2023 Draft Prospect discussion

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What do people see in jarace walker I've watched a couples games and I wasnt Impressed. He does nothing at an elite level his defense is overated . He has a low block rate and his stls are exaggerated with the defense Houston plays . I've seen him get blown by multiple times on defense . Has ball. Handling skill so to me he's not a wing and he plays kinda soft. What skill is going to transfer to the pros I can only see his passing which is pretty solid ? I just feel taking him in the top 10 is a waste. But at the same everyone after the top 3 has major flaws

He's like Isaiah Stewart that can shoot 3's at 40% and SF skills in terms of passing and dribbling. He's no Banchero but at least a Jabari Smith level prospect.

[Psubs]

Having a lockdown defender at the point is so valuable. Once your first line of defense gets blown by the entire defense collapses.

Exactly. If he turns out 80% of Jrue then worth a pick #6-10 if don't move into the top 4.

[ItsDanger]

Will be funny when we trade for Claxton and then score Wemby *reversejinx*

Its a good point. Being this low, I don't see us acquiring a C (unless we're going for play in).

[aminiaturebuddha]

Count me amongst those who've been on the Cason Wallace train for a while. But I've also started gaining more and more of an appreciation for Anthony Black. He does a lot of things well, and is probably a better passer than Wallace (I've seen him make more advanced reads, whereas Wallace's are still fairly basic at this point).

I'm trying to be realistic and assume that we'll end up drafting somewhere in the 7-10 range. I would definitely be happy with Wallace or Black with a pick in there, as a potential FVV backcourt replacement.

And then if we could pick up another pick late-lottery to mid-first round at the trade deadline, go for one of the scorers/shooters with that pick, like Howard, Sensabaugh, Whitmore, Dick, Lewis, etc. Whoever's available and they like best in that range. I have to look at some more film to try to figure out my personal order of preference for those wing scorer types.

[Rapsfan07]

Having a lockdown defender at the point is so valuable. Once your first line of defense gets blown by the entire defense collapses.

Exactly. If he turns out 80% of Jrue then worth a pick #6-10 if don't move into the top 4.

I like Wallace if Wemby, Scoot, Miller, Whitmore, Walker and George are off the board.

[Thaddy]

Having a lockdown defender at the point is so valuable. Once your first line of defense gets blown by the entire defense collapses.

Exactly. If he turns out 80% of Jrue then worth a pick #6-10 if don't move into the top 4.

I like Wallace if Wemby, Scoot, Miller, Whitmore, Walker and George are off the board.

Hendricks would be a better fit for our team. Walker seems like he's afraid of contact and it's hard to teach guys to have that aggressive instinct. Walkers 240lbs and a man amongst boys but he's getting around 2 FTs a game.

Hendricks is 6'9, a great shooter, rebounder, and he gets 2 blocks a game. I would try to develop him into a big SG that we could put next to Scottie. Drafting him would bring the 6'9 vision even closer. You could potentially have a starting shooting guard taller than the opposing center. It would definitely be the biggest backcourt in the NBA.

[dozo]

Exactly. If he turns out 80% of Jrue then worth a pick #6-10 if don't move into the top 4.

I like Wallace if Wemby, Scoot, Miller, Whitmore, Walker and George are off the board.

Hendricks would be a better fit for our team. Walker seems like he's afraid of contact and it's hard to teach guys to have that aggressive instinct. Walkers 240lbs and a man amongst boys but he's getting around 2 FTs a game.

Hendricks is 6'9, a great shooter, rebounder, and he gets 2 blocks a game. I would try to develop him into a big SG that we could put next to Scottie. Drafting him would bring the 6'9 vision even closer. You could potentially have a starting shooting guard taller than the opposing center. It would definitely be the biggest backcourt in the NBA.

Outdside of the top 2 Walkers game checks off the most boxes. Philblkson is correct about his high character and work ethic.

I agree Hendricks would be a better fit next to SB. He fits the long boi lineup and provides spacing on offense.

I hate to say it cause I like his game, but Black doesn't fit well next to SB.

This is my big board (w/out the twins, Smith Jr):

1. Henderson- He deserves to at least be consider the #1.

2.Victor - length of career is the only concern (injuries)

3.Walker -can play from anywhere on court Off/Def. High character and great work ethic.

4.Miller- shooting 62% on open looks. 50% on catch shoot.

5.Cam-Super Raw. STRONG. Bad attitude. Has all the physical tools to become an allstar but lacks the drive. From the live games I watched, he was the biggest disappointment.

6.Brice- Best Scorer in the draft. Plays at his own pace. Good rebounder.

7.Jett- He will have know problem scoring against NBA size & length.

8.George- Big Shot Taker. He needs to clean up his game to reach his full potential.

9.Taylor Hendricks - the only prospect on my board that I haven't watched live. A 3 level scorer, efficient volume shooter. He has the highest ceiling outside the top 2.

10. Wallace- safest pick. Flawless, makes the right play.

11. Black- has a terrible habit of picking up his dribble. He isn't a scorer and will have to improve on catch & shoot if he wants to be a starter.

12. Murray- Shot maker. He's always in the right spot on O/D.

13. Noah Clowney- Straight up dog. Almost posting a DD pts/rbs as a freshman.

14. Graedy - surprisingly soft touch around the basket. He drops because of his man defense.

[HumbleRen]

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There goes his draft value lol

[UnbelievablyRAW]

Would like if Brice was a willing passer. Dude has so many Gary Trent statlines with 0-1 assists even with the great scoring. Hes not gonna be the go to guy anywhere he gets drafted so if hes coming in to chuck and can't be more offball hes gonna be benched a lot. Thats why even though he's 6'6 and 235 I'd rather take George over him. Simply for the extra playmaking while not giving up on the scoring too much if at all. The offball usefulness helps as well

With that said, I'd like to get him if we get a second non-lotto pick and guys like Dick and Wallace are gone. I'm assuming we are moving on from Fred and both George and Wallace/Brice are bigger guard/wing scorers with upside. Dick for his elite movement shooter next to Scottie who is a willing passer

Also, I see the physical comparisons with J. Brown with Cam Whitmore but dude is super raw and would need years to develop. His floor could be way lower than people are taking time to discuss

[Rapsfan07]

Would like if Brice was a willing passer. Dude has so many Gary Trent statlines with 0-1 assists even with the great scoring. Hes not gonna be the go to guy anywhere he gets drafted so if hes coming in to chuck and can't be more offball hes gonna be benched a lot. Thats why even though he's 6'6 and 235 I'd rather take George over him. Simply for the extra playmaking while not giving up on the scoring too much if at all. The offball usefulness helps as well

With that said, I'd like to get him if we get a second non-lotto pick and guys like Dick and Wallace are gone. I'm assuming we are moving on from Fred and both George and Wallace/Brice are bigger guard/wing scorers with upside. Dick for his elite movement shooter next to Scottie who is a willing passer

Also, I see the physical comparisons with J. Brown with Cam Whitmore but dude is super raw and would need years to develop. His floor could be way lower than people are taking time to discuss

I agree. I am not sold on Brice at all. He's a phenomenal scorer in college but I'm not convinced he will do that in the league and I have no idea who he's defending in the NBA as well. I would absolutely take George over him in a heartbeat.

If we managed to get a second lotto pick, I would look at Cason Wallace (if we went with George with our first) or Howard (if we went with Walker with our first).

I like Whitmore and still have a lot of faith in him but I do agree - his floor is a lot lower than most want to acknowledge. Still, his strength and overall skill set is going to be hard to ignore. He can create a little, shoot a little, cut, pretty damn athletic as well. We aint got nothing but time to develop him so if he's there an it's between him and the Thompson twins, I'd take my chances with him.

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Would like if Brice was a willing passer. Dude has so many Gary Trent statlines with 0-1 assists even with the great scoring. Hes not gonna be the go to guy anywhere he gets drafted so if hes coming in to chuck and can't be more offball hes gonna be benched a lot. Thats why even though he's 6'6 and 235 I'd rather take George over him. Simply for the extra playmaking while not giving up on the scoring too much if at all. The offball usefulness helps as well

With that said, I'd like to get him if we get a second non-lotto pick and guys like Dick and Wallace are gone. I'm assuming we are moving on from Fred and both George and Wallace/Brice are bigger guard/wing scorers with upside. Dick for his elite movement shooter next to Scottie who is a willing passer

Also, I see the physical comparisons with J. Brown with Cam Whitmore but dude is super raw and would need years to develop. His floor could be way lower than people are taking time to discuss

Brice could be 6'6 version of Cam Thomas or at minimum Aaron Nesmith.

[Rapsfan07]

I like Wallace if Wemby, Scoot, Miller, Whitmore, Walker and George are off the board.

Hendricks would be a better fit for our team. Walker seems like he's afraid of contact and it's hard to teach guys to have that aggressive instinct. Walkers 240lbs and a man amongst boys but he's getting around 2 FTs a game.

Hendricks is 6'9, a great shooter, rebounder, and he gets 2 blocks a game. I would try to develop him into a big SG that we could put next to Scottie. Drafting him would bring the 6'9 vision even closer. You could potentially have a starting shooting guard taller than the opposing center. It would definitely be the biggest backcourt in the NBA.

Outdside of the top 2 Walkers game checks off the most boxes. Philblkson is correct about his high character and work ethic.

I agree Hendricks would be a better fit next to SB. He fits the long boi lineup and provides spacing on offense.

I hate to say it cause I like his game, but Black doesn't fit well next to SB.

This is my big board (w/out the twins, Smith Jr):

1. Henderson- He deserves to at least be consider the #1.

2.Victor - length of career is the only concern (injuries)

3.Walker -can play from anywhere on court Off/Def. High character and great work ethic.

4.Miller- shooting 62% on open looks. 50% on catch shoot.

5.Cam-Super Raw. STRONG. Bad attitude. Has all the physical tools to become an allstar but lacks the drive. From the live games I watched, he was the biggest disappointment.

6.Brice- Best Scorer in the draft. Plays at his own pace. Good rebounder.

7.Jett- He will have know problem scoring against NBA size & length.

8.George- Big Shot Taker. He needs to clean up his game to reach his full potential.

9.Taylor Hendricks - the only prospect on my board that I haven't watched live. A 3 level scorer, efficient volume shooter. He has the highest ceiling outside the top 2.

10. Wallace- safest pick. Flawless, makes the right play.

11. Black- has a terrible habit of picking up his dribble. He isn't a scorer and will have to improve on catch & shoot if he wants to be a starter.

12. Murray- Shot maker. He's always in the right spot on O/D.

13. Noah Clowney- Straight up dog. Almost posting a DD pts/rbs as a freshman.

14. Graedy - surprisingly soft touch around the basket. He drops because of his man defense.

Hendricks is interesting...I'm not sure how I feel about him yet.
Jett is a sleeper for me. I think he has the chance to be special at the next level.
George...I've always liked him. Still do but that low FG% is pretty scary
Wallace is very safe. I like him a lot as well. I think he has the highest floor out of everyone in the lottery minus the top 2 guys.

I would not look at Gradey, Black, Murray or Clowney unless I am looking for a rotation role player. None of these guys project to have star potential and we really need that type of player right now. Right now, I'm liking George, Wallace, Walker and Howard in that 6-9 range.

[UnbelievablyRAW]

Would like if Brice was a willing passer. Dude has so many Gary Trent statlines with 0-1 assists even with the great scoring. Hes not gonna be the go to guy anywhere he gets drafted so if hes coming in to chuck and can't be more offball hes gonna be benched a lot. Thats why even though he's 6'6 and 235 I'd rather take George over him. Simply for the extra playmaking while not giving up on the scoring too much if at all. The offball usefulness helps as well

With that said, I'd like to get him if we get a second non-lotto pick and guys like Dick and Wallace are gone. I'm assuming we are moving on from Fred and both George and Wallace/Brice are bigger guard/wing scorers with upside. Dick for his elite movement shooter next to Scottie who is a willing passer

Also, I see the physical comparisons with J. Brown with Cam Whitmore but dude is super raw and would need years to develop. His floor could be way lower than people are taking time to discuss

Brice could be 6'6 version of Cam Thomas or at minimum Aaron Nesmith.

Which would be great for a 18-20th pick as bench scorer pick. Around our pick range I need someone more well rounded that

Even still, his defense is sus and he isn't super athletic for his size. Just looks like a more offensively gifted Rui Hachimura out there who was also a gifted scorer in college (not as good at 3's but still)

[aminiaturebuddha]

Hendricks is interesting...I'm not sure how I feel about him yet.
Jett is a sleeper for me. I think he has the chance to be special at the next level.
George...I've always liked him. Still do but that low FG% is pretty scary
Wallace is very safe. I like him a lot as well. I think he has the highest floor out of everyone in the lottery minus the top 2 guys.

I would not look at Gradey, Black, Murray or Clowney unless I am looking for a rotation role player. None of these guys project to have star potential and we really need that type of player right now. Right now, I'm liking George, Wallace, Walker and Howard in that 6-9 range.

This may be an unpopular opinion, because people have been talking about how deep this draft is for a while, but the more I dig into these prospects, the more I'm starting to believe that there isn't much star potential for anyone outside those top 2 guys. A lot of very good players, maybe 9-10 starter level players, maybe even a couple who get to an All-Star game or 2, but not many franchise changing talents.

[Rapsfan07]

Hendricks is interesting...I'm not sure how I feel about him yet.
Jett is a sleeper for me. I think he has the chance to be special at the next level.
George...I've always liked him. Still do but that low FG% is pretty scary
Wallace is very safe. I like him a lot as well. I think he has the highest floor out of everyone in the lottery minus the top 2 guys.

I would not look at Gradey, Black, Murray or Clowney unless I am looking for a rotation role player. None of these guys project to have star potential and we really need that type of player right now. Right now, I'm liking George, Wallace, Walker and Howard in that 6-9 range.

This may be an unpopular opinion, because people have been talking about how deep this draft is for a while, but the more I dig into these prospects, the more I'm starting to believe that there isn't much star potential for anyone outside those top 2 guys. A lot of very good players, maybe 9-10 starter level players, maybe even a couple who get to an All-Star game or 2, but not many franchise changing talents.

Not an unpopular opinion at all. I've had that opinion for quite a while and I think it's accurate.

[WuTang_CMB]

Whitmore still tops for me outside of top 2

need creation and toughness

how refreshing it will be for a supporting core player to get to the hoop

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[JShuttlesworth]

Read on Twitter

There goes his draft value lol

Bad look for him tbh

[Snowwy]

What do people see in jarace walker I've watched a couples games and I wasnt Impressed. He does nothing at an elite level his defense is overated . He has a low block rate and his stls are exaggerated with the defense Houston plays . I've seen him get blown by multiple times on defense . Has ball. Handling skill so to me he's not a wing and he plays kinda soft. What skill is going to transfer to the pros I can only see his passing which is pretty solid ? I just feel taking him in the top 10 is a waste. But at the same everyone after the top 3 has major flaws

He's no Banchero but at least a Jabari Smith level prospect.

Wow. Really? I don't see that at all.

[Thaddy]

I'm looking at highlights of Hendricks and he lacks creation ability but he is sound everywhere else. The lateral quicks are enough to keep up with perimeter players and be used in our defense. He can protect the rim and that is huge from your shooting guard, seeing a 6'9 player instead of a 6'4 player at the rim is a huge difference. His shot looks NBA ready and he is good enough in the post to score against smaller guards. He could fill into a Danny Green role immediately in his rookie season, that would be great next to Barnes and Siakam.

He has a lot of potential and he's been rising in the mocks very fast. If he performs in the tournament he will likely become a top 5 pick. He seems to lack that killer instinct to be the man down the stretch and looks to be deferring to the more senior players on his team.

Trade Fred and Boucher for Cam Johnson, Saric, and 2 1st(use first to get Poeltl)
Waive Young and/or Flynn to save money.
Sign Corey Joseph for partial MLE deal.

Poeltl - Saric (re-sign)
Siakam - Achiuwa
OG - Johnson
Trent - Hendricks - CoJo
Barnes - Banton - CoJo

We would have a lot of depth with Achiuwa, Johnson, Saric, and Joseph so we can put Hendricks, Koloko, and Banton through the development system. Although Banton should be ready now and if he isn't next year, he'll be playing out of the NBA.

[S.W.A.N]

I really hope we trade for a second lottery pick...

Outside the top 3 (Miller being the 3rd guy) I don't see a lot of separation. But there a lot of quality there.

I'd love to come out of this draft with one of Black or Wallace and then go for a scorer with the second pick.

Second round I want one of Edey or Trayce Jackson Davis. Their advance stats are excellent.

Even without winning the lottery we could do a lot to balance out our roster through this draft... A lead guard who can defend point of attack and doesn't need to be a high volume shooter or have ball in his hand.

An attack the hoop scorer or a lethal 3 point shooter

and another bench big with size or legit shot blocking talent.