2023 Trade Deadline Thread: Conley/VanVleet/Lowry/etc. (Updated thread)

madmaxmedia · Post #361 » by **madmaxmedia** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 4:13 pm

TrueLAfan wrote:Terry Rozier has gotten the least commentary about coming here; I’m hoping that’s because he’s the one the FO wants. He's my sleeper choice.

I mean hypothetically we kill 2 birds with one stone in Rozier/Plummer, but not sure we have enough assets for both?

I imagine it would start with Mann, Kennard, and our 1st. RoCo as expiring salary filler, even though we all like him more than that, unless Morris maybe goes to another team in a 3-way deal.

Captain Ballmer · Post #362 » by **Captain Ballmer** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 4:14 pm

For Kyle Lowry,

In the 31 games he played around 30-39 minutes splits this season; he had 39% fg and 31% 3pt percentages on avarage 35 minutes per game. It's clearly too much for his 36 years old body.

but, in the 11 games he played around 20-29 minutes splits; he had 43% fg and 39% 3pt percentages on avarage 25.9 minutes per game. This is more respectable and in line with his career numbers. His true shooting rises from 55% to 58% when Lowry plays less. This is good, for comparison Reggie' true shooting is 52% on 25.7 minutes per game on the season. Lowry at limited only 25 minutes in regular season should be enough offensively.

Also, let's not forget Miami is one of the best defensive team in the league and Lowry is huge factor in that area. He can still help our perimeter D more than any guard we throw out there plus provide acceptable shooting numbers, playmaking and leadership.

MartinToVaught · Post #363 » by **MartinToVaught** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 4:41 pm

KL2 wrote:Not sure why some want the team to blow it up. It doesn’t matter what draft capital we get or what youngish players in return. As long as guys like Jackson and Morris are on the team Lue will give them the minutes.

Nobody "wants" to blow it up, but our window is closed and there's no moves out there that can reopen it. We can either rip the Band-Aid off now and start over, or waste more seasons delaying the inevitable and get less in return for our stars.

And yes, Lue needs to be fired regardless.

PeteyPablo · Post #364 » by **PeteyPablo** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 4:48 pm

Can some one elaborate on assistant coach ATKINS ?

was he the offensive coach? I recall during the lob city era , we had Gentry who helped our offense before becoming a head coach himself.

KL2 · Post #365 » by **KL2** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 4:59 pm

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I feel like if a rumor is leaked then we can go ahead and take it off the table.

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Says in recent days we inquired about Rozier/Plumlee.

KL2 · Post #366 » by **KL2** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 5:04 pm

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MartinToVaught · Post #367 » by **MartinToVaught** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 5:10 pm

The Nuggets just got better:

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donemilio21 · Post #368 » by **donemilio21** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 5:25 pm

GMs lost their mind. New CBA has to put stop to this dealing a million picks BS.
Crowder is worth 5 picks + 2 or 3 rotation players ?
Thomas Bryant is worth 2 picks and a rotation player? What?!?!

donemilio21 · Post #369 » by **donemilio21** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 5:26 pm

with this inflation Raptors would be looking to get 3 FRPs for FVV on an expiring contract. F that. sign westbrook for free

KL2 · Post #370 » by **KL2** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 5:28 pm

Yeah. Clippers going to be holding an empty bag this trade deadline. Refuse to include Mann in any talks and don’t have the draft picks to get a foot in the door.

It is what it is.

MartinToVaught · Post #371 » by **MartinToVaught** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 5:32 pm

KL2 wrote:Yeah. Clippers going to be holding an empty bag this trade deadline. Refuse to include Mann in any talks and don’t have the draft picks to get a foot in the door.

It is what it is.

We've simply run out of moves and the team we're stuck with isn't good enough. This is what happens when you have a front office who doesn't value the draft or player development and hires a "player's coach" instead of an actual coach.

MartinToVaught · Post #372 » by **MartinToVaught** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 5:38 pm

donemilio21 wrote:GMs lost their mind. New CBA has to put stop to this dealing a million picks BS.
Crowder is worth 5 picks + 2 or 3 rotation players ?
Thomas Bryant is worth 2 picks and a rotation player? What?!?!

You can thank our horrible front office for this. After how badly we got fleeced by OKC, everyone now expects teams to trade their whole future away for their players.

KL2 · Post #373 » by **KL2** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 5:39 pm

Damn

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donemilio21 · Post #374 » by **donemilio21** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 5:40 pm

MartinToVaught wrote:
donemilio21 wrote:GMs lost their mind. New CBA has to put stop to this dealing a million picks BS.
Crowder is worth 5 picks + 2 or 3 rotation players ?
Thomas Bryant is worth 2 picks and a rotation player? What?!?!

You can thank our horrible front office for this. After how badly we got fleeced by OKC, everyone now expects teams to trade their whole future away for their players.

SGA is probably worth 5 FRPs now.

madmaxmedia · Post #375 » by **madmaxmedia** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 5:46 pm

donemilio21 wrote:
MartinToVaught wrote:
donemilio21 wrote:GMs lost their mind. New CBA has to put stop to this dealing a million picks BS.
Crowder is worth 5 picks + 2 or 3 rotation players ?
Thomas Bryant is worth 2 picks and a rotation player? What?!?!

You can thank our horrible front office for this. After how badly we got fleeced by OKC, everyone now expects teams to trade their whole future away for their players.

SGA is probably worth 5 FRPs now.

I blame Kawhi for that, more than I blame the FO. If he hadn't put a gun to our head, we might have shopped around and found a better deal for a second player. OTOH your influence is never going to be greater than while you're in free agency.

KL2 · Post #376 » by **KL2** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 5:51 pm

Leonard wanted to team up with Durant first. He chose the Nets and Irving. His second choice was Jimmy Butler. He chose Miami. PG was next and the rest is history.

Clippers keep their draft capital and SGA with Leonard on the Lakers instead. 20/20 and all that.

clipsfever · Post #377 » by **clipsfever** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 5:55 pm

Goga Bitadze worth a waiver claim?

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KL2 · Post #378 » by **KL2** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 5:55 pm

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MartinToVaught · Post #379 » by **MartinToVaught** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 6:02 pm

Maybe if we beg harder in public, someone will trade for Wall! We totally don't look desperate or anything.

madmaxmedia · Post #380 » by **madmaxmedia** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 6:03 pm

KL2 wrote:Leonard wanted to team up with Durant first. He chose the Nets and Irving. His second choice was Jimmy Butler. He chose Miami. PG was next and the rest is history.

Clippers keep their draft capital and SGA with Leonard on the Lakers instead. 20/20 and all that.

Oh yeah for sure, getting a 2nd teammate was the only way Kawhi comes here so it is what it is. It's been water under the bridge for me since Day 1...our big move sadly got kneecapped by Kawhi's ACL injury. The same thing could easily happen to the Suns, but they can't know that in advance.