Sixers trade deadline thread - Feb. 9th.

[Sam Hinkie]

This Durant trade really helps in Morey's championship equity equation. It should lock us into the 2/3 bracket with a easy round 1 matchup and also where the Bucks are a paper tiger with the Middleton cloud hanging over them, elevate Miami to the 4/5 where they should beat the Cavs and have a legit chance to eliminate Boston in round 2.

It really helps open the bracket up for us. Are we good enough to take advantage?

The answer, that we all should already know, is no. Cannot keep going on in delusion. This is Morey’s problem. The math says x, but y keeps occurring.

I am obviously an analytics guy but you're 100% right. I love Embiid but running the offense through him in the playoffs in the 4th quarter never ends well. He's too tired, which leads to turnovers, and him playing worse defense. In theory, Harden should be the guy who takes over in the 4th but he's shown time and time again to shrink in big moments. He can still be part of a championship team but we need another guy who we can run the offense through in the 4th. Someone like Jimmy Butler.

Sixers are not going to the finals let alone winning the title with the current group. It's just not going to happen, and we have 1-2 seasons left of Embiid's prime. I don't understand Morey trading for Harden and then sitting on his hands to fill out the roster. I understand we have limited draft assets but I think they need to use Maxey to find a better win now player over the next two seasons. Otherwise, we are just going to be a treadmill 2nd round elimination team.

[LeonJordanJr24]

DeRozan makes since he's got that 1 option juice . Take the load off Embiid and Harden.

[LeonJordanJr24]

Hell no

[Jhawk03]

The Nets traded ALL of their big 3, and the Sixers got the worst end of the deal.

The gods of this league won't let that go unchecked, I would argue Sixers will get a bone or compensation for that collapse, stay tuned.

[Murray_17]

I wonder if the Spurs retain Thad.

I still think he's a great option at the 5 for cheap.

[DCasey91]

This Durant trade really helps in Morey's championship equity equation. It should lock us into the 2/3 bracket with a easy round 1 matchup and also where the Bucks are a paper tiger with the Middleton cloud hanging over them, elevate Miami to the 4/5 where they should beat the Cavs and have a legit chance to eliminate Boston in round 2.

It really helps open the bracket up for us. Are we good enough to take advantage?

If the Bucks are paper tigers we are used tissues from gramps. Why does everyone including us overrate this fodder team lmao.

[spikeslovechild]

Nets have way too many players right now demanding minutes might be a good time to trade for some guys to fill out the bench

Also might be worth it to check in on their plans for Cameron Johnson do they plan to extend him in the offseason?

[Stanford]

Hell of a trade for the Nets.

[Jay555]

Nets have like a millions wings, all of them great.

[Murray_17]

Hell of a trade for the Nets.

This, i like what they did.

They recoup all the picks lost on the Harden move and got depth enough to get whatever player they want in the future or build around Claxton and Cam if they think they're valuable enough.

I don't even think they're done yet, they probably move Curry and/or Mills. (hint: they need to get rid of Ben's contract lol)

[Stanford]

Just goes to show, if you have an elite superstar like Durant, you can erase of lot of bad decisions.

[spikeslovechild]

Hell of a trade for the Nets.

This, i like what they did.

They recoup all the picks lost on the Harden move and got depth enough to get whatever player they want in the future or build around Claxton and Cam if they think they're valuable enough.

I don't even think they're done yet, they probably move Curry and/or Mills. (hint: they need to get rid of Ben's contract lol)

Honestly, they are stuck with each other because they aren't going to get better by trading him and are just going to be giving away major assets they are going to need down the line to make a big trade. If he bounces back or as his contract tolls and becomes closer to expiring the cost and calculus starts to make more sense to the Nets and other teams to do a deal.

Personally, I am surprised they didn't put Joe Harris in either deal. He has no minutes or a spot anymore and most of his contract for this season is paid for and he just has one year left. He is going to limit what they will be able to do in the offseason. Should have forced a team to take him now rather than move him in a separate deal

[Kobblehead]

I think we have to stick it out with Maxey. If you take any lesson from the Celtics, it should be to keep your drafted and developed homegrown players that exceed expectations.

He and Embiid are two of the very few things this franchise has done correctly in the last 10 or so years.

It you take anything from the Celtics you trade an undersized one dimensional player while value is high. Celtics is possibly the worst comparison here - you've just make an argument to ship Maxey ASAP.

And then you just keep churning through mercenary types and reset chemistry every year. You will never win with that approach. You keep Maxey and Embiid and you try to keep figuring it out.

[HardenGoat]

Woke up to this. It’s a good haul of assets for the nets picks included. The loser is Mavs, they had to take the most unreliable star on a rental. Suns at least have Durant under contract and he’s a game changer, they will beat the Mavs. Nets are probably going to unload for more picks. Another huge winner is Houston thanks to Kyrie. We need an athletic wing and backup center. Morey has some options but my gut tells me this team won’t be fully rounded out until next season when a big splash is available.

[Stanford]

Morey is a fraud

You're dumb

[Kobblehead]

I think Morey just improved his positioning in Thybulle trade negotiations. So many of these teams that now fancy themselves a contender are going to want him now.

Might be able to get a 1st rounder for him.

[DCasey91]

The Sixers have never lost because of their coach. They’ve lost either because their roster wasn’t good enough or because their best players were injured and/or came up small. Coaches don’t win and lose you championships in the NBA. Players do. No coach would have won a title with an injured Embiid last year.

Morey needs to add the missing pieces of Josh Harris needs to find a GM who can.

Wrong

Doc alone has cost at least one championship (watch game 7 again vs the Lakers went full bench derp mode like always)

Game 1 and 7 against the Hawks and any number of games when he coached the Clips.

It’s actually the FO/management that has the biggest stake on team success. That goes for all sports.

Nepotism is high in business it’s a lot higher the higher you climb.

[Murray_17]

Honestly, they are stuck with each other because they aren't going to get better by trading him and are just going to be giving away major assets they are going to need down the line to make a big trade. If he bounces back or as his contract tolls and becomes closer to expiring the cost and calculus starts to make more sense to the Nets and other teams to do a deal.

Personally, I am surprised they didn't put Joe Harris in either deal. He has no minutes or a spot anymore and most of his contract for this season is paid for and he just has one year left. He is going to limit what they will be able to do in the offseason. Should have forced a team to take him now rather than move him in a separate deal

They have right now 7 picks and one swap to get rid of that Simmons contract plus all the depth they acquired. If the Nets are rebuilding, they can wait to trade Joe Harris Next season when he becomes an expiring.

They're gonna be fine.

[Kobblehead]

Does Seth Curry ask for a buyout now?

[Slacktard]

Just goes to show, if you have an elite superstar like Durant, you can erase of lot of bad decisions.

That's true... but even though they've accumulated a lot of picks, but the question is after trading away their Big 3. Do you think Brooklyn's record/draft position in the next 5 seasons will be better or worse than the record/draft position of the team's who they now have first round picks (or swaps) with?

So basically
So
Phoenix 2023, 2025, 2027, 2028(swap option), 2029
Philly 2027 (top 8 protected)
Dallas 2029

vs
Brooklyn's record/draft position in
2023: Houston could swap with them if Brooklyn's pick is better
2024: Houston gets Brooklyn 1st(no protection)
2025: Houston can swap with Brooklyn
2026: Houston gets Brooklyn 1st(no protection)
2027: Houston can swap with Brooklyn

The caveat is the team still plays in NY and now has *A LOT* of future draft picks that they can use to chase a superstar as well. So it's not as if the roster they got now is going to be their regular rotation for next year and future years.