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I think it's too late to include a 3rd team. It'll be interesting to see what kind of team the Nets have. I just want to see them finish ahead of the Bulls.Nyce_1 wrote:anyone except Paolo/Franz for Mikal.
I'd start with our 2 picks this year (top 2 protect our own), next year swap, PG of their choice + Bamba.
eyriq wrote:I think our big splash will come out of our decision between Fultz/Cole/Suggs. Or we reclassify Suggs as an undersized swing-man or our starting shooting guard.
Edit: Another friction point is between Bol and Isaac. Isaac is a starter quality forward already and Bol still has a ton of upside as a forward.
Double edit: another issue is Moe Wagner as the backup center. We need a power center in the rotation.
I think all these issues get ironed out in the offseason.
tooler wrote:Can we still sign FVV if we trade for Bridges? Otherwise we still need a long term answer at PG.
pepe1991 wrote:Just compare Magic and Lakers. One team menaged to build championship roster in 2010 ( Magic blew up in 2011), tank, rebuild, fail rebuild, get Lebron, trade for Davis, win championship, f****it all up, and now retooled whole roster in team nobody wants to play againt in playoffs... In mean time... Magic... rebuild... rebuild.... did i mentioned Rebuild?
pepe1991 wrote:It's not about "splash", Cole and Fultz are restricted and unrestricted free agents in summer of 2024.
They will either marry designed max contract ( 99% will happen) to Franz, and give Fultz and/or Cole massive contracts, or they will trade them in search for starting PG.
Magic, as it seems right now, are fine with probably 8 players being free agents next year. + Mortiz Wagner who is FA this year.
I find that notion crazy , but Weltman and Hammond simply don't care, they will rather do nothing but "lose" trades. In mean time teams build, blow up and build again faster than Magic move their "chess board" pawn in first move.
League today is frenzy. They are stuck in 1995 and their "buidling roster ways".
Just compare Magic and Lakers. One team menaged to build championship roster in 2010 ( Magic blew up in 2011), tank, rebuild, fail rebuild, get Lebron, trade for Davis, win championship, f****it all up, and now retooled whole roster in team nobody wants to play againt in playoffs... In mean time... Magic... rebuild... rebuild.... did i mentioned Rebuild?
Like for f*** sake you have 4 PGs on roster and nobody is near starting level PG. You finally menaged to draft well, start building something around your two best players. You won't draft 9 rotation players.
pepe1991 wrote:eyriq wrote:I think our big splash will come out of our decision between Fultz/Cole/Suggs. Or we reclassify Suggs as an undersized swing-man or our starting shooting guard.
Edit: Another friction point is between Bol and Isaac. Isaac is a starter quality forward already and Bol still has a ton of upside as a forward.
Double edit: another issue is Moe Wagner as the backup center. We need a power center in the rotation.
I think all these issues get ironed out in the offseason.
League today is frenzy. They are stuck in 1995 and their "buidling roster ways".
Just compare Magic and Lakers. One team menaged to build championship roster in 2010 ( Magic blew up in 2011), tank, rebuild, fail rebuild, get Lebron, trade for Davis, win championship, f****it all up, and now retooled whole roster in team nobody wants to play againt in playoffs... In mean time... Magic... rebuild... rebuild.... did i mentioned Rebuild?
MagicMatic wrote:pepe1991 wrote:eyriq wrote:I think our big splash will come out of our decision between Fultz/Cole/Suggs. Or we reclassify Suggs as an undersized swing-man or our starting shooting guard.
Edit: Another friction point is between Bol and Isaac. Isaac is a starter quality forward already and Bol still has a ton of upside as a forward.
Double edit: another issue is Moe Wagner as the backup center. We need a power center in the rotation.
I think all these issues get ironed out in the offseason.
League today is frenzy. They are stuck in 1995 and their "buidling roster ways".
Just compare Magic and Lakers. One team menaged to build championship roster in 2010 ( Magic blew up in 2011), tank, rebuild, fail rebuild, get Lebron, trade for Davis, win championship, f****it all up, and now retooled whole roster in team nobody wants to play againt in playoffs... In mean time... Magic... rebuild... rebuild.... did i mentioned Rebuild?
You do realize that small markets have to draft their superstar players right?
Having Lebron walk through the front door changes everything they do.
Milwaukee also doesn’t win a championship without drafting Giannis.
Boston doesn’t make the ECF without drafting Tatum and Brown.
It’s also a double edged sword. Brooklyn is in shambles now after attempting to build a super team this way. Clippers also mortgaged their future and will be considered failures if they don’t win.
I find it hilarious these teams are trading 3-4 first round picks to lose in the second round of the playoffs for the next 3 seasons. How will they even get better if they fail? By trading bad assets for worse picks and players? Why? Because the Warriors blueprint is so unattainable despite being the last great dynasty.
JoshuaPotter wrote:MagicMatic wrote:pepe1991 wrote:
League today is frenzy. They are stuck in 1995 and their "buidling roster ways".
Just compare Magic and Lakers. One team menaged to build championship roster in 2010 ( Magic blew up in 2011), tank, rebuild, fail rebuild, get Lebron, trade for Davis, win championship, f****it all up, and now retooled whole roster in team nobody wants to play againt in playoffs... In mean time... Magic... rebuild... rebuild.... did i mentioned Rebuild?
You do realize that small markets have to draft their superstar players right?
Having Lebron walk through the front door changes everything they do.
Milwaukee also doesn’t win a championship without drafting Giannis.
Boston doesn’t make the ECF without drafting Tatum and Brown.
It’s also a double edged sword. Brooklyn is in shambles now after attempting to build a super team this way. Clippers also mortgaged their future and will be considered failures if they don’t win.
I find it hilarious these teams are trading 3-4 first round picks to lose in the second round of the playoffs for the next 3 seasons. How will they even get better if they fail? By trading bad assets for worse picks and players? Why? Because the Warriors blueprint is so unattainable despite being the last great dynasty.
Warriors *draft* cough cough *drafted* cough cough
MagicMatic wrote:JoshuaPotter wrote:MagicMatic wrote:
You do realize that small markets have to draft their superstar players right?
Having Lebron walk through the front door changes everything they do.
Milwaukee also doesn’t win a championship without drafting Giannis.
Boston doesn’t make the ECF without drafting Tatum and Brown.
It’s also a double edged sword. Brooklyn is in shambles now after attempting to build a super team this way. Clippers also mortgaged their future and will be considered failures if they don’t win.
I find it hilarious these teams are trading 3-4 first round picks to lose in the second round of the playoffs for the next 3 seasons. How will they even get better if they fail? By trading bad assets for worse picks and players? Why? Because the Warriors blueprint is so unattainable despite being the last great dynasty.
Warriors *draft* cough cough *drafted* cough cough
Stars aligned for Warriors and they built the right way at the right time.
Silicon Valley isn’t necessarily a small market. It sure didn’t hurt them when they can pay ridiculous amounts of luxury tax, instead of dipping into owners pockets, to keep all of their players.
I’m not sure why trying to emulate their building process is less convenient than making trades that cripple your franchise for the next 5 years because you want to be relevant in the short term.
fendilim wrote:What a boring snoring drowsing deadline for the team