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Re: Sixers trade deadline thread - Feb. 9th. 

Post#401 » by FireMorey » Thu Feb 9, 2023 3:24 pm

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FireMorey wrote:The Sixers have never lost because of their coach. They’ve lost either because their roster wasn’t good enough or because their best players were injured and/or came up small. Coaches don’t win and lose you championships in the NBA. Players do. No coach would have won a title with an injured Embiid last year.


If coaches don't matter why are you such a defender of doc? didn't you want us to resign him after the Heat series, just "to send a message"?

I’m a defender of people who are unfairly criticized. That doesn’t mean I think he’s a great coach, because I don’t. In fact, I didn’t even want the Sixers to hire him back when everyone else did. However, the criticism of him has gone way over the top to the point of absurdity. Every loss is blamed on Rivers. Every failure. Every mistake. The criticism distribution on this team by the fan base is completely askew.
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Post#402 » by Kova » Thu Feb 9, 2023 3:25 pm

If we could somehow snatch Mikal Bridges from the Nets, I'd be thrilled.
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Post#403 » by Wilfried » Thu Feb 9, 2023 3:31 pm

Kova wrote:If we could somehow snatch Mikal Bridges from the Nets, I'd be thrilled.


How?
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Post#404 » by Negrodamus » Thu Feb 9, 2023 3:32 pm

I think the funniest thing that could happen would be Russell Westbrook signing with us to be the second unit point guard.
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Post#405 » by Murray_17 » Thu Feb 9, 2023 3:34 pm

FireMorey wrote:I’m a defender of people who are unfairly criticized. That doesn’t mean I think he’s a great coach, because I don’t. In fact, I didn’t even want the Sixers to hire him back when everyone else did. However, the criticism of him has gone way over the top to the point of absurdity. Every loss is blamed on Rivers. Every failure. Every mistake. The criticism distribution on this team by the fan base is completely askew.



So you wanted the team to do a dumb move because you think people criticize Doc too much? That? :lol:
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Post#406 » by FireMorey » Thu Feb 9, 2023 3:38 pm

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FireMorey wrote:I’m a defender of people who are unfairly criticized. That doesn’t mean I think he’s a great coach, because I don’t. In fact, I didn’t even want the Sixers to hire him back when everyone else did. However, the criticism of him has gone way over the top to the point of absurdity. Every loss is blamed on Rivers. Every failure. Every mistake. The criticism distribution on this team by the fan base is completely askew.



So you wanted the team to do a dumb move because you think people criticize Doc too much? That? :lol:


What dumb move are you talking about? Extending Rivers?

I didn't want the team to do it as much as I wanted to see people meltdown over it. The entertainment value of that would have been worth every penny they gave him to me.
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Post#407 » by Murray_17 » Thu Feb 9, 2023 3:41 pm

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What dumb move are you talking about? Extending Rivers?

I didn't want the team to do it as much as I wanted to see people meltdown over it. The entertainment value of that would have been worth every penny they gave him to me.


Oh, is some kind of "own the libs" thing :lol:

Why i didn't see it coming
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Post#408 » by phillynative » Thu Feb 9, 2023 3:50 pm

Morey has been fraud twiddling his thumbs lol
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Post#409 » by 76Love » Thu Feb 9, 2023 3:53 pm

I really don't have much trust in Morey myself but I am giving him a chance by 3pm

Hopefully he is on the phone as we speak
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Post#410 » by AI_Efficiency » Thu Feb 9, 2023 3:58 pm

76Love wrote:I really don't have much trust in Morey myself but I am giving him a chance by 3pm

Hopefully he is on the phone as we speak

I don't know that anyone could do much this year with the assets we have and what is available. I somewhat think you try and convince Harden and Embiid to give it one more shot next year and then you trade Harris when hes on the last year of his deal, plus Maxey and a draft pick, for the best player we can get.
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Post#411 » by Wilfried » Thu Feb 9, 2023 4:04 pm

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76Love wrote:I really don't have much trust in Morey myself but I am giving him a chance by 3pm

Hopefully he is on the phone as we speak

I don't know that anyone could do much this year with the assets we have and what is available. I somewhat think you try and convince Harden and Embiid to give it one more shot next year and then you trade Harris when hes on the last year of his deal, plus Maxey and a draft pick, for the best player we can get.


Exactly my thoughts and probably our best chance, given how stacked Boston is and now Phoenix also.
Next season, Boston probably still is very good (but Horford another year older and don't know if they are going to match a qualifier to G. Williams, because of tax) but we should go all-in than.
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Post#412 » by Murray_17 » Thu Feb 9, 2023 4:07 pm

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Negrodamus wrote:I think we will trade, but the expectations should be tempered. Thybulle will likely go and we're also trying to shed salary for luxury tax reasons.



Which is why i think our more likely trade partner is the Spurs, they want to increase their salary and we want to cut it.



Welp, report is we are interested in Collins
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Post#413 » by Slacktard » Thu Feb 9, 2023 4:08 pm

Kova wrote:If we could somehow snatch Mikal Bridges from the Nets, I'd be thrilled.

I mean I could see them trading Bridges, but I don't think the Sixers are a realistic partner.

If you look at Bridges he's sort of Iguodala at a similar age. He's not a #1 or #2. He's not carrying your team. He's probably not even really a "#3", but if you had 2 legit superstars he would be fine there.

Problem is for the nets they got no #1 or #2 superstars. So having "Iguodala" making $20m+ a year for a team who to get back to being a contender needs two more stars isn't really a great spot.

I think for the Nets the best move is to view next year as a 'wash' and then 'pump and dump' on Bridges. Give him a bigger role than he had on the Suns and chance to raise up his stats and hope that gets another team to overpay while you shuffle around assets to retool/rebuild. Going in the tank completely serves no purpose since they don't own their own picks.
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Re: Sixers trade deadline thread - Feb. 9th. 

Post#414 » by Stanford » Thu Feb 9, 2023 4:10 pm

Murray_17 wrote:
Murray_17 wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:I think we will trade, but the expectations should be tempered. Thybulle will likely go and we're also trying to shed salary for luxury tax reasons.



Which is why i think our more likely trade partner is the Spurs, they want to increase their salary and we want to cut it.



Welp, report is we are interested in Collins


Collins is good, no? I'd love to have him.
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Post#415 » by Murray_17 » Thu Feb 9, 2023 4:13 pm

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Collins is good, no? I'd love to have him.



Yeah, he's a lot better than any center back up we had previously. He's super injury prone tho
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Post#416 » by Negrodamus » Thu Feb 9, 2023 4:14 pm

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Collins is good, no? I'd love to have him.



Yeah, he's a lot better than any center back up we had previously. He's super injury prone tho


You should probably put a Z in front of that Collins. You don't want to be inundated by John Collins stans on here.
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Post#417 » by nitocobola » Thu Feb 9, 2023 4:28 pm

yall can blame morey all you want, but he isn't the one who overpaid for horford and tobias.

Hiring elton brand and colangelo was an stupid mistake by the ownership
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Post#418 » by mjkvol » Thu Feb 9, 2023 4:42 pm

Ferry Avenue wrote:The team should be looking at something like this:

https://phillysportsnetwork.com/2023/01/31/mock-trade-sixers-tyrese-maxey/


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Post#419 » by FireMorey » Thu Feb 9, 2023 4:43 pm

It was a collection of failures.

Morey's free agent signings are: Tucker - bad, House - bad, Harrell - bad, Jordan - bad, Korkmaz - bad. That's 0-5. If the Sixers just hit on half of their FA signings they'd have significantly more depth, and at the top of the conference that might be the difference.

And his best move(Simmons for Harden) wasn't like he pulled a rabbit out of the hat. Harden forced his way to the Sixers.

Remember when Hinkie whipped out his Kings trade out of nowhere? I miss having a GM who could make moves like that. Blow the fan base away with something no one saw coming. Every move Morey makes is something the fans have seen a mile away. Either ex-Rockets or sign some over the hill backup center. And I get the Sixers aren't ripe with resources, but a lot of teams aren't ripe with resources. The Lakers aren't and they just found a way to get 3 starting caliber players for Westbrook and a protected pick.

Telling you, Morey has been coasting since he got that mega contract from Harris. Dude displays no urgency. It's reflected in every move he makes and the lack of creativity behind all of his moves.
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Post#420 » by 76ciology » Thu Feb 9, 2023 4:46 pm

actually it’s Ed Stefanski and Billy King’s fault. If they did a better job drafting and building a team we could had started with more assets just as how teams like the Rox who have a ton of pick during their rebuilding process.

And to go further, alot of the mistake was in holding unto Iguodala when we should have easily tanked that season and drafted Durant. Most people here wanted Iguodala and does not want to rebuild.

Then to go further, we should have traded Iverson earlier when his value was high and not settle for just a package around Andre Miller.
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