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2022-23 Season Discussion and Speculation 5 - The KD era begins

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What do you think our chances are of winning the West and the Championship if we win the West?

20-30% we win west, 70-80% someone else in field does
6
10%
30-40% we win west, 60-70% someone else in field does
12
19%
40-50% we win west, 50-60% someone else in field does
7
11%
Greater than 50% we win west, less than 50% someone else in field does
5
8%
IF we win west, 50/50 chance we win vs east team
17
27%
IF we win west, greater than 50% chance we win vs east team
8
13%
IF we win west, less than 50% chance we win vs east team
7
11%
 
Total votes: 62

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Post#261 » by Qwigglez » Thu Feb 9, 2023 7:41 am

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Qwigglez wrote:I gotta say too, I love that we are keeping DA. He is going to feast with the amount of firepower around him. I mean... my expectation is the Suns are keeping DA.


I can actually more understand trading him for more depth now, but it would have to be a very good trade. Not like Rozier and Plumlee.

We'd have to get a solid guard, a solid C and a solid wing and I don't think we could get that much for him.



I really hope not. I could see that happening, however I am thinking James Jones might just get veteran minimum players to fill out the bench.
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Post#262 » by NE1Care » Thu Feb 9, 2023 7:41 am

Who is your current favorite Suns Player?

Not the best but your favorite.

Mikal was the fan favorite and mine.
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Post#263 » by lilfishi22 » Thu Feb 9, 2023 7:41 am

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Mulhollanddrive wrote:I give credit to Jones for keeping 2 of our picks, Brooklyn had every right to just say all of them or not happening.

Which picks did we keep?

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24', 26', and maybe 28' (a pick swap option). So again, we'll really need to hit on our 2nds this summer. And also in the draft in 24 to replenish young cost controlled talent supplemental to our core. I've already scouted all the elite defenders in the 2nd round range, including some very comparable to Nikal Bridges and Herb Jones already. I've also already scouted the most potent scorer/shot creators and point of attack defenders in the 2nd round within our range. So IF it comes down to that critical necessity, I'll have info ready! :wink:

You know I don't care about 2nds but the point stands. This is it. This us going all-in. Mortgaging our future for a title. We have to win it all this year or the next
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Post#264 » by matt131 » Thu Feb 9, 2023 7:42 am

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lilfishi22 wrote:Which picks did we keep?

Read on Twitter


24', 26', and maybe 28' (a pick swap option). So again, we'll really need to hit on our 2nds this summer. And also in the draft in 24 to replenish young cost controlled talent supplemental to our core. I've already scouted all the elite defenders in the 2nd round range, including some very comparable to Nikal Bridges and Herb Jones already. I've also already scouted the most potent scorer/shot creators and point of attack defenders in the 2nd round within our range. So IF it comes down to that critical necessity, I'll have info ready! :wink:

You know I don't care about 2nds but the point stands. This is it. This us going all-in. Mortgaging our future for a title. We have to win it all this year or the next


lol Ishbia literally said TODAY that he wasn't going to do that
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Post#265 » by Qwigglez » Thu Feb 9, 2023 7:42 am

matt131 wrote:what's the rule with trading consecutive picks? Is it that you can't trade consecutive picks in the SAME deal, or just not at all?

Because if we legally can use '24 and '26, we unfortunately need to use them to upgrade depth for sure


You can't trade them. Have to keep them.
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Post#266 » by lilfishi22 » Thu Feb 9, 2023 7:43 am

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Ghost of Kleine wrote:
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24', 26', and maybe 28' (a pick swap option). So again, we'll really need to hit on our 2nds this summer. And also in the draft in 24 to replenish young cost controlled talent supplemental to our core. I've already scouted all the elite defenders in the 2nd round range, including some very comparable to Nikal Bridges and Herb Jones already. I've also already scouted the most potent scorer/shot creators and point of attack defenders in the 2nd round within our range. So IF it comes down to that critical necessity, I'll have info ready! :wink:

You know I don't care about 2nds but the point stands. This is it. This us going all-in. Mortgaging our future for a title. We have to win it all this year or the next


lol Ishbia literally said TODAY that he wasn't going to do that

After Sarver I am trying really hard to give ishbia all the benefit of the doubt. That's all I'll say for now
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Post#267 » by Hitachi77 » Thu Feb 9, 2023 7:43 am

From a pure basketball perspective, ignoring how likeable and cool Bridges and Cam are, you guys are crazy not to like this. It's one of the greatest players ever, and easily the best player to ever put on a Suns uniform. And he has only missed significant time in the playoffs once, in 2019.

All these guys you think suck, Ayton, the entire bench etc, will benefit greatly from playing off a guy like Durant. Booker will also benefit, and Paul will have no pressure to be a bulk scorer. As a whole our mental mindset can be reset as we have a guy who has won championships and torches every single defense he plays against.
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Post#268 » by matt131 » Thu Feb 9, 2023 7:43 am

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matt131 wrote:what's the rule with trading consecutive picks? Is it that you can't trade consecutive picks in the SAME deal, or just not at all?

Because if we legally can use '24 and '26, we unfortunately need to use them to upgrade depth for sure


You can't trade them. Have to keep them.


oh so we're screwed a bit on depth lol
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Post#269 » by TeamTragic » Thu Feb 9, 2023 7:43 am

Ishbia and Jones **** made it happen.

Flowers. Chocolate. Cookies. Give them props!

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Post#270 » by Ghost of Kleine » Thu Feb 9, 2023 7:43 am

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Post#271 » by BurningHeart » Thu Feb 9, 2023 7:44 am

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Blonde wrote:All these sours takes haha. Please just be happy that we have added KD to Booker & Ayton. We just catapulted ourselves to championship favorites and some people are salty we can’t draft 4 more busts.


It's not Kevin Durant the on-court performance we're upset about.

It's Kevin Durant the insufferable aging twatbag who's the symbol and example of everything wrong with this league right now that's the problem.

If he was 25 Oklahoma City Kevin Durant hey **** yeah. But the league has done immeasurable corrupting of this guy.

Bad enough we have to root for Paul who's spent his career flopping like an inflatable car lot thing and bitching and moaning constantly. Bad enough we have to root for Ayton who is dramatic and a problem himself and will never ever reach the heights he could. Bad enough we have to root for the guy who's modeled his life after Kobe **** Bryant.

I wouldn't even get any real joy winning, tbh. For fans, you have to like what you're winning with because you're watching this team night in, night out as entertainment and as an extension of yourself. What do I care about winning with this snake at the helm?

This is not a very likable team. Coming from a franchise that was historically incredibly lovable, that sucks.



So if the Suns win their first championship ever with this team, you wont be celebrating?
Unfortunately, there are no prizes for being a "likeable" team.


I wouldn't be nearly as happy as I'd be otherwise. I'm already not that into it anymore because of **** like the league has become. If the team I root for becomes the same way with the same cast of characters too, yeah, I don't think I'd be too thrilled about it.

I don't live and die by the team and sport anymore. And it has nothing to do with anything involving me, really.

But yeah, if we win, cool I guess. Certainly won't feel like 1993 or 2005-2008, 2010, 2014, etc.
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Post#272 » by lonea » Thu Feb 9, 2023 7:44 am

matt131 wrote:
Qwigglez wrote:
matt131 wrote:what's the rule with trading consecutive picks? Is it that you can't trade consecutive picks in the SAME deal, or just not at all?

Because if we legally can use '24 and '26, we unfortunately need to use them to upgrade depth for sure


You can't trade them. Have to keep them.


oh so we're screwed a bit on depth lol


It was no different before the trade…
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Post#273 » by bwgood77 » Thu Feb 9, 2023 7:45 am

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Qwigglez wrote:I gotta say too, I love that we are keeping DA. He is going to feast with the amount of firepower around him. I mean... my expectation is the Suns are keeping DA.


TBH if I could at this point I'd split him into a serviceable center and 3&D wing if the value was equal.


I think we are keeping DA for sure now. CP3, DA pick and rolls, with Book or KD on the weakside corner.... nobody one stopping that. If DA gets his head right, he'll be unstoppable


That would be a huge plus if Ayton really grows while playing in a stacked lineup like this with enormous threats. That over the next couple years he punishes...would be awesome for the future.

If he's still here.
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Post#276 » by BurningHeart » Thu Feb 9, 2023 7:46 am

NE1Care wrote:Who is your current favorite Suns Player?

Not the best but your favorite.

Mikal was the fan favorite and mine.


Cam Payne, I guess. He showed me a lot when he talked **** about the Lakers whenever that was.
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Post#277 » by Crives » Thu Feb 9, 2023 7:46 am

We should call Charlotte, see if we can get some of their cheap wings
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Post#278 » by TeamTragic » Thu Feb 9, 2023 7:47 am

Crives wrote:We should call Charlotte, see if we can get some of their cheap wings


Just call Buffalo Wild Wings
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Post#279 » by matt131 » Thu Feb 9, 2023 7:47 am

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Post#280 » by lonea » Thu Feb 9, 2023 7:47 am

Ayton will prob drop 20-15 nightly now.

He can’t handle the pressure. Now that you have 2 future hofer and Booker. He won’t **** his pants when come game time.

Kd will probably lob city Ayton at least 3 times a gm. Who can stop 2 mobile 7 footers

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