Trade Deadline 10 Days Away - What Should We Do?

[Hello Brooklyn]

Masai is honestly an ****.

I don't see him trading us Siakim.

Even OG hes asking way too much.

I think John Collins is a solid move. Makes us bigger up front and adds rebounding. And we don't have to break the bank for him.

Naz Reid is another good option. Or Mo Bama.

With the emergence of Cam we may not need to go all in on another star.

If Lavine and Beal are on the table then you probably go for it though.

[Decipher]

First preference - Keep KD and make a push - it's rare in the NBA to have a legit shot at a title and I think with KD we do. Our roster is not far away, if we can add some size I think we have a roster that can go toe to toe with anybody. Sure we are not going to be favored against the Bucks in a series but you never know when injuries strike, as the Bucks could tell you... If KD wants to be here, you surround him with the best players that you can and pursue the title

Second preference - Trade KD for a package of good players + picks. I'd like an Ingram + picks package from the Pelicans

that would be my order too but in regards to the first preference - how far would you go to improve the roster? For example, would you do something that includes Claxton, Thomas, available picks for a Beal, Siakam, LaVine, etc.? I wouldn't.

100% with you, Clax and Cam are the 2 guys I wouldn't give up. Anybody else is good to go except maybe Ben since he has zero value right now and he's better than that.

And I really don't think Beal and Lavine are that much better than Cam, if we were to pursue a trade I'd go for size and physicality.

Beal & LaVine are fool's gold that come at a massive cost and would consign us to cap hell for years without any draft assets

If they're the cost of keeping KD then count me out

[Hello Brooklyn]

that would be my order too but in regards to the first preference - how far would you go to improve the roster? For example, would you do something that includes Claxton, Thomas, available picks for a Beal, Siakam, LaVine, etc.? I wouldn't.

100% with you, Clax and Cam are the 2 guys I wouldn't give up. Anybody else is good to go except maybe Ben since he has zero value right now and he's better than that.

And I really don't think Beal and Lavine are that much better than Cam, if we were to pursue a trade I'd go for size and physicality.

Beal & LaVine are fool's gold that come at a massive cost and would consign us to cap hell for years without any draft assets

If they're the cost of keeping KD then count me out

No reason to think they can't be a 2nd option with a star like KD.

I would do it for sure.

I don't honestly trust Siakim too much after his playoff meltdown in the bubble.

[sashaturiaf]

100% with you, Clax and Cam are the 2 guys I wouldn't give up. Anybody else is good to go except maybe Ben since he has zero value right now and he's better than that.

And I really don't think Beal and Lavine are that much better than Cam, if we were to pursue a trade I'd go for size and physicality.

Beal & LaVine are fool's gold that come at a massive cost and would consign us to cap hell for years without any draft assets

If they're the cost of keeping KD then count me out

No reason to think they can't be a 2nd option with a star like KD.

I would do it for sure.

I don't honestly trust Siakim too much after his playoff meltdown in the bubble.

Well we'd also be asking Siakam to be a 2nd/3rd option

When he melted down in the bubble he was the #1 wasn't he? and we'd be silly to ask him to be that

[Tha King]

100% with you, Clax and Cam are the 2 guys I wouldn't give up. Anybody else is good to go except maybe Ben since he has zero value right now and he's better than that.

And I really don't think Beal and Lavine are that much better than Cam, if we were to pursue a trade I'd go for size and physicality.

Beal & LaVine are fool's gold that come at a massive cost and would consign us to cap hell for years without any draft assets

If they're the cost of keeping KD then count me out

No reason to think they can't be a 2nd option with a star like KD.

I would do it for sure.

I don't honestly trust Siakim too much after his playoff meltdown in the bubble.

Siakam adds more to a team than the two of them imo

Siakam-KD-Din-DFS-O'Neale is peak switchability with three capable wing scorers that can playmake

Still, Siakam is a FA in two years and KD could request a trade at any moment in the offseason. So I wouldn't' be good with what it would take.

[Hello Brooklyn]

Beal & LaVine are fool's gold that come at a massive cost and would consign us to cap hell for years without any draft assets

If they're the cost of keeping KD then count me out

No reason to think they can't be a 2nd option with a star like KD.

I would do it for sure.

I don't honestly trust Siakim too much after his playoff meltdown in the bubble.

Well we'd also be asking Siakam to be a 2nd/3rd option

When he melted down in the bubble he was the #1 wasn't he? and we'd be silly to ask him to be that

He was. But he looked so bad man.

Like mentally cooked.

I'm not out on him. But to me I have questions about him.

[Hello Brooklyn]

Beal & LaVine are fool's gold that come at a massive cost and would consign us to cap hell for years without any draft assets

If they're the cost of keeping KD then count me out

No reason to think they can't be a 2nd option with a star like KD.

I would do it for sure.

I don't honestly trust Siakim too much after his playoff meltdown in the bubble.

Siakam adds more to a team than the two of them imo

Siakam-KD-Din-DFS-O'Neale is peak switchability with three capable wing scorers that can playmake

Still, Siakam is a FA in two years and KD could request a trade at any moment in the offseason. So I wouldn't' be good with what it would take.

Masai is just unreasonable though.

The guy wants Claxton. Not happening.

[Decipher]

Just to put things into perspective

Zach LaVine

5 years, $215 million

23.6 ppg, 38% 3 point on 36 mpg

Bung knees, no defence, passing or rebounding

Bradley Beal

5 years, $251 million

22.4 ppg, 36% 3 point on 33 mpg

No defence, passing or rebounding

Cam Thomas

4 years, $10.4 million

9.5 ppg, 44% 3 point on 15 mpg

I am not saying that Cam is better (or anywhere close yet) but we can basically get the same output per 36 from him at less than 3% of the cost without giving up a thing in a trade

[Hello Brooklyn]

Another strategy is to just keep our powder dry and wait till the off season.

Theres a chance Beal/Lillard are unhappy by then. We could probably offer an enticing package around Cam with several first rounders.

OR KD can ask out and we can get back a nice packages from the Suns. Perhaps Cam Johnson, Bridges and several picks.

[Hello Brooklyn]

Just to put things into perspective

Zach LaVine

5 years, $215 million

23.6 ppg, 38% 3 point on 36 mpg

Bung knees, no defence, passing or rebounding

Bradley Beal

5 years, $251 million

22.4 ppg, 36% 3 point on 33 mpg

No defence, passing or rebounding

Cam Thomas

4 years, $10.4 million

9.5 ppg, 44% 3 point on 15 mpg

I am not saying that Cam is better (or anywhere close yet) but we can basically get the same output per 36 from him at less than 3% of the cost without giving up a thing in a trade

Very small sample size with Cam. Once defenses focus on him, teams scout him, do we really think he keeps that production up over a long period of time.

I think he needs a few years to reach the level of those guys.

[sashaturiaf]

Just to put things into perspective

Zach LaVine

5 years, $215 million

23.6 ppg, 38% 3 point on 36 mpg

Bung knees, no defence, passing or rebounding

Bradley Beal

5 years, $251 million

22.4 ppg, 36% 3 point on 33 mpg

No defence, passing or rebounding

Cam Thomas

4 years, $10.4 million

9.5 ppg, 44% 3 point on 15 mpg

I am not saying that Cam is better (or anywhere close yet) but we can basically get the same output per 36 from him at less than 3% of the cost without giving up a thing in a trade

Very small sample size with Cam. Once defenses focus on him, teams scout him, do we really think he keeps that production up over a long period of time.

I think he needs a few years to reach the level of those guys.

Cam isn't the freak athlete Lavine is and he's not the pure shooter Beal is, but as a scorer I would not underestimate Cam since he might be as good as both of those guys.

I hate to say revert to the stats but at every single level Cam has been given minutes and shots he's been an elite scorer, from high school to college to summer league to the NBA. It has been a small sample in the NBA but he passes the eye test. Some elite scorers can't transition their game to the NBA due to size and physicality issues but Cam's shown he physically belongs in the NBA, he isn't a high flyer but he's got a solid build and great body control. He's not the guy shrinking out there, if anything he's got a team with PG and Kawhi scrambling to double him. Kid seems legit.

[OfficialRef]

Just to put things into perspective

Zach LaVine

5 years, $215 million

23.6 ppg, 38% 3 point on 36 mpg

Bung knees, no defence, passing or rebounding

Bradley Beal

5 years, $251 million

22.4 ppg, 36% 3 point on 33 mpg

No defence, passing or rebounding

Cam Thomas

4 years, $10.4 million

9.5 ppg, 44% 3 point on 15 mpg

I am not saying that Cam is better (or anywhere close yet) but we can basically get the same output per 36 from him at less than 3% of the cost without giving up a thing in a trade

Very small sample size with Cam. Once defenses focus on him, teams scout him, do we really think he keeps that production up over a long period of time.

I think he needs a few years to reach the level of those guys.

Cam isn't the freak athlete Lavine is and he's not the pure shooter Beal is, but as a scorer I would not underestimate Cam since he might be as good as both of those guys.

I hate to say revert to the stats but at every single level Cam has been given minutes and shots he's been an elite scorer, from high school to college to summer league to the NBA. It has been a small sample in the NBA but he passes the eye test. Some elite scorers can't transition their game to the NBA due to size and physicality issues but Cam's shown he physically belongs in the NBA, he isn't a high flyer but he's got a solid build and great body control. He's not the guy shrinking out there, if anything he's got a team with PG and Kawhi scrambling to double him. Kid seems legit.

No way.. this is too much.

People are caught up in the moment of his few good games. Kid is skilled but he doesn't have the elite qualities other elite scorers have. Height, Athleticism, insane shooting touch from 3, midrange, strength. Cam is good but hes a poole/Herro like player that can give you buckets off the bench.

[sashaturiaf]

Very small sample size with Cam. Once defenses focus on him, teams scout him, do we really think he keeps that production up over a long period of time.

I think he needs a few years to reach the level of those guys.

Cam isn't the freak athlete Lavine is and he's not the pure shooter Beal is, but as a scorer I would not underestimate Cam since he might be as good as both of those guys.

I hate to say revert to the stats but at every single level Cam has been given minutes and shots he's been an elite scorer, from high school to college to summer league to the NBA. It has been a small sample in the NBA but he passes the eye test. Some elite scorers can't transition their game to the NBA due to size and physicality issues but Cam's shown he physically belongs in the NBA, he isn't a high flyer but he's got a solid build and great body control. He's not the guy shrinking out there, if anything he's got a team with PG and Kawhi scrambling to double him. Kid seems legit.

No way.. this is too much.

People are caught up in the moment of his few good games. Kid is skilled but he doesn't have the elite qualities other elite scorers have. Height, Athleticism, insane shooting touch from 3, midrange, strength. Cam is good but hes a poole/Herro like player that can give you buckets off the bench.

I beg to differ this is no hot-take based on 2 games, I've always said Cam is an elite scoring prospect but this was the wrong team for him since KD and Kyrie were here which makes him go into his shell. Well now Kyrie is gone

Pure scoring wise he blows Poole and Herro out of the water, those 2 do have a better spot up shot so they might be the better overall player at this point but if you're saying give the ball to one of those guys to get a bucket? It's Cam every time

[Revived]

Just to put things into perspective

Zach LaVine

5 years, $215 million

23.6 ppg, 38% 3 point on 36 mpg

Bung knees, no defence, passing or rebounding

Bradley Beal

5 years, $251 million

22.4 ppg, 36% 3 point on 33 mpg

No defence, passing or rebounding

Cam Thomas

4 years, $10.4 million

9.5 ppg, 44% 3 point on 15 mpg

I am not saying that Cam is better (or anywhere close yet) but we can basically get the same output per 36 from him at less than 3% of the cost without giving up a thing in a trade

Very small sample size with Cam. Once defenses focus on him, teams scout him, do we really think he keeps that production up over a long period of time.

I think he needs a few years to reach the level of those guys.

Cam isn't the freak athlete Lavine is and he's not the pure shooter Beal is, but as a scorer I would not underestimate Cam since he might be as good as both of those guys.

I hate to say revert to the stats but at every single level Cam has been given minutes and shots he's been an elite scorer, from high school to college to summer league to the NBA. It has been a small sample in the NBA but he passes the eye test. Some elite scorers can't transition their game to the NBA due to size and physicality issues but Cam's shown he physically belongs in the NBA, he isn't a high flyer but he's got a solid build and great body control. He's not the guy shrinking out there, if anything he's got a team with PG and Kawhi scrambling to double him. Kid seems legit.

Guys like Brandon Roy and Devin Booker became star SGs in this league even without being a freak athlete or some top 5 shooter.

It’s not the norm but it’s definitely possible that Cam becomes at least an All Star caliber SG in the NBA.

Also just for fun

Spoiler:

Per 36 stats

Bradley Beal at age 21: 16 pts, 4 rebounds, 3 assists, 2 turnovers

Devin Booker at age 21: 22 pts, 3 rebounds, 3 assists, 3 turnovers

Zach Lavine at age 21: 18 pts, 3 rebounds, 2 assists, 1 turnover

DeMar Derozan at age 21: 18 pts, 4 rebounds, 2 assists, 2 turnovers

Cam Thomas at age 21: 21 pts, 3 rebounds, 3 assists, 2 turnovers

[MrDollarBills]

Scoring 40 pts back to back is pretty special regardless of Cam's athletic profile

[Tha King]

Scoring 40 pts back to back is pretty special regardless of Cam's athletic profile

It's how he can score too, he's a three-level scorer at 21. He's making open C&S threes away from already being an efficient scorer.

[CalamityX12]

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think this thread can be used for all trade rumors poo

[Sharcm1]

If they trade Clax I’m out. He should not be traded

[Netaman]

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think this thread can be used for all trade rumors poo

the issue with OG is how much is he better than what they already have with DFS/Simmons and what is that worth?

with Siakam it's clear that they are gaining a legit offensive player who upgrades the team because he be the 2nd creator.

instead of overpaying for OG, I think they'd probably improve the roster cheaper by getting Poetl so they can have a legit defensive C on the floor for 48 minutes and 12 good fouls to use on Embiid.

but if they can get siakam, that's a real gamechanger.

[Hello Brooklyn]

Yeah I don't see the point in giving up the farm for OG. Hes no All Star.

And frankly hes too small to really play the 4.

I would rather go for John Collins. The asking price will be lower and hes basically the same caliber of player.

If Siakim is on the table I would give a lot. But not Claxton.

I'm still praying that we can get either Lavine or Beal.

I think either of those guys puts us right at the top of the East again.

Washington especially should just trade Beal. Hes on a terrible contract and they need to just tank. Take a bunch of picks and Simmons. It makes sense.