2022-23 Season Discussion and Speculation 4 - Trade season continues - No player trade restrictions

[bwgood77]

Don't tell BW this. It'll break his heart to hear that Peotl is unavailable if that trade happens.

Maybe Toronto can reroute him to us for Ayton?

I don't want Poeltl and have been saying I have heard Toronto wants him for awhile now. This isn't news. Once again, I brought up Poeltl + whoever for Ayton as something I could see JJ doing...and SA being one of the few teams that would need a C and has tons of cap space...mostly young guys...I brought up deals like that, Bojan and one of their Cs because I could see Detroit and one other team I now can't even remember.

I'm the one of us that wants to keep Ayton.

Jokes bro, jokes.

I know you're a fellow Ayton fan, that's why I was always puzzled to see you constantly place him in such awful trades. I mean, if we're moving him for Peotl/Plumlee either his value is trash or we have a moron for a GM...and I never see you critizing JJ.

I know..it's just most teams have Cs on decent deals except Charlotte and Detroit. Poeltl and Plumlee are decent. And for SA Poeltl was expiring so I figured there are few suitors for him too. I knew Toronto was interested. It makes a lot more sense for them to trade GTJr for him than to trade OG or Siakam for Ayton.

[lilfishi22]

I get why Utah did it, don't get why Minny caved for only 2nds with Conley

D LO was a cancer that they wanted out.

I'm amazed they couldn't do better than Conley and two 2nds

[collidingNeurons]

Lakers look better than their championship team now IMO.

the issue with the Lakers is still the same and this will marginally help in the front court, but their defense is terrible and Dlo wont help that, plus they have like 6 guards now all wanting playing time, unless they go small a lot of their personal is redundant

[Jesus_H_Macy]

the Laker pick is only top 4 protected and the other huge thing the jazz did was get off Conley's contract which we wouldn't probably do unless we were willing to move Cp3. I don't want the Suns giving up an lightly protected pick and taking on 35 year old back up point guard for two backups and i loved the idea of Vanderbilt, that not at that price

the REAL loser here is Minny. They basically helped facilitate the trade, got a downgrade from DLo to Conley while taking on an extra year of salary and all they got was a lousy pair of 2nds. The worst part is that they JUST got fleeced by Ainge like 6mths ago and they went back for more lol

How are they so incompetent with Connelly running things? Did he secretly have nothing to do with Denver's excellent GMing? It's weird

[BobbieL]

the Laker pick is only top 4 protected and the other huge thing the jazz did was get off Conley's contract which we wouldn't probably do unless we were willing to move Cp3. I don't want the Suns giving up an lightly protected pick and taking on 35 year old back up point guard for two backups and i loved the idea of Vanderbilt, that not at that price

the REAL loser here is Minny. They basically helped facilitate the trade, got a downgrade from DLo to Conley while taking on an extra year of salary and all they got was a lousy pair of 2nds. The worst part is that they JUST got fleeced by Ainge like 6mths ago and they went back for more lol

How are they so incompetent with Connelly running things? Did he secretly have nothing to do with Denver's excellent GMing? It's weird

What the hell is Jones doing

[Slim Charless]

the Laker pick is only top 4 protected and the other huge thing the jazz did was get off Conley's contract which we wouldn't probably do unless we were willing to move Cp3. I don't want the Suns giving up an lightly protected pick and taking on 35 year old back up point guard for two backups and i loved the idea of Vanderbilt, that not at that price

the REAL loser here is Minny. They basically helped facilitate the trade, got a downgrade from DLo to Conley while taking on an extra year of salary and all they got was a lousy pair of 2nds. The worst part is that they JUST got fleeced by Ainge like 6mths ago and they went back for more lol

I don't think its a downgrade at all for them. They needed an adult in the room. DLo is a child-still. I think they're better just by having a calming presence like Conley there. Wouldn't be surprised to see them make a run.

If I'm wrong, well then they're run by twits and JJ (or our new GM) should be trying to buy low on KAT during the summer.

[Blonde]

You can’t make this up. I better not see a single James Jones defender after tomorrow unless he magically puts us in a much better position. I’ll reserve my judgement until the deadline but this is looking really bad for him.

Not specifically defending Jones but just because a deal took place doesn't mean every other GM not involved took an L by default

It’s not a stretch to say your competitor’s Ws are your Ls. Jones is in direct competition with these other western conference executives to win a championship. The Lakers getting better reduces our window at least a little bit.

[Frank Lee]

This just in……ARod changing his name to NimRod

[sunskerr]

You can’t make this up. I better not see a single James Jones defender after tomorrow unless he magically puts us in a much better position. I’ll reserve my judgement until the deadline but this is looking really bad for him.

Not specifically defending Jones but just because a deal took place doesn't mean every other GM not involved took an L by default

It’s not a stretch to say your competitor’s Ws are your Ls. Jones is in direct competition with these other western conference executives to win a championship. The Lakers getting better reduces our window at least a little bit.

This.

These are all rotation level players. Doesnt matter if you think "oh Dlo is overrated" fact is they are all top 8-9 rotation guys, ESPECIALLY on our team which we are like 5 deep. These guys like Craig, Shamet, Saric etc they are all 10-12ers.

[Fo-Real]

I think the lakers have too many cooks in the kitchen.

[matt131]

well that wasnt fun to come home to. that's like the exact same trade we wanted to make and it only cost 1 first which still allows you to use 4 in the offseason if you're still hell bent on durant. Stoopid

[Revived]

What an absolute clown James Jones is. Seriously how the hell did the Suns not beat these garbage offers?

Last time I thought he was this **** stupid was when he passed on Halliburton in the draft.

Vanderbilt on a ridiculous cheap contract for few more years. And he passes on it.

[Ghost of Kleine]

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Now I guess we know why Ainge helped facilitate the deal for lesser assets! I guess providing a team with significant cap space does have value??

[dmastro32]

So clarkson and olynk for shamet, Saric and crowder plus top 8 lottery pick?

[bwoolf2]

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Now I guess we know why Ainge helped facilitate the deal for lesser assets! I guess providing a team with significant cap space does have value??

Any free agent worth those types of contracts isn't going to Utah, they have to get players through trades or the draft.

[bwgood77]

It really makes the least sense for the Wolves. I know some think they are better with Conley but they are in direct competition with the Lakers in the standings. It's strange they'd trade him to a team that would possibly beat them in the play in game or something. DLo will probably hit a game winning shot.

We probably wanted those Utah players but Ainge probably was mad we were being too stingy with our offer that he thought it would be funny to move them for the Lakers for less.

[Revived]

Davis/Bryant
Vanderbilt/Rui
LeBron/Walker/Brown
Beasley/Beverley/Reaves
Russell/Schroeder

Russell is the only bad defender in their starting lineup now. They can defend like hell.

[KLEON]

Why the hell are ppl here worried? Lakers aint winning crap with that team. Ppl are worried about the Lakers getting a stool pigeon and some other players. The Lakers season depends on A.D and you know he can't stay fit and he doesn't look like himself. For those worried about the Clips getting Westbrick, do you really think he cares about winning a chip when he only cares about himself and is a known cancer where ever he goes? I'll take my Suns winning against those teams in the playoffs. Guys stop worrying

[WeekapaugGroove]

well that wasnt fun to come home to. that's like the exact same trade we wanted to make and it only cost 1 first which still allows you to use 4 in the offseason if you're still hell bent on durant. Stoopid

A 2027 1st from LA would beat any 1st the suns can offer. Everyone assumes they will suck when LeBron leaves. So to beat that you're trading 2 1sts and since next years is looking like it's in the 20s that has limited value.



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[bwgood77]

So clarkson and olynk for shamet, Saric and crowder plus top 8 lottery pick?

I was just trying to decide if I'd rather have a decent guard or Olynyk. If all our guards are healthy I'd probably prefer Olynyk, but given injury status, maybe a guard.

Long term we obviously need a guard.

Maybe we are still working on a deal for FVV or Rozier. It would be nice to get one of those guys and Olynyk but I don't think we have enough expiring contracts to match them.