2023 trade deadline (February 9)

[Blame Rasho]

I don’t see the spurs getting any 1st round picks for any of their players that they have in the open market for trades. In anything they will be the team that ppl will dump bad contracts to get out of Lux tax and maybe they will get cash considerations and several 2nd rounders.

Well they got a 2nd rounder for dedmon

[Lockdown504090]

Anybody in Philly know if this guy is legit or not? Is he plugged in to the Sixers?

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They arent trading harris unless its for someone that can guard jaylen brown.
as of now their matchups are

smart maxey
brown harris
tatum tucker
horford embiid
grant williams/ harden

They arent trading unless it adds both wing defense and shooting. They are hoping for crowder, terrence ross, will barton and plumlee on a buyout for sure.

[SK21209]

Despite Tobias contract, which is somewhat overstated in this day and age as it will be an expiring next year, he is a very consistent and durable player. Also a glue type guy in the locker room. Coaches value him way more than fans.

If that report is legit and we could turn Russ into Harris/Korkmaz...I'd be really happy with that. We could have 2/3 of LeBron, Harris and Hachimura on the court at all times which is a massive improvement over what we had to start the season in our frontcourt.

[G R E Y]

I guess Dedmon only has $1.65 mil guaranteed after this season, so not great but not bad for the Spurs.

Yeah we had a roster spot left open after Dieng's second 10-day contract expired and of course the cap space to absorb it. Get a familiar big (wonder if we keep him or if it says anything about a potential Jakob deal?) and a pick out of it.

Now Heat have a roster spot and get more financially flexible as well (not sure of their cap situation).

EDIT to add:

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Don tells it like it is. Looks like roster spot will soon be open again.

Also, here's a breakdown of the deal:

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[FeatheryTouch]

Anybody in Philly know if this guy is legit or not? Is he plugged in to the Sixers?

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They arent trading harris unless its for someone that can guard jaylen brown.

Why the weird singular focus on trading for a Jaylen Brown (of all people) stopper?

Getting better overall is more important than finding a defender for one second banana star on a team that the Sixers are not even guaranteed to see in the playoffs. There are 28 other teams in the league you have to play, and maybe two dozen players I'd be more worried about stopping than Jaylen.

Weird.

Also, why can't Matisse Thybulle guard Brown?

[Lockdown504090]

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They arent trading harris unless its for someone that can guard jaylen brown.

Why the weird singular focus on trading for a Jaylen Brown (of all people) stopper?

Getting better overall is more important than slowing down one second banana star for a team the Sixers are not even guaranteed to see in the playoffs. There are 28 other teams in the league you have to play, and two maybe dozen players I'd be more worried about stopping.

Also, why can't Matisse Thybulle guard Brown?

its about playoff matchups. With brooklyn out of the picture, they need to shift the focus to bucks and nets. Philly has 2 weaknesses defensively.
1. joel being in drop coverage against pullup 3 point shooters. That threat is gone with kyrie.
2.teams with multiple big wing scorers that take advantage of the problematic harden+maxey minutes.

Mattise cant play in the playoffs on this specific team because hes an offensive liability and teams will make joel's like miserable since he isnt great at passing the ball already in normal situations. getting better overall isnt as important as being able to beat the boston celtics and milwauke bucks.

I love bojan, but him and harden and maxey on together is an all you can eat buffet. for the other team, as hard as it wouldbe to defend them.

[Bornstellar]

I guess Dedmon only has $1.65 mil guaranteed after this season, so not great but not bad for the Spurs.

Yeah we had a roster spot left open after Dieng's second 10-day contract expired and of course the cap space to absorb it. Get a familiar big (wonder if we keep him or if it says anything about a potential Jakob deal?) and a pick out of it.

Now Heat have a roster spot and get more financially flexible as well (not sure of their cap situation).

EDIT to add:

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Don tells it like it is. Looks like roster spot will soon be open again.

Also, here's a breakdown of the deal:

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When he says "fit" I assume he meant culture wise because in 2017 he was a solid fit backing up Pau

[G R E Y]

Spoiler:

I guess Dedmon only has $1.65 mil guaranteed after this season, so not great but not bad for the Spurs.

Yeah we had a roster spot left open after Dieng's second 10-day contract expired and of course the cap space to absorb it. Get a familiar big (wonder if we keep him or if it says anything about a potential Jakob deal?) and a pick out of it.

Now Heat have a roster spot and get more financially flexible as well (not sure of their cap situation).

EDIT to add:

Read on Twitter

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Don tells it like it is. Looks like roster spot will soon be open again.

Also, here's a breakdown of the deal:

Read on Twitter

When he says "fit" I assume he meant culture wise because in 2017 he was a solid fit backing up Pau

For sure. Jeff McDonald thinks Dedmon will get cut, too.

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The Spurs are not expected to keep Dedmon on the roster. If the club cannot flip Dedmon for further value before Thursday's trade deadline, he will likely be waived.

https://www.expressnews.com/sports/spurs/article/spurs-traded-dewayne-dedmon-miami-heat-17769217.php

The whole arguing with Spo incident in January didn't help him any but seems like it may not have been the first time that the fit was off for that reason.

[liquidswords]

Dedmon seems like a good fit for the Celtics if he's bought out and they can't find anyone on the trade market

[Bornstellar]

Spoiler:

Yeah we had a roster spot left open after Dieng's second 10-day contract expired and of course the cap space to absorb it. Get a familiar big (wonder if we keep him or if it says anything about a potential Jakob deal?) and a pick out of it.

Now Heat have a roster spot and get more financially flexible as well (not sure of their cap situation).

EDIT to add:

Read on Twitter

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Don tells it like it is. Looks like roster spot will soon be open again.

Also, here's a breakdown of the deal:

Read on Twitter

When he says "fit" I assume he meant culture wise because in 2017 he was a solid fit backing up Pau

For sure. Jeff McDonald thinks Dedmon will get cut, too.

Read on Twitter

The Spurs are not expected to keep Dedmon on the roster. If the club cannot flip Dedmon for further value before Thursday's trade deadline, he will likely be waived.

https://www.expressnews.com/sports/spurs/article/spurs-traded-dewayne-dedmon-miami-heat-17769217.php

The whole arguing with Spo incident in January didn't help him any but seems like it may not have been the first time that the fit was off for that reason.

Kinda surprised they took him at all after that incident. They must think they can flip him otherwise why pay Miami and have to eat his salary for a 2nd rounder 5 years out?

[HotelVitale]

Anybody in Philly know if this guy is legit or not? Is he plugged in to the Sixers?

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They arent trading harris unless its for someone that can guard jaylen brown.

Why the weird singular focus on trading for a Jaylen Brown (of all people) stopper?

Getting better overall is more important than finding a defender for one second banana star on a team that the Sixers are not even guaranteed to see in the playoffs. There are 28 other teams in the league you have to play, and maybe two dozen players I'd be more worried about stopping than Jaylen. Weird. Also, why can't Matisse Thybulle guard Brown?

There’s no fixation on J Brown, but finding a solid offensive player who can guard a guy like him is the only reason to move Tobias. Tobias is otherwise a good fit, spots up well and can create for himself if needed, great in transition and rebounds well from the 3, team defense is pretty alright. The Sixers don’t need his offensive production as much as other teams might, and we theoretically need wing defense more than we need Tobias’ creation. I doubt there’s a trade out there that makes sense but it likely would be for a good 3D guy if we did do something. Feel like if Tobias made like $22m a year he’d be talked about very favorably as a Sixers on realgm, he’s not a perfect fit but he’s definitely a nice player who’s figured out how to complement the other bigger fish.

(Also we won’t have cap space no matter what next year so it’s not important or even really relevant at all to move Tobias contract. All other things being equal it’d be good to drop it but not at any on court cost to the team).

[HotelVitale]

^Also Thybulle’s kinda interesting, he’s a super effective disrupter who you can never sleep on on defense, but on the average defensive half court possession he’s not really a stopper. Fouls a lot in those settings, gets beat to spots pretty regularly too. Even though he’ll also rip some steals and deflections from great players here and there.

His defense is always serviceable but since he doesn’t fill that one particular hole, it matters more that (as others have said) he hurts the spacing and offensive rotations/kicks so much. No Sixers fan is confident in him playing closing minutes in the PO.

[G R E Y]

Spoiler:

When he says "fit" I assume he meant culture wise because in 2017 he was a solid fit backing up Pau

For sure. Jeff McDonald thinks Dedmon will get cut, too.

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The Spurs are not expected to keep Dedmon on the roster. If the club cannot flip Dedmon for further value before Thursday's trade deadline, he will likely be waived.

https://www.expressnews.com/sports/spurs/article/spurs-traded-dewayne-dedmon-miami-heat-17769217.php

The whole arguing with Spo incident in January didn't help him any but seems like it may not have been the first time that the fit was off for that reason.

Kinda surprised they took him at all after that incident. They must think they can flip him otherwise why pay Miami and have to eat his salary for a 2nd rounder 5 years out?

Well Dedmon's 2023/24 contract isn't guaranteed, we essentially paid $1.67M for a 2nd round pick, and we likely still have a roster spot if/when Dedmon gets waived while giving the Heat some financial relief as well as a roster spot. It's good cap/pick stockpiling/relationship building management. Feels like the first domino of subsequent deals for both teams.

[Exp0sed]

Dedmon seems like a good fit for the Celtics if he's bought out and they can't find anyone on the trade market

Nuggets should snap him up as well if he's bought out

[G R E Y]

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[bisme37]

With Dedmon all I can think about now is when he yelled at Spoelstra and threw an electric massager on the court during live play last month lol.

I will not be surprised if the Spurs waive him. Doesn't seem like Pop's cup of tea.

[whatisacenter]

This is wild!

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While true, I doubt that they trade Wiseman at the deadline,and if they do, it won't be for nothing.

The tweet makes it sound like something the Warriors are looking to do but in reality it is just, Holinger, talking about teams in the tax with no sources sighted.

[Bornstellar]

This is wild!

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Give us a 1st and Wiseman for Dedmon

Honestly though Wiseman looks like a total bust, not sure I'd want to tie up money on him

[giberish]

This is wild!

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They'd almost certainly replace him. Even just a min salary buyout guy would lose some of that financial savings - but only $10-20M of it.

IMO there's no sane reason for GS to have Wiseman on the roster after the trade deadline. From a fan's perspective I'd hope they can deal him for quality replacement big, but given the finances I'd certainly understand them trading him to SA for cap relief and a fake 2nd (then signing Dedmon or some other available min salary big option). This would save a bunch of money and even make a (very marginal) improvement on-court.

Signs indicate that the Warriors' FO is delusionally high on Wiseman - or else has gone full in to a classic sunk cost fallacy.

[Onus]

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They'd almost certainly replace him. Even just a min salary buyout guy would lose some of that financial savings - but only $10-20M of it.

IMO there's no sane reason for GS to have Wiseman on the roster after the trade deadline. From a fan's perspective I'd hope they can deal him for quality replacement big, but given the finances I'd certainly understand them trading him to SA for cap relief and a fake 2nd (then signing Dedmon or some other available min salary big option). This would save a bunch of money and even make a (very marginal) improvement on-court.

Signs indicate that the Warriors' FO is delusionally high on Wiseman - or else has gone full in to a classic sunk cost fallacy.

Warriors fans are more worried about lacob’s pocketbook than lacob is. It is really a strange phenomenon that people will want to trade wiseman just to get rid of him and want to replace him with dedmon as if dedmon wouldn’t just ride pine as well all to save lacob money. Most other fans would be happy for their owner to spend money on a lottery ticket but not the warriors.