[SHAMS/WOJ] Spurs trade Jakob Poeltl to the Raptors for Khem Birch, ‘24 1st and 2 2nds…

[LegendOfSalmons]

Jakob is underrated... Raptors seem content on being stuck in purgatory though. Wish someone else would have gotten JP...

If anyone would know, it's Nets fans.

[Raps in 4]

:o Oh... Solid. I like it for us:

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Trade grade

Spurs - A+
Raptors - F

Horrible trade for the Raptors for a guy they could have signed in FA. Now Poetl’s agent has Masai by the balls. They gotta overpay to keep him.

Yeah, we got fleeced.

I like Yak. But giving up a lightly protected FRP for him isn't what this team should be doing.

[MightyMouse10]

Raptors don't tank. Never have under this regime. We build assets, create culture and pounce when the time is right. We have Scottie and this year's lottery pick for the future. We have two all-stars on decent contracts. The cap is about to explode to 171 m in 2025. What does Yak's value represent on a $20 mil contract in 2025, if OGs is three frps right now?

[canz55]

Spurs made out like **** bandits .....AGAIN!!!!

Holy **** this is ridiculously bad for us.

[Slim Charlez]

Really like this trade haul. Seems like the Raptors have been trying to do as a few solids with the Thad and Poeltl deals after fleecing us blind in 2018.

[Boardbreaker]

Raptors don't tank. Never have under this regime. We build assets, create culture and pounce when the time is right. We have Scottie and this year's lottery pick for the future. We have two all-stars on decent contracts. The cap is about to explode to 171 m in 2025. What does Yak's value represent on a $20 mil contract in 2025, if OGs is three frps right now?

I’d definitely say we pivoted to tank during the Tampa season.

[bisme37]

I like it for the Raps in the sense that Poeltl is good and helps their team, but I also don't really get why they bothered.

[phanman]

It was a slight overpay, but with what we've been trotting out the past few seasons at center, I can see why they made the move for a high character guy that the organization loves and was Pacal's BFFL. Surprised we had to give up 2x SRPs though but meh. At least we moved off Birch's 7m next season. I'll wait to see IF we make any other moves to put a grade in, but this isn't at trade we necessarily won or got fleeced in either.

[Pharmcat]

Raps got taken to the cleaners. Just awful . Rare L for Masai , wonder if he really into the job anymore

[Quattro]

I like it for the Raps in the sense that Poeltl is good and helps their team, but I also don't really get why they bothered.

Could be a shot at fixing their atrocious defense this year? Remember this same roster was one of the best teams in the nba in the second half of the season last year.

People like to harp about how bad their shooting is this year but really what’s done them in is their defense has taken a huge step back .

[bisme37]

I like it for the Raps in the sense that Poeltl is good and helps their team, but I also don't really get why they bothered.

Could be a shot at fixing their atrocious defense this year? Remember this same roster was one of the best teams in the nba in the second half of the season last year.

People like to hear about how bad their shooting is this year but really what’s done them in is their defense has taken a huge step back .

Yeah no it's like I'm just torn because I understand how he helps you guys but at the same time, unless there is some other big move, I kinda thought you'd be sellers more so than buyers, because it's not like the Raps are contenders now and you have some good players you could get a lot of value for.

[nikster]

:o Oh... Solid. I like it for us:

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Trade grade

Spurs - A+
Raptors - F

Horrible trade for the Raptors for a guy they could have signed in FA. Now Poetl’s agent has Masai by the balls. They gotta overpay to keep him.

Yeah, we got fleeced.

I like Yak. But giving up a lightly protected FRP for him isn't what this team should be doing.

It's the 2024 pick and this signals the team is planning on being competitive again. This has been a rough year but I don't think that pick is in top 10 and a chance it's not even in the lottery

Also we could not have signed him in free agency. We need his bird rights

[G R E Y]

I like it for the Raps in the sense that Poeltl is good and helps their team, but I also don't really get why they bothered.

Could be a shot at fixing their atrocious defense this year? Remember this same roster was one of the best teams in the nba in the second half of the season last year.

People like to hear about how bad their shooting is this year but really what’s done them in is their defense has taken a huge step back .

TO fans will be pleasantly surprised at the player Jakob has grown into. He'll clean up a lot of mistakes. Very high IQ and is more assertive and versatile on O now. Terrific facilitator and keeps the ball moving. And although his FTs leave much to be desired, he has brought up his average to near career high. He makes those around him better on and off the court.

[Froob]

:o Oh... Solid. I like it for us:

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Trade grade

Spurs - A+
Raptors - F

Horrible trade for the Raptors for a guy they could have signed in FA. Now Poetl’s agent has Masai by the balls. They gotta overpay to keep him.

Yeah, we got fleeced.

I like Yak. But giving up a lightly protected FRP for him isn't what this team should be doing.

Should have gotten at least top 14 protected.

[Froob]

:o Oh... Solid. I like it for us:

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Trade grade

Spurs - A+
Raptors - F

Horrible trade for the Raptors for a guy they could have signed in FA. Now Poetl’s agent has Masai by the balls. They gotta overpay to keep him.

Your FO offered Gallo (not sure how that's possible after we bought him out), PP, and some seconds (two or at least two) before we pivoted to this deal which had best protection and 2023 2nd round pick is underrated, too, I think.

Jakob preferred the TO option from among other interested teams so perhaps there's some negotiating room off of the $20M/yr he's seeking to stay where he likes. They have his Bird Rights now and get off the Birch contract.

We have definitely picked a direction and are disciplined about staying the course. This commitment is how you rebuild strong.

Wish Jakob all the best. I think TO fans will be pleasantly surprised at how much he's improved, especially a passing big. Great blocker, too.

I would have given a first if we could have gotten a wink-wink on Josh Richardson being bought out.

[MightyMouse10]

Raptors don't tank. Never have under this regime. We build assets, create culture and pounce when the time is right. We have Scottie and this year's lottery pick for the future. We have two all-stars on decent contracts. The cap is about to explode to 171 m in 2025. What does Yak's value represent on a $20 mil contract in 2025, if OGs is three frps right now?

I’d definitely say we pivoted to tank during the Tampa season.

Even then it was a pivot, similar to this year. We have never burned it to the ground. Separate argument for another day.

People are upset about giving up a 1st for Yak. We got out of a bad contract and gained a valuable asset(if extended) for the cost of a protected 1st. Those same people want 3 first round picks for OG and all unprotected. Insanity/Bi-polarity of being a Raptors fan

[G R E Y]

Trade grade

Spurs - A+
Raptors - F

Horrible trade for the Raptors for a guy they could have signed in FA. Now Poetl’s agent has Masai by the balls. They gotta overpay to keep him.

Your FO offered Gallo (not sure how that's possible after we bought him out), PP, and some seconds (two or at least two) before we pivoted to this deal which had best protection and 2023 2nd round pick is underrated, too, I think.

Jakob preferred the TO option from among other interested teams so perhaps there's some negotiating room off of the $20M/yr he's seeking to stay where he likes. They have his Bird Rights now and get off the Birch contract.

We have definitely picked a direction and are disciplined about staying the course. This commitment is how you rebuild strong.

Wish Jakob all the best. I think TO fans will be pleasantly surprised at how much he's improved, especially a passing big. Great blocker, too.

I would have given a first if we could have gotten a wink-wink on Josh Richardson being bought out.

seems there's interest in JRich so hopefully there's a bidding war. He'd definitely shore up your team or any other's looking to make a deep run. He can defend, facilitate, create his own shot, and hits 3s as you know. Cool cat personality and competitive spirit, too.

How about that first now?

[Froob]

Your FO offered Gallo (not sure how that's possible after we bought him out), PP, and some seconds (two or at least two) before we pivoted to this deal which had best protection and 2023 2nd round pick is underrated, too, I think.

Jakob preferred the TO option from among other interested teams so perhaps there's some negotiating room off of the $20M/yr he's seeking to stay where he likes. They have his Bird Rights now and get off the Birch contract.

We have definitely picked a direction and are disciplined about staying the course. This commitment is how you rebuild strong.

Wish Jakob all the best. I think TO fans will be pleasantly surprised at how much he's improved, especially a passing big. Great blocker, too.

I would have given a first if we could have gotten a wink-wink on Josh Richardson being bought out.

seems there's interest in JRich so hopefully there's a bidding war. He'd definitely shore up your team or any other's looking to make a deep run. He can defend, facilitate, create his own shot, and hits 3s as you know. Cool cat personality and competitive spirit, too.

How about that first now?

I don't know if we can trade for J Rich. I thought we could because this is a different league year but Keith Smith has tweeted we can only get him in a buyout. They should simplify this re-acquisition stuff, just make it so you can't sign a guy you traded away in the same season.

[Zeno]

I like it for the Raps in the sense that Poeltl is good and helps their team, but I also don't really get why they bothered.

There has to be something big coming or a spreadsheet somewhere that thinks it is really going to make a dramatic difference.

[Boardbreaker]

Raptors don't tank. Never have under this regime. We build assets, create culture and pounce when the time is right. We have Scottie and this year's lottery pick for the future. We have two all-stars on decent contracts. The cap is about to explode to 171 m in 2025. What does Yak's value represent on a $20 mil contract in 2025, if OGs is three frps right now?

I’d definitely say we pivoted to tank during the Tampa season.

Even then it was a pivot, similar to this year. We have never burned it to the ground. Separate argument for another day.

People are upset about giving up a 1st for Yak. We got out of a bad contract and gained a valuable asset(if extended) for the cost of a protected 1st. Those same people want 3 first round picks for OG and all unprotected. Insanity/Bi-polarity of being a Raptors fan

While I don’t exactly love it I don’t mind trading what I’m expecting to be a non-lottery pick next year for a starting C for the next couple seasons.