Knicks trade for Josh Hart

[nedleeds]

Burks > Hart.

I’m sure we’ll all like Hart but come on this cant be the only thing we’re doin. Not a star trade but not a youth move either. Hes going to cut into Grimes, IQ, and RJs minutes a bit.

Funny, we had to pay to get rid of Burks and even more to get our short NO 3 & great D wing Hart.

Kevin Knox died for this!

[shtolky]

Charlotte 1st and our 1st for Josh Hart.

Do you clown sheep lords know Josh Hart is a CAA client

EXTEND AND PAY LEONS SON HIS MONEY!

That Charlotte pick is lotto protected through 2025 and then it would become two seconds. With the way that franchise is being run that pick is probably never a first rounder. Our pick is lotto protected so even if we miss the playoffs (still very plausible), we wouldn’t have given up a first for Hart.

[Reign23]

Team tank down bad today

who is still team tank? we are 4 games over .500 almost 60 games into the season

[HopelessKnick]

When Leon aka the fat pig was hired it was said "he got the connections, he'll get the stars, he is da ****"----3 years later:

He tampered and threw every shady move he had to bring Brunson home (which granted was a good move but could have easily backfired harshly if the NBA decided to punish the Knicks more severely--like multiple FRPs so he lucked out)

Then he got us Bullock, Noel, Fournier, Burks (all on mediocre or bad deals), Hartenstein and now Hart. He drafted Obi who was subsequently buried on the bench. Traded an FRP for the right to bench Cam for 1,5 years.

His tenure has turned into an absolute desaster---not better than any of his predecessors----this pig is a snake oil salesman. He got nothing, no connections, is not competent, cannot make any beneficial trades. He is a purely incompetent imbecile.

[oldshoolballer]

Fun fact Josh Hart is related to Yankees great Elston Howard. Destiny?

[HopelessKnick]

Team tank down bad today

who is still team tank? we are 4 games over .500 almost 60 games into the season

We are now team first round demolition. We have now 26 games to determine our future-to-be rapist.

[Galvationknicks]

Team tank down bad today

who is still team tank? we are 4 games over .500 almost 60 games into the season

I got it
Team Mid is up today

[KnixinSix]

From the NY Post: After Hart had 10 points and 19 rebounds in an overtime win over the Knicks in November, Thibodeau said, “That’s what he does. He’s probably the best rebounding guard in the league. So, when the ball goes up, if you stand and stare, that’s gonna be a problem. If you turn and check, then there’s gotta be a physicality to it. He’s got a great nose for the ball. He anticipates well. He’s strong. We knew that would be a challenge.”

Obviously Hart is Thibs kind of guy and for better or worse the FO is remaining commited for the present moment in providing Thibs the type of team/players he prefers.

[ag3]

When Leon aka the fat pig was hired it was said "he got the connections, he'll get the stars, he is da ****"----3 years later:

He tampered and threw every shady move he had to bring Brunson home (which granted was a good move but could have easily backfired harshly if the NBA decided to punish the Knicks more severely--like multiple FRPs so he lucked out)

Then he got us Bullock, Noel, Fournier, Burks (all on mediocre or bad deals), Hartenstein and now Hart. He drafted Obi who was subsequently buried on the bench. Traded an FRP for the right to bench Cam for 1,5 years.

His tenure has turned into an absolute desaster---not better than any of his predecessors----this pig is a snake oil salesman. He got nothing, no connections, is not competent, cannot make any beneficial trades. He is a purely incompetent imbecile.

Brunson is our best player since Carmelo and is young.

Brunson is already a borderline star and is still getting better as he enters his prime.

[KnicksGadfly]

Shoulda just drafted Mikal. Then we wouldn't need to trade Knox, who started this whole cycle with us ending up with Hart.

Why is Perry still around again?

[nedleeds]

When Leon aka the fat pig was hired it was said "he got the connections, he'll get the stars, he is da ****"----3 years later:

He tampered and threw every shady move he had to bring Brunson home (which granted was a good move but could have easily backfired harshly if the NBA decided to punish the Knicks more severely--like multiple FRPs so he lucked out)

Then he got us Bullock, Noel, Fournier, Burks (all on mediocre or bad deals), Hartenstein and now Hart. He drafted Obi who was subsequently buried on the bench. Traded an FRP for the right to bench Cam for 1,5 years.

His tenure has turned into an absolute desaster---not better than any of his predecessors----this pig is a snake oil salesman. He got nothing, no connections, is not competent, cannot make any beneficial trades. He is a purely incompetent imbecile.

Brunson is our best player since Carmelo and is young.

Brunson is already a borderline star and is still getting better as he enters his prime.

Brunson
Randle
Hart
I-Hart
The Orc Coach
Brunsons Dad
Obi

all CAA clients. This entire thing is just a mechanism to siphon money from Dolan's wallet to Leon Rose's kid and his CAA stock holdings.

You're all just blind.

[nedleeds]

Charlotte 1st and our 1st for Josh Hart.

Do you clown sheep lords know Josh Hart is a CAA client

EXTEND AND PAY LEONS SON HIS MONEY!

That Charlotte pick is lotto protected through 2025 and then it would become two seconds. With the way that franchise is being run that pick is probably never a first rounder. Our pick is lotto protected so even if we miss the playoffs (still very plausible), we wouldn’t have given up a first for Hart.

But that's not how picks work as assets. It's still a potential 1st round pick and can be packaged and traded and has moderate value. If you want to drag the timeline left and right we gave up

9th Pick 2018 Draft
Charlotte future 1st
Knicks 2023 1st

for Josh Hart. Which not on the scale of Gobert or the raping the Nets just gave Phoenix but it's a horrific trade.

The sole reason Josh Hart is targeted is because he's a CAA client up for extension. Leon Rose works for CAA. We'll extend Hart (like Randle ... who we extended early to get CAA paid) for no basketball reason and Sam Rose will get his new Lambo.

[god shammgod]

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[KnixinSix]

When Leon aka the fat pig was hired it was said "he got the connections, he'll get the stars, he is da ****"----3 years later:

He tampered and threw every shady move he had to bring Brunson home (which granted was a good move but could have easily backfired harshly if the NBA decided to punish the Knicks more severely--like multiple FRPs so he lucked out)

Then he got us Bullock, Noel, Fournier, Burks (all on mediocre or bad deals), Hartenstein and now Hart. He drafted Obi who was subsequently buried on the bench. Traded an FRP for the right to bench Cam for 1,5 years.

His tenure has turned into an absolute desaster---not better than any of his predecessors----this pig is a snake oil salesman. He got nothing, no connections, is not competent, cannot make any beneficial trades. He is a purely incompetent imbecile.

A little over the top there my friend. We are positioned quite well to be able to get a Superstar. The only one you can say he potentially struck out on that so far had a chance to come here was Spidah. You want to blame him for that I can accept that as I think if he ponies up a little more (which wouldn't have been too out of line for the going rate for a Superstar) we probably have Mitchell right now.

But the team is actually pretty well constructed and deep. And the Hart move gets us a bit closer to a solidifed Thibs style roster sans the final superstar piece. Brunson and Randle have clearly shown they can be part of a big 3. Just need the top dog to complete the picture now. If he gets that top dog the right one, then he accomplishes the biggest thing he was brought here for. He has done an OK (not great but fairly decent job) getting us in position for that star.

[FrozenEnvelope]

The more I think about it the more I dislike this trade. Mainly cause of Deuce! He was just starting to figure it out and now he's going to be demoted to the bench. Did we really need to upgrade his rotation assignment of playing 10 mpg? This trade just does nothing. Hart really adds nothing to what we already have. He's pretty much just going to just clog the rotation without providing much of an upgrade.

This only makes sense if you trade RJ or Grimes.

[Enzo954]

Hart will be fine. Did you all see Brunsons reaction when we traded for him? Brunson will make sure Hart not only feels welcomed but he will push him to be better than he currently is. These 2 are extremely tight and will play well together.

[KnixinSix]

When Leon aka the fat pig was hired it was said "he got the connections, he'll get the stars, he is da ****"----3 years later:

He tampered and threw every shady move he had to bring Brunson home (which granted was a good move but could have easily backfired harshly if the NBA decided to punish the Knicks more severely--like multiple FRPs so he lucked out)

Then he got us Bullock, Noel, Fournier, Burks (all on mediocre or bad deals), Hartenstein and now Hart. He drafted Obi who was subsequently buried on the bench. Traded an FRP for the right to bench Cam for 1,5 years.

His tenure has turned into an absolute desaster---not better than any of his predecessors----this pig is a snake oil salesman. He got nothing, no connections, is not competent, cannot make any beneficial trades. He is a purely incompetent imbecile.

Brunson is our best player since Carmelo and is young.

Brunson is already a borderline star and is still getting better as he enters his prime.

Brunson
Randle
Hart
I-Hart
The Orc Coach
Brunsons Dad
Obi

all CAA clients. This entire thing is just a mechanism to siphon money from Dolan's wallet to Leon Rose's kid and his CAA stock holdings.

You're all just blind.

Lets say this has some truth to it. If his connections get us a Superstar and get this team firmly in place as a championship contender , would you complain?

I get he hasn't delivered on the superstar yet but I am willing to give it a bit more time. This team in 2 of the last 3 years is above .500 which is a diametrically big improvement vs the crap weve seen the better part of the 21st century.

[shtolky]

Charlotte 1st and our 1st for Josh Hart.

Do you clown sheep lords know Josh Hart is a CAA client

EXTEND AND PAY LEONS SON HIS MONEY!

That Charlotte pick is lotto protected through 2025 and then it would become two seconds. With the way that franchise is being run that pick is probably never a first rounder. Our pick is lotto protected so even if we miss the playoffs (still very plausible), we wouldn’t have given up a first for Hart.

But that's not how picks work as assets. It's still a potential 1st round pick and can be packaged and traded and has moderate value. If you want to drag the timeline left and right we gave up

9th Pick 2018 Draft
Charlotte future 1st
Knicks 2023 1st

for Josh Hart. Which not on the scale of Gobert or the raping the Nets just gave Phoenix but it's a horrific trade.

The sole reason Josh Hart is targeted is because he's a CAA client up for extension. Leon Rose works for CAA. We'll extend Hart (like Randle ... who we extended early to get CAA paid) for no basketball reason and Sam Rose will get his new Lambo.

I know how picks work as assets, but you still have to take into account that the value of the protected assets take a hit when you factor in the protection and the team that owns the pick, in this case, Charlotte, who has shown a recent history of not sniffing the playoffs. You're saying we traded the 9th pick in the 2018 draft, Charlotte future 1st, and Knicks 2023 first, when that sounds 1000x worse than saying we traded Kevin Knox, a lotto protected Charlotte first which only has two years left of 1st round possibilities, and a lotto protected Knicks 1st. We still have the Dallas pick, all our picks, the Washington, Detroit, and Milwaukee picks which have much lower protections than the Charlotte pick we gave up for Reddish.

Also, I get the CAA thing, but two guys you mentioned, Brunson and Randle are all-stars, so there must have been some basketball reason to get those guys.

[mpharris36]

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Yes, on a team that was roughly pretty bad defensively with Portland...he stood out as a good defender.

[nyknicks09]

And Thibs is going to sample Hart for us to miss the playoffs. Hart will determine if he wants to stay base on the minutes giving to him the remainder of the season or he walks out but I see Thibs playing Hart to appease Leon Rose’s and FO’s mistakes.