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2022-23 Season Discussion and Speculation 4 - Trade season continues - No player trade restrictions

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Initial thoughts on KD for Bridges, Cam, Crowder, plus picks?

Love it!
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Post#2601 » by WeekapaugGroove » Wed Feb 8, 2023 11:06 pm

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Blonde wrote:Russell + Vanderbilt makes all the sense in the world for Phoenix and they appear to be relatively attainable. Phoenix needs to outbid LA’s measly offer and be the 3rd team in this.

Phx In: Russell, Vanderbilt
Phx Out: Saric, Crowder, Craig, 1st round pick

Min In: Conley, Crowder
Min Out: Russell, 2nd round pick

Utah In: Saric, Craig, Phx 1st, Min 2nd
Utah Out: Vanderbilt, Conley

Balance it out however is needed with additional picks or salary where needed, but we need to be all over this.


Seems close to fair but I cant help but think Min is getting the short end of the stick. Depends on how they value Russell. Like is Crowder and Conley really that much of an improvement?

And I guess getting out of Conley's contract is enough for Utah to accept only 1 FRP coming back.
Conley would be a huge improvement over DLo for them. An adult who understands how to get that team into it's offense would be huge for them.

I guess I could talk myself into DLo with Phoenix as a bench guy but I have a feeling that some of y'all who want him now will hate him very quickly after watching him night after night.

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Post#2602 » by Waylay13 » Wed Feb 8, 2023 11:10 pm

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Blonde wrote:Russell + Vanderbilt makes all the sense in the world for Phoenix and they appear to be relatively attainable. Phoenix needs to outbid LA’s measly offer and be the 3rd team in this.

Phx In: Russell, Vanderbilt
Phx Out: Saric, Crowder, Craig, 1st round pick

Min In: Conley, Crowder
Min Out: Russell, 2nd round pick

Utah In: Saric, Craig, Phx 1st, Min 2nd
Utah Out: Vanderbilt, Conley

Balance it out however is needed with additional picks or salary where needed, but we need to be all over this.


Suns cannot miss on DLo


Yes we can, Just say no to Idiots.
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Post#2603 » by TeamTragic » Wed Feb 8, 2023 11:12 pm

Waylay13 wrote:
BobbieL wrote:
Blonde wrote:Russell + Vanderbilt makes all the sense in the world for Phoenix and they appear to be relatively attainable. Phoenix needs to outbid LA’s measly offer and be the 3rd team in this.

Phx In: Russell, Vanderbilt
Phx Out: Saric, Crowder, Craig, 1st round pick

Min In: Conley, Crowder
Min Out: Russell, 2nd round pick

Utah In: Saric, Craig, Phx 1st, Min 2nd
Utah Out: Vanderbilt, Conley

Balance it out however is needed with additional picks or salary where needed, but we need to be all over this.


Suns cannot miss on DLo


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I agree but did you watch the playoffs last season?
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Post#2604 » by Slim Charless » Wed Feb 8, 2023 11:13 pm

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Post#2605 » by Slim Charless » Wed Feb 8, 2023 11:15 pm

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Saberestar wrote:If he is bought out I want Westbrook. No doubt about it.
Can't get enough of those errant Torrey Craig passes late in games, huh?


I don't think its gonna matter. I saw that Miami is lurking for him. Westbrook was born to play in South Beach. Manifest destiny.
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Post#2606 » by spanishninja » Wed Feb 8, 2023 11:16 pm

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One of the few things Espo gets right


however, right now it really seems other teams are doing this to the Suns, knowing that we are still trying to push for KD and thus making all these other moves to leave us out to dry again.
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Post#2609 » by matt131 » Wed Feb 8, 2023 11:26 pm

On one of his interviews with PHNX, Mat Ishbia apparently said he's open to having a G league team but doesnt know the timeline for acquiring one.
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Post#2610 » by Waylay13 » Wed Feb 8, 2023 11:28 pm

TeamTragic wrote:
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BobbieL wrote:
Suns cannot miss on DLo


Yes we can, Just say no to Idiots.


I agree but did you watch the playoffs last season?


Yes i did, Do you see DLOs shooting for the playoff last year? You know where he shot .333.

How about when he was with the Nets? and shot .359%. Or the fact that he doesnt play defense?
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Post#2611 » by lilfishi22 » Wed Feb 8, 2023 11:28 pm

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What a massive misstep for an otherwise flawlessly run organisation. They had an opportunity few teams in history ever had and they completely whiffed on it. Coming off B2B finals appearances to have a tanktastic season and ending up with a #2 pick in the draft is something all 29 other teams would wish for. Some might know NBA history better than myself but the closest team that comes to mind is the late 90's Spurs which had a really really good team with an elite talent in Admiral but never could quite get to the Finals. D.Rob is out of most of teh 97 season with an injury, Spurs tank and they get the #1 pick which directly led to drafting a top 10 player of all time in TD which led to a title a year later and the rest is history.

I don't think the Warriors are all that hurt with those 4 titles to their name but they could've used that #2 pick to get their next franchise guy once Steph is done. Granted it wasn't a great draft but still had some good talent in there. Like can you imagine if they traded down for like a #8-10 pick plus another future top pick or a budding star player and took Haliburton instead.
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Post#2612 » by WeekapaugGroove » Wed Feb 8, 2023 11:34 pm

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What a massive misstep for an otherwise flawlessly run organisation. They had an opportunity few teams in history ever had and they completely whiffed on it. Coming off B2B finals appearances to have a tanktastic season and ending up with a #2 pick in the draft is something all 29 other teams would wish for. Some might know NBA history better than myself but the closest team that comes to mind is the late 90's Spurs which had a really really good team with an elite talent in Admiral but never could quite get to the Finals. D.Rob is out of most of teh 97 season with an injury, Spurs tank and they get the #1 pick which directly led to drafting a top 10 player of all time in TD which led to a title a year later and the rest is history.

I don't think the Warriors are all that hurt with those 4 titles to their name but they could've used that #2 pick to get their next franchise guy once Steph is done. Granted it wasn't a great draft but still had some good talent in there. Like can you imagine if they traded down for like a #8-10 pick plus another future top pick or a budding star player and took Haliburton instead.
Personally I think they got greedy and tried the almost impossible to pull off rebuild while contending and it's mostly not worked. Probably should have traded those picks or guys earlier for vet help with the Curry.

But **** they still won another god damn title anyway so I guess they shouldn't be too upset.

Them missing on some lotto picks is all the proof you need that the draft is a crap shoot. Even the best run organizations get picks wrong all the time.

On the Simmons pod they mentioned the trade value for wiseman right now is a couple second round picks.

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Post#2613 » by phx#7 » Wed Feb 8, 2023 11:34 pm

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What a massive misstep for an otherwise flawlessly run organisation. They had an opportunity few teams in history ever had and they completely whiffed on it. Coming off B2B finals appearances to have a tanktastic season and ending up with a #2 pick in the draft is something all 29 other teams would wish for. Some might know NBA history better than myself but the closest team that comes to mind is the late 90's Spurs which had a really really good team with an elite talent in Admiral but never could quite get to the Finals. D.Rob is out of most of teh 97 season with an injury, Spurs tank and they get the #1 pick which directly led to drafting a top 10 player of all time in TD which led to a title a year later and the rest is history.

I don't think the Warriors are all that hurt with those 4 titles to their name but they could've used that #2 pick to get their next franchise guy once Steph is done. Granted it wasn't a great draft but still had some good talent in there. Like can you imagine if they traded down for like a #8-10 pick plus another future top pick or a budding star player and took Haliburton instead.


Piston's getting the #2 pick in one of the greatest drafts ever.
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Post#2614 » by lilfishi22 » Wed Feb 8, 2023 11:38 pm

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What a massive misstep for an otherwise flawlessly run organisation. They had an opportunity few teams in history ever had and they completely whiffed on it. Coming off B2B finals appearances to have a tanktastic season and ending up with a #2 pick in the draft is something all 29 other teams would wish for. Some might know NBA history better than myself but the closest team that comes to mind is the late 90's Spurs which had a really really good team with an elite talent in Admiral but never could quite get to the Finals. D.Rob is out of most of teh 97 season with an injury, Spurs tank and they get the #1 pick which directly led to drafting a top 10 player of all time in TD which led to a title a year later and the rest is history.

I don't think the Warriors are all that hurt with those 4 titles to their name but they could've used that #2 pick to get their next franchise guy once Steph is done. Granted it wasn't a great draft but still had some good talent in there. Like can you imagine if they traded down for like a #8-10 pick plus another future top pick or a budding star player and took Haliburton instead.


Piston's getting the #2 pick in one of the greatest drafts ever.

Far out, you're right. And they didn't even have to tank to get that #2 pick.
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Post#2615 » by Qwigglez » Wed Feb 8, 2023 11:42 pm

D'Lo played well against the Clippers in the play-in tournament.




Played well in his first playoff game debut against the Sixers.



Was a pretty easy gameplan for the Sixers at the time since the Nets had nobody else on their team besides a 22 year old DLo. As for the Grizzlies series last playoffs, I didn't watch any of the games, but DLo's stats did look bad. However Ja Morant also shot 39% from the field, and averaged 21.5 points against the Wolves. Against the Warriors, Morant put up 34 points, 47 points, and then 34 points.
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Post#2616 » by WeekapaugGroove » Wed Feb 8, 2023 11:45 pm

Qwigglez wrote:D'Lo played well against the Clippers in the play-in tournament.




Played well in his first playoff game debut against the Sixers.



Was a pretty easy gameplan for the Sixers at the time since the Nets had nobody else on their team besides a 22 year old DLo. As for the Grizzlies series last playoffs, I didn't watch any of the games, but DLo's stats did look bad. However Ja Morant also shot 39% from the field, and averaged 21.5 points against the Wolves. Against the Warriors, Morant put up 34 points, 47 points, and then 34 points.
I watched a lot of that series and he was probably worse eye test wise than those stats. He's just not a smart team player, never has been.

You know who was worse last playoffs? Mike Conley, like so bad I assume he was hurt or something.

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Post#2618 » by Blonde » Wed Feb 8, 2023 11:53 pm

Nobody asking for DLo is expecting a star. His limitations are pretty obvious as are his strengths. Suns don’t need a superstar for what they’d be asking of him.
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Post#2619 » by TeamTragic » Wed Feb 8, 2023 11:53 pm

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I agree but did you watch the playoffs last season?


Yes i did, Do you see DLOs shooting for the playoff last year? You know where he shot .333.

How about when he was with the Nets? and shot .359%. Or the fact that he doesnt play defense?


We just missed out on Kyrie granted he is not a stable dude. Now you are saying we should pass on DAR.

Pray tell who is our backup point guard in the playoffs. Payne currently injured and CP3 might not be a reliable starter.

Beggars cannot be choosers unless you enjoyed watching the playoffs last season.
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Post#2620 » by WeekapaugGroove » Wed Feb 8, 2023 11:58 pm

Blonde wrote:Nobody asking for DLo is expecting a star. His limitations are pretty obvious as are his strengths. Suns don’t need a superstar for what they’d be asking of him.
See i think the problem with DLo is he thinks he's a star. If he's willing to come here and be locked in and play a supporting role then cool. Maybe Devin can talk some sense in his buddy.

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