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Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread IV (Thurs Feb 9 3pm)

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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread IV (Thurs Feb 9 3pm) 

Post#1901 » by 2019nbachamps » Thu Feb 9, 2023 1:21 pm

Woj is on live now on ESPN:
-a number of western teams have made “significant” offers for OG
-still uncertainty which direction Raptors will go
-Woj raising question if OG’s value has gone up since teams may need OG to guard KD
-maybe Raptors wait until the summer

Windy points out that KD trade means Nets have a glut of wings which makes wings more readily available for the rest of the league and hence reduces OG’s trade value.
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread IV (Thurs Feb 9 3pm) 

Post#1902 » by Rapsfan07 » Thu Feb 9, 2023 1:21 pm

Not sure what our front office is doing.

Moving picks for veterans when we're not even close to contending, now it seems we want young players and picks in return for OG?

Just really confused here.
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread IV (Thurs Feb 9 3pm) 

Post#1903 » by T-d0t » Thu Feb 9, 2023 1:23 pm

2019nbachamps wrote:Woj is on live now on ESPN:
-a number of western teams have made “significant” offers for OG
-still uncertainty which direction Raptors will go
-Woj raising question if OG’s value has gone up since teams may need OG to guard KD
-maybe Raptors wait until the summer

Windy points out that KD trade means Nets have a glut of wings which makes wings more readily available for the rest of the league and hence reduces OG’s trade value.

How is there uncertainty after the Poeltl trade?
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread IV (Thurs Feb 9 3pm) 

Post#1904 » by Rumi » Thu Feb 9, 2023 1:24 pm

Why don't we trade for Bridges?
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread IV (Thurs Feb 9 3pm) 

Post#1905 » by MoneyBall » Thu Feb 9, 2023 1:25 pm

I really hope there's nothing behind those Eric Gordon rumours.
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread IV (Thurs Feb 9 3pm) 

Post#1906 » by TorontoBarneys » Thu Feb 9, 2023 1:26 pm

What can PHX even offer for OG now post-trade? They'd obviously want him but I doubt they have the assets.
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread IV (Thurs Feb 9 3pm) 

Post#1907 » by Psubs » Thu Feb 9, 2023 1:29 pm

Rumi wrote:Why don't we trade for Bridges?


Because he's the centerpiece of the trade and likely cost as much as OG's value or more.
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread IV (Thurs Feb 9 3pm) 

Post#1908 » by Brinbe » Thu Feb 9, 2023 1:29 pm

Rapsfan07 wrote:Not sure what our front office is doing.

Moving picks for veterans when we're not even close to contending, now it seems we want young players and picks in return for OG?

Just really confused here.

Exactly. Still trying to win-now/retool and develop at the same time.
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread IV (Thurs Feb 9 3pm) 

Post#1909 » by Lord_Zedd » Thu Feb 9, 2023 1:29 pm

TorontoBarneys wrote:What can PHX even offer for OG now post-trade? They'd obviously want him but I doubt they have the assets.


Nothing anymore. Their cupboard of draft picks and young players are empty and Ayton sucks.
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread IV (Thurs Feb 9 3pm) 

Post#1910 » by 2019nbachamps » Thu Feb 9, 2023 1:31 pm

T-d0t wrote:
2019nbachamps wrote:Woj is on live now on ESPN:
-a number of western teams have made “significant” offers for OG
-still uncertainty which direction Raptors will go
-Woj raising question if OG’s value has gone up since teams may need OG to guard KD
-maybe Raptors wait until the summer

Windy points out that KD trade means Nets have a glut of wings which makes wings more readily available for the rest of the league and hence reduces OG’s trade value.

How is there uncertainty after the Poeltl trade?


That’s what Windy said. Said it’s clear Raps want to win now after the trade.
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread IV (Thurs Feb 9 3pm) 

Post#1911 » by RapsFanInOhio » Thu Feb 9, 2023 1:32 pm

Rapsfan07 wrote:Not sure what our front office is doing.

Moving picks for veterans when we're not even close to contending, now it seems we want young players and picks in return for OG?

Just really confused here.

It’s structuring the roster in a more conventional way. They’ve needed a center forever and likely weren’t going to get Poeltl signed without his bird rights. So that’s a hole they fixed and it’s not like Poeltl is 30+ - his contract extension is going to cover his prime years.

The other piece of this is maximizing value. OG has absolute peak value, so if you move him you’re likely getting a haul of assets back - some of which make up for what we paid for Poeltl. If you move Fred, you avoid a S&T scenario and open up a bigger role for OG.

Change needed to be made, but they were never going to blow it up completely.
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread IV (Thurs Feb 9 3pm) 

Post#1912 » by Martin1465 » Thu Feb 9, 2023 1:32 pm

Unfortunately I think FVV will be sticking around, the Poeltl trade tells me that we want to remain somewhat competitive. If that's the case, trading Fred for Suggs or another youngs guard plus picks doesn't seem like something the FO wants to do. Looks like OG will be the odd man out, hope we get a haul for him.
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread IV (Thurs Feb 9 3pm) 

Post#1913 » by Rapsfan07 » Thu Feb 9, 2023 1:33 pm

TorontoBarneys wrote:What can PHX even offer for OG now post-trade? They'd obviously want him but I doubt they have the assets.


Nothing. You'd have to look at either Memphis, New Orleans or Portland for a deal now.

And even then, Nets have Bridges whos better than OG and could be available as well
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread IV (Thurs Feb 9 3pm) 

Post#1914 » by TheRaptor! » Thu Feb 9, 2023 1:35 pm

Rapsfan07 wrote:Not sure what our front office is doing.

Moving picks for veterans when we're not even close to contending, now it seems we want young players and picks in return for OG?

Just really confused here.


We want back good prospects for OG at a smaller salary

Just because youre not going all in for a KD like trade doesnt mean you have to be trading assets to tank

I think our interest in Hyland and Eric Gordon tells us the office knows we still lack scoring off the bench and we are in no way done yet.

OG needs to go, not only because he wants out, but he also severely lacks offence to make us a good team along side siakam and Barnes - think ISO, half court, playoff basketball in the clutch
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread IV (Thurs Feb 9 3pm) 

Post#1915 » by T-d0t » Thu Feb 9, 2023 1:36 pm

2019nbachamps wrote:
T-d0t wrote:
2019nbachamps wrote:Woj is on live now on ESPN:
-a number of western teams have made “significant” offers for OG
-still uncertainty which direction Raptors will go
-Woj raising question if OG’s value has gone up since teams may need OG to guard KD
-maybe Raptors wait until the summer

Windy points out that KD trade means Nets have a glut of wings which makes wings more readily available for the rest of the league and hence reduces OG’s trade value.

How is there uncertainty after the Poeltl trade?


That’s what Windy said. Said it’s clear Raps want to win now after the trade.



I believe you, I'm just confused on his wording. After getting Poeltl its clear that Raps want to win now
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread IV (Thurs Feb 9 3pm) 

Post#1916 » by TheRaptor! » Thu Feb 9, 2023 1:37 pm

Martin1465 wrote:Unfortunately I think FVV will be sticking around, the Poeltl trade tells me that we want to remain somewhat competitive. If that's the case, trading Fred for Suggs or another youngs guard plus picks doesn't seem like something the FO wants to do. Looks like OG will be the odd man out, hope we get a haul for him.


Unless OG and Fred is shipped for a starting PG
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread IV (Thurs Feb 9 3pm) 

Post#1917 » by Morse Code » Thu Feb 9, 2023 1:39 pm

Syd-TK3 wrote:If masai wastes assets or picks on Jakob Poetl...

How you feeling rn bro
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread IV (Thurs Feb 9 3pm) 

Post#1918 » by traps#10 » Thu Feb 9, 2023 1:39 pm

Rapsfan07 wrote:
TorontoBarneys wrote:What can PHX even offer for OG now post-trade? They'd obviously want him but I doubt they have the assets.


Nothing. You'd have to look at either Memphis, New Orleans or Portland for a deal now.

And even then, Nets have Bridges whos better than OG and could be available as well


Don’t think Nets want to rid Bridges, he’s still young and is pretty good. Nets have a glut of forwards now tho but they’re not as good as OG. I can see a Bucks and Nets trade for Crowder or a Nets and Heat trade.
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread IV (Thurs Feb 9 3pm) 

Post#1919 » by mtcan » Thu Feb 9, 2023 1:39 pm

TheRaptor! wrote:
Martin1465 wrote:Unfortunately I think FVV will be sticking around, the Poeltl trade tells me that we want to remain somewhat competitive. If that's the case, trading Fred for Suggs or another youngs guard plus picks doesn't seem like something the FO wants to do. Looks like OG will be the odd man out, hope we get a haul for him.


Unless OG and Fred is shipped for a starting PG

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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread IV (Thurs Feb 9 3pm) 

Post#1920 » by Tha Cynic » Thu Feb 9, 2023 1:40 pm

I don't know if the team is looking to win now or trying to increase value in players for future trades. This team is no where good enough to compete in the next year or two.
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