2022-23 Season Discussion and Speculation 4 - Trade season continues - No player trade restrictions

[navysully]

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Yeah, no f'ing way. That's a super over payment.

[bwoolf2]

Twitter users are losers and bots. I literally don’t know a single person that actually uses Twitter.

Actually in the tech space it's extremely valuable, more so than any of the other platforms by a lot.

[bwoolf2]

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Yeah, no f'ing way. That's a super over payment.

We would be lucky to make the play in game and certainly wouldn't have enough to survive a playoff series.

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

Whatever happens, I'd love for this group to be able to win without major changes. I love this team the way it is. I know it's very unlikely to happen, but it would be the best.

Amazing what a few wins can do for a fanbase. This board and Suns reddit have rabid in their desire to make a bad trade until recently.

We could stand to upgrade our bench, and it would be nice to get a quality PG who is willing to shoot more often than every fifth game. Question is whether we can project Payne to recover from his injury and get to 100% before the end of the season. Shamet's been out a while too, and Okogie can't shoot. Right now, Saben Lee is our best bench guard.

So, I could see us ponying up for a solid scoring guard. A flamethrower off the bench really could put us over the top. We'll see. I'm skeptical of the idea that we can get a CP3 replacement this season for several reasons, but Russell or Rozier could come off the bench. Can Russell play within our system? I don't like him as a long-term starter because he's got sh*t for brains, but I'd be okay with him as a rental. Dinwiddie would be great in that role. Maybe Eric Gordon gets bought out, but I'd consider him insurance more than anything, as Payne and maybe even Shamet(!) are better if healthy. Connaughton would be better... maybe Dragic? I prefer Goran to Coby White to be honest.

Bones Hyland fits the bill best. If the Knicks need a future first for a trade, Quickley would be great too, but I don't think he's available.

Bottom line: No big trades. A big trade would almost certainly take us out of contention. It sounds like Ishbia shares that perspective. Good!

[Ghost of Kleine]

I know the answer, just throwing scenarios against the wall to see if they quasi make sense so close to the deadline. Miami wants Jae but all they want to do is dump Duncan Robinson. Would you guys do it if it also meant they took Shamet and gave draft capitol?

If they actually would take back Shamet AND ALSO send back draft Capital, then yes, I would ( If money is truly not an issue for Ishbia)??? I say this only because clearly Robinson is a much better shooter than Shamet and with more size too. He'll inevitably bounce back and recoup his value. And with the coming cap increases too, his contract won't look that bad either!

[NavLDO]

I have seen different reports about Grant Williams being available and I like him.

Yeah, he will be paid next year (like Cam Johnson) but we can deal with that later.

Crowder + 2nd for Grant Williams and Gallinari (filler) would be fair enough?

I would think that if Williams were available for that kinda price, he would have been dealt already.

Not necessarily. At initial look, sure, but Boston is 'reportedly' concerned about what type of contract Williams will want this summer. So, for a bit of a downgrade, they get a similar 'type' of player, who will cost much less this summer, if they are interested, and while Danilo Galinari does have a $3M+ DPE, that is still something they can offload. Gallinari has to be considered about done, being 35, and coming back from an ACL next season. For their troubles, they also get a 2nd to use as they please.

I agree, it does look a little low, so maybe 2 x 2nds? I would think that even a heavily protected 1st would be a little rich from our end, but maybe not...

[Saberestar]

For what feels like the umpteenth season, Eric Gordon is available on the trade market. The Houston Rockets have yet to deal the veteran guard, but the Phoenix Suns and LA Clippers are the most recent teams to express interest in dealing for Gordon.

Gordon started his career with the Clippers. He played his first three seasons in Los Angeles before being traded to the then New Orleans Hornets as part of the deal that brought Chris Paul to the Clippers. Gordon spent five years with the Hornets/Pelicans, before joining the Rockets in 2016.

The Suns have been on the hunt for additional shooting and wing help. Phoenix has offered Jae Crowder, as well as other package to various teams to bring in more bench depth.

If Gordon isn't traded by Thursday's deadline, it's not likely he'll work a buyout with Houston. Both sides will continue together into the offseason, when Gordon has a $20.9 million non-guaranteed contract.

https://theathletic.com/4165190/2023/02/08/rockets-trade-deadline/

[RedIndian]

Forward Jae’Sean Tate is another player on the roster who has drawn interest from teams, including the Suns, Denver Nuggets, Boston Celtics and Washington Wizards, team and league sources said. The Rockets aren’t looking to trade the 27-year-old forward who is internally regarded as one of the most important pieces of this youthful roster — but as is the case with any player, if there was a “can’t-turn-down” type offer, it would be considered, those sources said. Tate is highly valued within the organization because of his attention to detail, playmaking ability, unselfish play style and most importantly, his defensive intensity and versatility. He’s also seen as the bridge of sorts — connecting the rebuild to the future and how they envision the roster in the coming months.

[matt131]

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[Saberestar]

Forward Jae’Sean Tate is another player on the roster who has drawn interest from teams, including the Suns, Denver Nuggets, Boston Celtics and Washington Wizards, team and league sources said. The Rockets aren’t looking to trade the 27-year-old forward who is internally regarded as one of the most important pieces of this youthful roster — but as is the case with any player, if there was a “can’t-turn-down” type offer, it would be considered, those sources said. Tate is highly valued within the organization because of his attention to detail, playmaking ability, unselfish play style and most importantly, his defensive intensity and versatility. He’s also seen as the bridge of sorts — connecting the rebuild to the future and how they envision the roster in the coming months.

That's an interesting player.

I have always admired his defense and rebounding...especially rebounding. He plays much bigger than his size.

[MrMiyagi]

We should just be looking to upgrade Crowder into someone who plays. I don't mind giving up draft picks to do it. But don't gut our roster just to land a big name that'll throw things off.

[Saberestar]

Indiana Pacers have "expressed exploratory interest" in trading for Matisse Thybulle, via @MikeAScotto

Other teams mentioned: Blazers, Bucks, Mavericks, Hornets, Raptors, and Suns.

[matt131]

Indiana Pacers have "expressed exploratory interest" in trading for Matisse Thybulle, via @MikeAScotto

Other teams mentioned: Blazers, Bucks, Mavericks, Hornets, Raptors, and Suns.

Isn't Thybulle just Josh Okogie? Lol I'd rather keep the one we have.

[bwoolf2]

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Team will regret trading for him for a decade if it's anything but cam Johnson Crowder salary filler and picks.

[NavLDO]

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That was fast

Mat logged on to Twitter and saw EVERYONE killing him for this lol

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No, the social media anylyst, under the HR/IT Department Supervisor, under the HR Manager, under the VP for Press Relations, under the Chief Communication Officer informed Mat that Twitter was blowing up about Isiah Thomas...

...C'mon folks, Mat has 'people' for this kinda thing; he doesn't actually read and post on his own Twitter account...pfff

[bwgood77]

Twitter users are losers and bots. I literally don’t know a single person that actually uses Twitter.

Twitter is good for actual reporters/news, links to things, and there are some solid Suns fans with stuff on there (IVPointPlay being probably the best obvious one). But there are tons of cringe users. The Xin guy, for example, used to post some pretty good stuff. Now he just tries to be funny but has the worst sense of humor of about anyone I've ever seen.

[carey]

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Yeah, no f'ing way. That's a super over payment.

We would be lucky to make the play in game and certainly wouldn't have enough to survive a playoff series.

It depends on the buyout market & what else we can add but if you're not moving Ayton in that deal and you're rolling out 2 of the most unstoppable pure scorers on the same team along with a Chris Paul? You're really good. I just don't know who would pick up the defensive assignments Bridges usually takes. It's not like elite wings grow on trees. Would we have enough capital left over to get a guy like Dyson Daniels from NOLA?

[Fo-Real]

Small deadline, Crowder, Saric for Dogie McBuckets and Zach Collins. Doug is smart and a knock down shooter while colllins bolsters our size off the bench a pf. If no better players shake free for us. This is a salary dump for the Spurs, we would probably have to add a pick.

[WeekapaugGroove]

That was fast

Mat logged on to Twitter and saw EVERYONE killing him for this lol

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No, the social media anylyst, under the HR/IT Department Supervisor, under the HR Manager, under the VP for Press Relations, under the Chief Communication Officer informed Mat that Twitter was blowing up about Isiah Thomas...

...C'mon folks, Mat has 'people' for this kinda thing; he doesn't actually read and post on his own Twitter account...pfff

For sure. But that's why it was so confusing because you would have thought ANY of those people could have told Mat that hiring Isiah would be a PR disaster.

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[bwgood77]

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I know people want KD but I don't want him AT all for anything like that. To trade Cam and Bridges and 2/3 first rounders, that's ridiculous to me. This offseason is bad enough but this season we don't even know when KD would be back or IF he will be back. Probably..they say sometime after the all star break but that is March.

I honestly don't think even if we have interest we would give up Bridges and Cam or even just Bridges and 2 firsts. I am not even sure Bridges and 1 first. I know many think it would be ridiculous not to trade Bridges for KD or think we should trade anyone but Book and as many picks as we need for K...and to go "all in", but it doesn't make sense to me in the long run.

I think the most we would offer is Cam, Ayton and one first..maybe two. I would say Cam, filler and two firsts but this summer we wouldn't have enough filler unless we S&T'd Crowder. Do they need a guy like Crowder with DFS and O"Neale? Do they really need Cam with those guys and Harris? You could even say even though Bridges is better is the upgrade from DFS/O Neale enough to beat what other teams offer? Do we REALLY want to trade Ayton? I know many do, but do the Nets want him? As much as people don't like him or think he only plays well 1 out of every 5 games or don't like that he doesn't appear to put in 100% effort 100% of the time, but he is still only 24 and no doubt will get quite a bit better....for those who say he is what he is...no, he still has plenty of upside.

People act like we are terrible because we failed and lost a close series to the Bucks in the finals and then had a terrible game 7 and not great game 6 vs the Mavs in the 2nd round...but something wasa obviously wrong with Paul. We do need to fix the starting lineup post Paul, and I'm not sure the best solution...which is why I asked the poll question but there could be several ways to go about it.