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Re: 2022-2023 Trade thread 

Post#121 » by OGSactownballer » Sun Feb 5, 2023 8:42 am

BoogieTime wrote:what's becoming an underreported element of the domas/hali trade is hield, who is actually shooting better than Huerter now for the year, more boards, a tick below in assists.

I still dont like him personally, and think Huerter is the headier player, but was this a minus giving him up and giving up a first for Huerter?


Textbook Buddy.

It’s his contract year. He did exactly the same last time and got paid. You think he forgot that?

And playing next to Hali full time gets him wide open looks.

Huerter is a much higher BBIQ player and is taller and longer and more versatile in lineups than 6’4” undersized Buddy.

And ultimately Buddy becomes a locker room problem as we know. Give it a little time.
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Re: 2022-2023 Trade thread 

Post#122 » by OGSactownballer » Sun Feb 5, 2023 8:47 am

LightTheBeam wrote:Just posted this on the trade board. I don't see Sac making a Siakam level move, it would probably have to include Murray. Team is playing well, that's a move you explore this summer IMO when our 2023 pick is moveable.

Kings out: Davion, Holmes, Len, 2nds (as you see fit)
Kings in: Plumlee, Richardson

Charlotte out: Plumlee
Charlotte in: Alex Len, 2nd(s)?

Spurs out: Richardson
Spurs in: Holmes, Mitchell, 2nd?

Gives Sac a bench of Monk - Davis - Richardson - Lyles - Plumlee. We run the same offense as the starting lineup with Monk as the scoring guard, and Plumlee facilitating. We gain much better size, and add more shooting.


This doesn’t work. Monk is NOT a PG. I think we saw that plainly. As a sixth man combo he’s great. But as a true lead guard for a unit? He is too high in usage to make that work. It’s similar to Fox being efficient and looking great because Domas is actually the lead.

And I am not interested in Plumlee or Richardson the former is being overplayed tonivervalue him for trade. The second he’s gone they will be playing Mark Williams in all those minutes to develop him. And Richardson just had a bad injury history. You cannot count on him as a key piece.
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Re: 2022-2023 Trade thread 

Post#123 » by LightTheBeam » Sun Feb 5, 2023 3:03 pm

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LightTheBeam wrote:Just posted this on the trade board. I don't see Sac making a Siakam level move, it would probably have to include Murray. Team is playing well, that's a move you explore this summer IMO when our 2023 pick is moveable.

Kings out: Davion, Holmes, Len, 2nds (as you see fit)
Kings in: Plumlee, Richardson

Charlotte out: Plumlee
Charlotte in: Alex Len, 2nd(s)?

Spurs out: Richardson
Spurs in: Holmes, Mitchell, 2nd?

Gives Sac a bench of Monk - Davis - Richardson - Lyles - Plumlee. We run the same offense as the starting lineup with Monk as the scoring guard, and Plumlee facilitating. We gain much better size, and add more shooting.


This doesn’t work. Monk is NOT a PG. I think we saw that plainly. As a sixth man combo he’s great. But as a true lead guard for a unit? He is too high in usage to make that work. It’s similar to Fox being efficient and looking great because Domas is actually the lead.

And I am not interested in Plumlee or Richardson the former is being overplayed tonivervalue him for trade. The second he’s gone they will be playing Mark Williams in all those minutes to develop him. And Richardson just had a bad injury history. You cannot count on him as a key piece.


Well we just saw this vs Indiana. The team struggled heavily with Mitchell/Delly running the point. When we benched both and turned to Monk we came back from down 19.

Not sure why usage matters in this scenario. But as I explained earlier, the kings run a system where one of sabonis/fox are always in, so monk will always be playing with one of them and never really leading the team.

Stein already reported sac is interested in plumlee. We don't know the asking price so impossible to say what his value is. May just be expirings + 2nd.

As for richardson, I'm not aware of any significant injury history like torn acl, Achilles, etc.. but he's just a suggestion. Maybe other versitile wings could fill that same role.

Main thing is getting davion and Holmes off the roster. Neither fit with this team. It opens a ton of cap space and makes us better this year. It's really a no brainer. However I doubt davion has any value left around the league.
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Re: 2022-2023 Trade thread 

Post#124 » by donkeylips » Tue Feb 7, 2023 8:55 pm

anyone ever see kessler edwards play?
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Re: 2022-2023 Trade thread 

Post#125 » by LightTheBeam » Tue Feb 7, 2023 9:02 pm

donkeylips wrote:anyone ever see kessler edwards play?


Nope. Seems like a cash move for Vivek
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Post#126 » by OxAndFox » Wed Feb 8, 2023 2:58 am

donkeylips wrote:anyone ever see kessler edwards play?


I've seen him a couple of times. I like him. Very raw and can't shoot. But he hustles on D and if I remember he was a lob threat. Very athletic and long.
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Post#127 » by OxAndFox » Wed Feb 8, 2023 2:59 am

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donkeylips wrote:anyone ever see kessler edwards play?


Nope. Seems like a cash move for Vivek


Well he has to pay for Sabonis' AS bonus and maybe Fox too. lol
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Post#128 » by City of Trees » Wed Feb 8, 2023 4:11 am

I like the trade. Used TPE and rights to an overseas player to get a free look at a young player at a position of need.
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Re: 2022-2023 Trade thread 

Post#129 » by BoogieTime » Wed Feb 8, 2023 4:12 am

Gearing up for a non eventful deadline. We aren't even in the OG reported mix. Ill take Monte at his word that he likes the team and advanced stats the healthy starting lineup is producing. not sure we have the goods to add a plumlee, as im not sure Davion has value despite wanting him out.
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Re: 2022-2023 Trade thread 

Post#130 » by City of Trees » Wed Feb 8, 2023 4:30 am

I want Jarred Vanderbilt. His skillset has a lot of what the Kings need.

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Re: 2022-2023 Trade thread 

Post#131 » by LightTheBeam » Wed Feb 8, 2023 5:42 am

City of Trees wrote:I want Jarred Vanderbilt. His skillset has a lot of what the Kings need.



I'm in. How? Seems like he's going to cost a 1st. Basically takes us out of any big deal for at least a few years.

If the price is 2nds then he should be a king by thursday!
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Post#132 » by City of Trees » Wed Feb 8, 2023 6:00 am

LightTheBeam wrote:
City of Trees wrote:I want Jarred Vanderbilt. His skillset has a lot of what the Kings need.



I'm in. How? Seems like he's going to cost a 1st. Basically takes us out of any big deal for at least a few years.

If the price is 2nds then he should be a king by thursday!
Tony Jones, who covers the Jazz, said yesterday the Jazz have an offer from a western conference team that nets them multiple 2nds for Vanderbilt.

Do it!
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Re: 2022-2023 Trade thread 

Post#133 » by LightTheBeam » Wed Feb 8, 2023 6:28 am

City of Trees wrote:
LightTheBeam wrote:
City of Trees wrote:I want Jarred Vanderbilt. His skillset has a lot of what the Kings need.



I'm in. How? Seems like he's going to cost a 1st. Basically takes us out of any big deal for at least a few years.

If the price is 2nds then he should be a king by thursday!
Tony Jones, who covers the Jazz, said yesterday the Jazz have an offer from a western conference team that nets them multiple 2nds for Vanderbilt.

Do it!


If that's the price it shouldn't even be a question.

I'm shocked he could be priced so low. 23 years old, good size, added somewhat of a 3pt shot to his game this year, good defender, decent rebounder. How does a guy like this go so cheap? I'd trade for him in a heart beat if the price is Len + 4 2nds. We sell them every year anyways.
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Re: 2022-2023 Trade thread 

Post#134 » by OGSactownballer » Wed Feb 8, 2023 7:25 am

LightTheBeam wrote:
City of Trees wrote:
LightTheBeam wrote:
I'm in. How? Seems like he's going to cost a 1st. Basically takes us out of any big deal for at least a few years.

If the price is 2nds then he should be a king by thursday!
Tony Jones, who covers the Jazz, said yesterday the Jazz have an offer from a western conference team that nets them multiple 2nds for Vanderbilt.

Do it!


If that's the price it shouldn't even be a question.

I'm shocked he could be priced so low. 23 years old, good size, added somewhat of a 3pt shot to his game this year, good defender, decent rebounder. How does a guy like this go so cheap? I'd trade for him in a heart beat if the price is Len + 4 2nds. We sell them every year anyways.


I’m not sure what his contract status is, but that has the distinct smell of - he will need to be extended and they don’t want to have to overpay.

We on the other hand can afford to pay him for the potential and development as he comes into his prime because we can simply let Barnes walk if we feel he is an upgrade (I think so based in his development/athleticism and youth).
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Re: 2022-2023 Trade thread 

Post#135 » by They_Them_Hatin » Wed Feb 8, 2023 6:18 pm

donkeylips wrote:anyone ever see kessler edwards play?

Nets fan here. I like Kessler. He’s very raw and can’t shoot but is a decent defender. I think he’s a good project for y’all.
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Post#136 » by City of Trees » Wed Feb 8, 2023 6:22 pm

Bobby Marks shared the Nets sent Edwards remaining salary plus an additional $2M in cash. Beam upgrades incoming
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Post#137 » by OxAndFox » Wed Feb 8, 2023 7:42 pm

James Ham still believes the Kings will have 2 players join them. The usual suspects were talked about, Plumlee, Richardson, Thybulle.
He hinted at Monk becoming the back up PG, which obviously means Davion gets traded. I don't mind the Kings searching for a Davion trade, but I don't like Monk as the back up PG. He is too loose with the ball.
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Re: 2022-2023 Trade thread 

Post#138 » by LightTheBeam » Wed Feb 8, 2023 7:58 pm

OxAndFox wrote:James Ham still believes the Kings will have 2 players join them. The usual suspects were talked about, Plumlee, Richardson, Thybulle.
He hinted at Monk becoming the back up PG, which obviously means Davion gets traded. I don't mind the Kings searching for a Davion trade, but I don't like Monk as the back up PG. He is too loose with the ball.


You are overthinking it, especially if the targets are Plumlee/Richardson.

Aside from Fox, our offense is built around ball movement. There's no need for a traditional backup point guard. Additionally when Fox goes out, Sabonis is in. So you are talking Monk/Sabonis which has proven to be a really potent pairing.

That said, the more the rumors of these guys come out, the less I think its actually going to happen. Monte has never leaked anything before he's done it. I started to get the feeling the last few days that something bigger may be brewing. Although Id be happy with a few minor ones around the edges before making a bigger move this off-season.
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Post#139 » by City of Trees » Wed Feb 8, 2023 9:46 pm

I personally don't see a trade happening
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Re: 2022-2023 Trade thread 

Post#140 » by BoogieTime » Wed Feb 8, 2023 10:38 pm

City of Trees wrote:I personally don't see a trade happening


Davion and Holmes have little to no value, and I can’t picture giving up a first for some of the names I’ve heard like thybulle and plumlee where I imagine 2nds won’t do it. I’m imagining the same roster with a slight change here or there

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