WOJ BOMB: KD, TJ to Suns for Cam Johnson, Bridges, Crowder, 4 unprotected 1sts

[Lachiebkn]

Sad day to lose out championship hopes.

our identity now is defence. We won’t have any drama and have recruited a lot of players with good locker room reps.

I wouldn’t mind if they sat Ben and got his knee and back sorted. He hasn’t looked like himself, and now we have all the time in the world to rehabilitate him as a player or as a commodity.

[NyCeEvO]

So why take the Dinwiddle deal if they were going to trade KD? Anyway, I am extremely disappointed. I hope the Nets never try this again. Sacrificed everything for these ego maniacs and they didn't give back ****.

You might not have to worry about that. The reputational damage of upper management to this franchise will probably keep any star away from wanting to sign here for a long time, which is ironic considering that we were one of the most attractive places for stars to come to just 3 years ago.

We better draft a superstar like Boston did with Tatum. Ironically, Tatum and Brown were our picks from King’s trade with Boston lol. I think this franchise has been cursed with the modus operandi of ensuring that we help all teams other than the Nets to become elite lol smh.

[MrDollarBills]

Good. I was asking for this the whole time.

No way did we have any chance of contending anymore and it was time to move in.

I largely agree. Outside of the KD/Kyrie/Harden Big 3, I always thought we lacked the key complementary role players needed to match Boston and the other truly elite teams. And unless we were going to miraculously trade Ben for a 3rd star who is good right now, we weren’t going to win this year either.

I wish we took the Lakers package though if we were planning on rebuilding. Not sure what the point of adding Dinwiddie and DFS was if were trading KD.

Agreed. I can only think that Marks had no intention of moving KD, unless they received an offer that blew them away and I guess Phoenix’s offer reached that “blown away” level of a trade package.

Anyway, I hope Marks isn’t done. We need to get rid of Ben too and start completely fresh.

With that said (and I’m sure I’ll elaborate on this in subsequent posts),we shouldn’t underestimate the reputational damage Tsai and Marks have created for this franchise.

We’ve gone from being one of the most attractive sporting projects in the league for star players to join to now having 2 former MVPs in Harden & Durant and one borderline superstar level player in Kyrie who will probably strongly discourage players from signing with us for as long as Tsai and Marks are with the franchise. What a terrible fall from grace.

Until further notice, we’ve probably swapped places with the Knicks in terms of front office toxicity and being the preferred landing spot for star players seeking to come to NYC. We need to pray that we draft a superstar in the making or help turn a good player into one because I can’t foresee top players signing with us for a while.

Yep. Tsai and Marks look awful as well.

It's whatever. It was smart to sell high on KD.

[sashaturiaf]

Sad day to lose out championship hopes.

our identity now is defence. We won’t have any drama and have recruited a lot of players with good locker room reps.

I wouldn’t mind if they sat Ben and got his knee and back sorted. He hasn’t looked like himself, and now we have all the time in the world to rehabilitate him as a player or as a commodity.

I would shut Ben down for the season and give his minutes to the 479 other wings we have. They can at least build their trade values which can net us some picks or other stuff in the offseason. Nobody is trading for Ben as is.

[MrDollarBills]

Bamba+Cole anthony+RJ hampton+ Chi 2023 + Den 2025+ many 2RP for Bridges?

No. Go to bed.

[sashaturiaf]

So why take the Dinwiddle deal if they were going to trade KD? Anyway, I am extremely disappointed. I hope the Nets never try this again. Sacrificed everything for these ego maniacs and they didn't give back ****.

You might not have to worry about that. The reputational damage of upper management to this franchise will probably keep any star away from wanting to sign here for a long time, which is ironic considering that we were one of the most attractive places for stars to come to just 3 years ago.

We better draft a superstar like Boston did with Tatum. Ironically, Tatum and Brown were our picks from King’s trade with Boston lol. I think this franchise has been cursed with the mo of ensuring that we help all teams other than the Nets to become elite lol smh.

The curse of the Nets.

We thought Tsai was the savior, but once he got unmasked he was just a less likeable Prok...

[Decipher]

You guys are seriously underrating Bridges & Johnson

I am also a glass half full kind of guy so here goes

We have gone from an old, top heavy team with no picks to a ridiculously deep roster

Sure it's unbalanced but there's still moves to be made

We have 3 DPOY candidates

We have increased our team's scoring average

We have a kid, who despite all of his faults in other parts of his game, is breaking scoring records

We have a boatload of picks with the later ones being potentially really valuable

We have dumped 3 mercenaries who were refusing to play (make no mistake about it, KD wanted out & that's why he's gone)

[MrDollarBills]

Yeah his completely lack of self awareness is astounding.

If he just takes the vaccine I think we run away with the Championship in 2022. Then this season if he just shut up and played out his contract we had a very good chance of winning as well.

Guy is just selfish. He think the whole world revolves around him. We should allow him to take in season breaks. We should just support him not being vaccinated. We should just let him post anti-semetic thing. We should then give him 200 mill guaranteed on top of that.

Why would you inject yourself poison if you don't have to? Is he a guinea pig?

Oh here we go with the Alex Jones bull.

Don't bother, they're just some tinfoil hat wearer. Let's talk hoops.

[sashaturiaf]

You guys are seriously underrating Bridges & Johnson

I am also a glass half full kind of guy so here goes

We have gone from an old, top heavy team with no picks to a ridiculously deep roster

Sure it's unbalanced but there's still moves to be made

We have 3 DPOY candidates

We have increased our team's scoring average

We have a kid, who despite all of his faults in other parts of his game, is breaking scoring records

We have a boatload of picks with the later ones being potentially really valuable

We have dumped 3 mercenaries who were refusing to play (make no mistake about it, KD wanted out & that's why he's gone)

Good to have your much needed optimism in dark times

I think we're just a wing farm at the moment, it is the most valuable archetype in the NBA right now so I can't say it's the wrong model in transitional times. Nurture your wings and then convert them into something good once they mature, ala Raptors with OG. Meanwhile I think we should stay goodish enough not to be giving Rockets top 5 picks.

[NyCeEvO]

Four unprotected firsts.


Maybe go get Siakam now?

Read on Twitter

I was wondering about this. Do the Nets still try to add a guy or do they stay young and rebuild? Siakam would fit in well, but should we be wasting assets? I don't think we're done. This team is very deep, even if it lacks star power. The lunch pail Nets are back.

honestly i dont see the need to trade for siakam right now. why bother? this team isn't winning a championship this year. why not wait until a younger star asks out?

this roster is now over flowing with wings. for those that don't know cam johnson is having quite the breakout this year and bridges took his game to another level also. having dfs and oneal with claxton anchoring is an embarrassment of defense.

i wanted to see kd get to play with this group and give it one last run but this is the smart move. they just completely restocked the franchise and rolled the clocks back about a decade cashing in a 34 year old they got for nothing from free agency. and he gave us a ton of great ball in between. im rooting for kd and phoenix. right up until those 2025/27/29 picks.

You’re convincing me that this could very well have been the best outcome (as long as you think we had no legit shot of winning this season).

Since we have no control over our own picks for the next 5 years, it doesn’t make sense to tank. Trading for Westbrook and picks isn’t going to help us stay afloat in the near-to-medium term, especially considering that Westbrook is a free agent and the Lakers 2027 picks can’t help us play better basketball right now.

Dinwiddie and DFS aren’t expirings, which is great since they can 1) help us be relevant this year and the next and 2) be useful assets in the event we need to trade either and or both of them for more assets in the next 12 months.

In fact, if Westbrook gets bought out, we could sign him on the cheap for the rest of the season. And depending on how well he’d lead the team, I think he’s still a good enough floor raiser to help keep us competitive over the next 2-3 seasons, while we hopefully find draft and develop a good successor.

[NyCeEvO]

Lol disaster. No idea how you guys are chipper.

Nets are cooked. Franchise may never recover. Love you you guys are acting like trading Kevin freaking Durant for nothing is no big deal.

We have good pieces to develop with some unprotected picks and trade assets. Nobody is jumping for joy but we can build a team oriented style again like we did without them.

We did well considering the options.

At least yall won't have annoying ass bandwagon / casual "fans" no more n you'll see where the fan base really is at.

If the condition for winning a title means that you have to endure bandwagoners, you take that condition 10 times out of 10. People will always bandwagon elite teams, so I wouldn’t get too fussed over it. You just gotta enjoy the being great with stars and hopefully win a title with them. Bandwagons come and go, but titles will always remain with the team.

[MrDollarBills]

You guys are seriously underrating Bridges & Johnson

I am also a glass half full kind of guy so here goes

We have gone from an old, top heavy team with no picks to a ridiculously deep roster

Sure it's unbalanced but there's still moves to be made

We have 3 DPOY candidates

We have increased our team's scoring average

We have a kid, who despite all of his faults in other parts of his game, is breaking scoring records

We have a boatload of picks with the later ones being potentially really valuable

We have dumped 3 mercenaries who were refusing to play (make no mistake about it, KD wanted out & that's why he's gone)

Good to have your much needed optimism in dark times

I think we're just a wing farm at the moment, it is the most valuable archetype in the NBA right now so I can't say it's the wrong model in transitional times. Nurture your wings and then convert them into something good once they mature, ala Raptors with OG. Meanwhile I think we should stay goodish enough not to be giving Rockets top 5 picks.

I think we've got some hope for the future. Cam, Claxton, Bridges, and Johnson can now all continue to grow in a pressure free environment. I think the picks that we got will yield good returns as KD and CP3 are on borrowed time and i highly doubt we're giving Houston any top 5 picks.

[MrDollarBills]

Ben needs to be shut down or traded.

I'm thinking Dinwiddie/Cam/Bridges/DFS/Claxton is now our starting 5? Or do we start Johnson. His numbers are really good but i haven't watched many Suns games this year.

Looking forward to the future.

[NyCeEvO]

I hope Marks is gone in the summer. He really hates legit Centers. Not even taking Ayton in this deal is so nasty, not even counting only 4 FRPs (no swaps)

If the team was gonna rebuild, then what was the point of that Kyrie trade??

Ughh I'm so sick.

IMO, Ayton is a faux star. Good enough to demand the max, but not good enough to be the lead guy in a championship team. I’m perfectly fine with not getting him, especially if getting him meant we couldn’t get Cam or Bridges.

[NyCeEvO]

Lol disaster. No idea how you guys are chipper.

Nets are cooked. Franchise may never recover. Love you you guys are acting like trading Kevin freaking Durant for nothing is no big deal.

Because we accepted this team wasn't winning **** a while ago.

We had Kevin Durant last season with Kyrie and we still got swept.

This **** wasn't working.

And to be honest, Durant is not capable of being the lead franchise guy. He learned it the hard way.

He gets injured every year. Can't be a leader. And was literally sonned by Jayson Tatum in the playoffs.

I think Suns are a good situation for him. But more of the same wasn't worth it to me anymore.

Yes, this is the reality of the situation. KD is a great player, but he’s getting older, still picking up significant fluke injuries, and will only have an increasingly tougher time hanging with the younger stars in the league.

Unless you can surround him with enough quality players to do all of the dirty work for him (a la 2011 Mavs with Dirk), there’s a high probability that we were going to flameout in the playoffs yet again.

Considering how KD handled himself and led the team during the season (after his trade request), I’ll definitely root for him to do well in the West.

[Papi_swav]

So what can we get for Seph Curry, Crowder and Joe Harris? I imagine Seph and Crowder is gone now. And Oneale too

[MrDollarBills]

Lol disaster. No idea how you guys are chipper.

Nets are cooked. Franchise may never recover. Love you you guys are acting like trading Kevin freaking Durant for nothing is no big deal.

Because we accepted this team wasn't winning **** a while ago.

We had Kevin Durant last season with Kyrie and we still got swept.

This **** wasn't working.

And to be honest, Durant is not capable of being the lead franchise guy. He learned it the hard way.

He gets injured every year. Can't be a leader. And was literally sonned by Jayson Tatum in the playoffs.

I think Suns are a good situation for him. But more of the same wasn't worth it to me anymore.

Yes, this is the reality of the situation. KD is a great player, but he’s getting older, still picking up significant fluke injuries, and will only have an increasingly tougher time hanging with the younger stars in the league.

Unless you can surround him with enough quality players to do all of the dirty work for him (a la 2011 Mavs with Dirk), there’s a high probability that we were going to flameout in the playoffs yet again.

Considering how KD handled himself and led the team during the season (after his trade request), I’ll definitely root for him to do well in the West.

Not me. He was apart of the problem here too.

I have no good memories from his time here. Zero.

I can't bring myself to root for him or his crackhead friend ever.

[MrDollarBills]

So what can we get for Seph Curry, Crowder and Joe Harris? I imagine Seph and Crowder is gone now. And Oneale too

Draft picks hopefully.

[NyCeEvO]

im still surprised by how much this return has been underrated by net fans since the summer. the only thing missing was ayton but with claxton that part didn't really matter.

bridges and cam johnsons +/- stats are insane this year. if cam hadn't missed time with the knee he'd be at the top of this list. these guys are 2 legit stud 3/d wings.

They’re not established household names like the star players we just sent away.

Plus, I’m sure most of us live on the East coast, so catching Phoenix games that start at 10pm is a tall order especially if you’re not a fan of that team. Few Nets fans probably have a good sense of the quality of Bridges and Cam. I know I don’t.

But if the statistical numbers you’ve shown translate to real on-court value that we can see with our eyes, then yes, it’s a very good return and is probably about as good as you can expect, given KD’s age.

[NyCeEvO]

im still surprised by how much this return has been underrated by net fans since the summer. the only thing missing was ayton but with claxton that part didn't really matter.

bridges and cam johnsons +/- stats are insane this year. if cam hadn't missed time with the knee he'd be at the top of this list. these guys are 2 legit stud 3/d wings.

Mikal is going to be viewed as better then brown by end of season, just watch

Brown is a good player, but I think he’s become a bit overrated.

He benefits a lot from playing with Tatum, since Tatum is the lead offensive player and garners the most attention from opposing defenses. If Brown was the lead option, I think people would quickly see that even though he might be a better individual defender than Tatum, Tatum’s offensive skill set is more adapted to being the main option than Brown’s skill set.