2022-23 Season Discussion and Speculation 5 - The KD era begins

[Blonde]

All these sours takes haha. Please just be happy that we have added KD to Booker & Ayton. We just catapulted ourselves to championship favorites and some people are salty we can’t draft 4 more busts.

[Ghost of Kleine]

Also RIP GOK draft analysis.. we going deep with 2nd rd picks now baby!

I already have my friend! Would you really expect anything less?....lol

[Qwigglez]

Wait a minute, who is playing tomorrow then? Booker is already out. Who is being trotted out there. CP3, Lee, Craig, Dario, Ayton? Lee, Okogie, Ish, Smack?

[Blonde]

I will say this about KD though. This season... he is averaging 30 points a game, 7 rebounds, 5 assists, 1.5 blocks. Even at 34 he is still a stud.

And his game will likely age gracefully.

[bwgood77]

Well I called it Sunday, saying Durant won't want to stay with the Nets with Dinwiddie and DFS.
He kept it lowkey this time, not publicly asking to be traded. I feel indifferent.

I guess I was wrong, I did say I don't think they trade KD barring a massive offer though, and this one feels massive. I haven't checked the GB yet but I am guessing we will get crushed in people thinking it's a good move. Some will. I imagine most won't.

But I suppose people will say it's just role players and picks and Paul's clock is ticking as is our window.

We could win. We are kind of like an older version of the Lakers (before their moves today).

[sunskerr]

I will say this about KD though. This season... he is averaging 30 points a game, 7 rebounds, 5 assists, 1.5 blocks. Even at 34 he is still a stud.

Yes he is a top 5 player and will be a top 5 player next year and probably the year after that too.

I like getting KD what I dont like is having a depth of 4 players. You can't take this roster to the playoffs. You just can't. There has to be more moves.

[Revived]

I will say this about KD though. This season... he is averaging 30 points a game, 7 rebounds, 5 assists, 1.5 blocks. Even at 34 he is still a stud.

And his game will likely age gracefully.

Will his body age gracefully though?

He’s missed what, 40% of games available in the last 3 years?

[Ghost of Kleine]

All these sours takes haha. Please just be happy that we have added KD to Booker & Ayton. We just catapulted ourselves to championship favorites and some people are salty we can’t draft 4 more busts.

I'm happy and excited! Especially for Book! But also cautiously concerned about our defense and depth! We still have more moves needed to shore up depth and defensive issues.

[lonea]

I didn’t necessarily want Kyrie cause he’s unpredictable but I would rather have traded the extra 2 first rd picks in addition to Crowder/CP3 m/1st rd to acquire him and kept Bridges/Cam than give all this up for KD.

Anyone else feel that way?

The trade I mentioned above was what was rumored for Kyrie and Woj/Shams reported Nets wanted 2 more first rd picks.

NO?

KD is a hall of famer. You can't compare KD to Kyrie.

This is the same **** I told people who wanted to keep Rubio, CP is a hall of famer. When given the opportunity to acquire a hall of famer (if they're still serviceable), you do it.

[sunsbg]

For now KD gives a better chance to win a chip than Mikal I guess .. as long as he's healthy. If it doesn't work we probably get some picks back in a trade and Bridges in free agency.

[Qwigglez]

The Nets franchise is a mess though. I don't think any players want to play there.

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[bwgood77]

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Wait. This trade is lowkey **** terrible.

I am **** scared we have 4 rotation level players and a bunch of garbage. Them expirings better somehow be useful and (the worlds biggest if) Warren has to get healthy.

You're right Warren better be healthy, If he even gets back to near the scoring threat he was around the bubble, and shooting the 3 like he did it would be awesome.

I don't expect that.

But the big fear regarding health for me is Book and KD HAVE to stay healthy. We can't win if one is out. And I imagine we hang onto CP3 now his entire contract.

I am glad Sarver is gone but Ishbia got a little overexuberant I think.

[Blonde]

I will say this about KD though. This season... he is averaging 30 points a game, 7 rebounds, 5 assists, 1.5 blocks. Even at 34 he is still a stud.

And his game will likely age gracefully.

Will his body age gracefully though?

He’s missed what, 40% of games available in the last 3 years?

We’ll have to see. He recovered from an achilles better than anyone we’ve ever seen so I’m not putting it off the table.

[Qwigglez]

I gotta say too, I love that we are keeping DA. He is going to feast with the amount of firepower around him. I mean... my expectation is the Suns are keeping DA.

[Bogyo]

All kinds of torn here in reality.

I feel like our "gm" got taken to the cleaners again with this package. At least get Royce back instead of TJ... and don't give up a 2029 unprotected when 2 of your 4 (four!!!) nba rotation level guys are 35 and 38 - with serious injury history behind them. Or have Shamet in the package and trade Crowder for bench pieces. This is just way too steep. I think he was happy he can make an all in move to save his job, and Ishbia was happy he can make a bang coming in. They paid a way to steep price, and there will be consequences down the line - in the not so distant future.

Other hand: we have an owner who is willing to spend, and take risks, we have a better punchers chance at the chip this year and next than we had prior the deadline I think IF other moves are made to round out the roster. We do not have any defense whatsoever (well, other than Ayton if/when he is locked in, but he will be on an island all day and all night every night with this peremiter crew). We do not have a bench whatsoever. Some of that can be taken care of in the buyout market I guess, but nothing too exciting going on there as I see. Maybe Russ? He would be an adequate bench wrecking ball if he agrees... Not sure anything else is out there that moves the needle...

All in all I guess I would have gone in the opposite direction. Trade CP and Crowder and a pick (or even 2) for the DLo, Beasly, Vanderbilt package.
I think that
DLo, Payne, Beasly
Book,Beasly, Shamet
Bridges (damn I loved the guy), Cam,Craig
Cam,Vanderbilt,Craig
DA, Vanderbilt, Biz/Jock
is a lot better especially next year than
CP,Payne
Book,Shamet
Craig, TJ
Durant,TJ
DA, Biz/Jock

So its championship this year or next, or bust.
And with our age and health I'd bet about 80% on the bust.

[Mulhollanddrive]

Depth hasn't really changed numbers wise?

Durant for Bridges
Warren for Johnson

[Crives]

So we went way into tax with this right? That’s exciting.

Wonder what we do with Dario contract.

[spanishninja]

All kinds of torn here in reality.

I feel like our "gm" got taken to the cleaners again with this package. At least get Royce back instead of TJ... and don't give up a 2029 unprotected when 2 of your 4 (four!!!) nba rotation level guys are 35 and 38 - with serious injury history behind them. Or have Shamet in the package and trade Crowder for bench pieces. This is just way too steep. I think he was happy he can make an all in move to save his job, and Ishbia was happy he can make a bang coming in. They paid a way to steep price, and there will be consequences down the line - in the not so distant future.

Other hand: we have an owner who is willing to spend, and take risks, we have a better punchers chance at the chip this year and next than we had prior the deadline I think IF other moves are made to round out the roster. We do not have any defense whatsoever (well, other than Ayton if/when he is locked in, but he will be on an island all day and all night every night with this peremiter crew). We do not have a bench whatsoever. Some of that can be taken care of in the buyout market I guess, but nothing too exciting going on there as I see. Maybe Russ? He would be an adequate bench wrecking ball if he agrees... Not sure anything else is out there that moves the needle...

All in all I guess I would have gone in the opposite direction. Trade CP and Crowder and a pick (or even 2) for the DLo, Beasly, Vanderbilt package.
I think that
DLo, Payne, Beasly
Book,Beasly, Shamet
Bridges (damn I loved the guy), Cam,Craig
Cam,Vanderbilt,Craig
DA, Vanderbilt, Biz/Jock
is a lot better especially next year than
CP,Payne
Book,Shamet
Craig, TJ
Durant,TJ
DA, Biz/Jock

So its championship this year or next, or bust.
And with our age and health I'd bet about 80% on the bust.

we were gonna have to do at least a minor rebuild anyway after CP3. now it just means we go for a ring soon and hope that leads to more stars coming here after Paul and KD are through

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[Ghost of Kleine]

Also RIP GOK draft analysis.. we going deep with 2nd rd picks now baby!

We are going to trade them too, notice how the team has ZERO players drafted by JJ.

We really won't be able to afford to anymore with what our payroll will be, will be facing the CBA's new much more severe penalties very soon! We'll absolutely have to start hitting on young COST CONTROLLED talent to balance our cap and depth.

[sunskerr]

I gotta say too, I love that we are keeping DA. He is going to feast with the amount of firepower around him. I mean... my expectation is the Suns are keeping DA.

TBH if I could at this point I'd split him into a serviceable center and 3&D wing if the value was equal.