearing about picks in 2027 or 2029. If you don't have a probable lotto pick in next years draft you aren't getting OG or Pascal imo. Unless you are attaching a young player who was just drafted in the lotto to one of those far out picks, and Brooklyn don't got that.
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Post#909 » by mtcan » Tue Feb 7, 2023 4:09 am

It's not called IQball...it's called basketball. :lol:
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread III (Thurs Feb 9 3pm) 

Post#910 » by Tha Cynic » Tue Feb 7, 2023 4:10 am

Masai must be sleeping now right?

I may as well go catch up on Last of Us.
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread III (Thurs Feb 9 3pm) 

Post#911 » by Raptors_128 » Tue Feb 7, 2023 4:11 am

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Claxton my guy, dudes a beast and 23, legit rim protector and super athletic


He has one more year on his contract after this season and will be a UFA. Do you want to pay him $20 mill (Poeltl as a comparable) to retain him?

He’s also a sub-50% FT shooter so he’s not closing any games for you.

You don’t trade wings like Siakam/OG for a big like him. Just go after him or Poeltl in free agency.


A 24 year old athletic double-double rim protector? I’d pay him $20M easily. He’s only going to get better and in a few years the contract will look Ike great value.

The idea of trading Pascal for him is a joke though.


Then go after him in free agency. There’s a reason 3-and-D wings like OG are so sought after in the league. You don’t trade that for a centre like him. Poeltl could be had for 2 firsts probably less because no one is biting on 2 firsts but we’re going to trade OG for Claxton? Come on now.
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread III (Thurs Feb 9 3pm) 

Post#912 » by DelAbbot » Tue Feb 7, 2023 4:12 am

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Basically looks like someone took the time to scan through RealGM posts and compile everything into a full story.


I hope the combined energy of the trade fvv threads actually brings it all to fruition.

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Post#913 » by douggood » Tue Feb 7, 2023 4:13 am

Grew wrote:I don't like hearing about picks in 2027 or 2029. If you don't have a probable lotto pick in next years draft you aren't getting OG or Pascal imo. Unless you are attaching a young player who was just drafted in the lotto to one of those far out picks, and Brooklyn don't got that.

that basically eliminates the market except for nop
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread III (Thurs Feb 9 3pm) 

Post#914 » by StopitLeo » Tue Feb 7, 2023 4:14 am

Raptors_128 wrote:
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He has one more year on his contract after this season and will be a UFA. Do you want to pay him $20 mill (Poeltl as a comparable) to retain him?

He’s also a sub-50% FT shooter so he’s not closing any games for you.

You don’t trade wings like Siakam/OG for a big like him. Just go after him or Poeltl in free agency.


A 24 year old athletic double-double rim protector? I’d pay him $20M easily. He’s only going to get better and in a few years the contract will look Ike great value.

The idea of trading Pascal for him is a joke though.


Then go after him in free agency. There’s a reason 3-and-D wings like OG are so sought after in the league. You don’t trade that for a centre like him. Poeltl could be had for 2 firsts probably less because no one is biting on 2 firsts but we’re going to trade OG for Claxton? Come on now.


I didn’t say trade OG for him. The most I would move is Fred and filler.
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread III (Thurs Feb 9 3pm) 

Post#915 » by Grew » Tue Feb 7, 2023 4:15 am

douggood wrote:
Grew wrote:I don't like hearing about picks in 2027 or 2029. If you don't have a probable lotto pick in next years draft you aren't getting OG or Pascal imo. Unless you are attaching a young player who was just drafted in the lotto to one of those far out picks, and Brooklyn don't got that.

that basically eliminates the market except for nop


good, cause all I want is Murphy/Daniels and that laker pick
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Post#916 » by WuTang_CMB » Tue Feb 7, 2023 4:15 am

Marks would be a fool to trade Claxton for FVV But i bet thats what Masai wants. Dont see a deal between them
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Post#917 » by LoveMyRaps » Tue Feb 7, 2023 4:16 am

Nets just took Cam Thomas off the table after that performance.

Claxton + Thomas + Simmons + Picks for Siakam is fair.
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread III (Thurs Feb 9 3pm) 

Post#918 » by Raptors_128 » Tue Feb 7, 2023 4:16 am

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OG should not be grouped in together with Siakam.

He's a super good 3 and D player. Thats it. Claxton's defensive contribution is nearly on par with OG's depending on how much yoou value rim protectors over wing defenders.

OG Siakam and Barnes will never work unless you have a finals MVP caliber PG or C so its not like we got a closing line up with OG in it either. Reason being all 3 are subpar iso scorers/ poor half court offence.


Come on man but somehow Barnes/Siakam/Claxton is going to work? That’s just awful.

I just don’t see getting a big like that as a need for this team. Raps are not competing for anything. Move these guys for young players on rookie contracts and/or future picks so you can open up some cap space and add some roster flexibility.


Claxton is 23, thats pretty damn young too me.

Finally get that young double double rim protector averaging close to 3 blocks a game.


It’s not only about age, it’s about control as well. Raps would only have him for one season beyond this year on a cheap contract.

I feel like we haven’t had a decent centre in so long that we are just overvaluing the position.
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread III (Thurs Feb 9 3pm) 

Post#919 » by ItsDanger » Tue Feb 7, 2023 4:16 am

Don't like Brooklyn assets and picks that far out have discounted value. Look elsewhere
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Post#920 » by djsunyc » Tue Feb 7, 2023 4:18 am

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