Poll - Yak deal. Good or bad. Top 6 protected 2024-26

[ItsDanger]

2 of those picks are second rounders but there is no difference between the 20th pick and Koloko either.

There are so many contradictions presented on this board, its hard to keep track.

[Mack11]

Lets add a willing passer to a team of inefficient chuckers to balance out the roster.. classic realgm.

[FreshyFlames]

Trading away 1st round picks for scrubs will never be good especially when you could easily draft someone better with that pick and have a good track record doing so.

[redeye514]

Jak is a former top 10 pick who averages 12+ Pts, 9+ Brds, 3+ Asts, 2+ Stocks in 27 min a game. He plays D the way we want, can guard the perimeter, and plugs a hole we've had since Gasol / Ibaka left. Were trading a future, likely, 14-20 pick and couple seconds. its a fine deal, even though many on this board wanted something completely different.

My view was that masai was never looking to make this team worse, and wants the raps to be in the second tier of contention next year. He wants a competitive team around Scotty, so we were never going to fill out the roster with 3-5 guys under 3 years in the league.. so getting a guy who is still relatively young, albeit not rookie young, who can play for you for 4-7 years and fills a need, makes sense.

Our shooting will continue to be an achilles heal.. especially if we also trade one of FVV / GTJ... so we need to find a way to improve this. I'm sure management knows this, hence the Otto signing this off season... but were still to shallow there, clearly, as one injury (ie Otto) makes our shooting depth look atrocious.

[Childs]

I feel like this team is from 2003 trying to compete in 2023. We only have 3 shooters on the team....

[JN]

If this trade happens before the season starts I am very happy about it.

But now that we have more information about this team, about the way it is coached, about Scottie, OG happiness, FVV.... probably would not have done this -- especially with this level of protection.

[dgr81]

Top 6 protection is **** abysmal. Can’t believe some of you think this was a good trade

[baller16]

Half this board is braindead. They think every Masai trade is a W

[Jcity08]

Half this board is brainhead. They think every Masai trade is a W

And they will gaslight you to thinking you're insane for having any other opinion.

[kleatius_01]

https://www.poundingtherock.com/2021/3/26/22349444/jakob-poeltl-san-antonio-overall-impact

Nice write up on Poeltl from last year. A limited player, but he definitely has value. The move signals FO intentions, no tank for us. We desperately need more shooting on the team, and the bench is still in tatters. The more things change the more they remain the same!

[Klayforspicy]

I feel like this team is from 2003 trying to compete in 2023. We only have 3 shooters on the team....

Then you look at the Nets and 99% of their team are shooters lol

watching the Raptors really do remind me of a 2000’s constructed team the way they struggle to generate open shots, let alone make them.

[TheWave]

There has got to be more to this. I mean.

[OhCanada1091]

Poeltl is the perfect fit. He's a raptor. We know he is one of the guys that can thrive in this environment. Not many players will fit in with this group. Anytime something good happens this board is upset about it.

[ItsDanger]

This remains, a flawed roster. Needle hasn't moved. Your bench pieces don't fit either.

[KrazyP]

I think the protection on the pick should have been top 10.

If the Raps lose a player in free agency OR some unexpected injury occurs, they could easily flop again next year. If the picks ends up between 7-10, it wont look good.

That said, when evaluating the actual worth of a future draft pick, people need to understand worth is based on expected value, not best case scenario value or hindsight value. Many people dont seem to understand this.

On paper, the deal makes sense. You've added a starting C without giving anything off the roster up. Kind of like when the Celtics traded 1st for Horford, or 1st for Brogdan or 1st for White. '

My main concern is luxury tax. If the Raps pay VanVleet, Trent and Poeltl.....they'll end up a few mill over the expected tax.

I also think they need another rebalancing trade before the 3pm deadline......Boucher/Thad/Precious/Poeltl/Koloko are all PF/C. Barnes/OG/Siakam can also play PF. THey need to trade Boucher or Thad for a guard that can shoot.

[Rapsfan07]

This is pretty bad. There just simply isn't any way to justify this.

Seems like Bell/Rogers want that playoff money and MU/Bobby is trying to make that happen.

[Rapsfan07]

I think the protection on the pick should have been top 10.

If the Raps lose a player in free agency OR some unexpected injury occurs, they could easily flop again next year. If the picks ends up between 7-10, it wont look good.

That said, when evaluating the actual worth of a future draft pick, people need to understand worth is based on expected value, not best case scenario value or hindsight value. Many people dont seem to understand this.

On paper, the deal makes sense. You've added a starting C without giving anything off the roster up. Kind of like when the Celtics traded 1st for Horford, or 1st for Brogdan or 1st for White. '

My main concern is luxury tax. If the Raps pay VanVleet, Trent and Poeltl.....they'll end up a few mill over the expected tax.

I would have said lotto protected or no deal. And that's if I was nuts enough to entertain this nonsense in the first place.

Poeltl is good at what he does but this is not a prime Tyson Chandler or prime Larry Sanders we're talking about here.

He's an above average defensive C that has no game outside of the painted area, is on an expiring deal and is looking for a $20M per salary in the offseason.

The truth about it is - San Antonio needed to get rid of him much more than we needed to overpay for him.

Plus we gave a 2nd round pick in the coming draft as well. Not sure how much attention y'all pay to the draft but this one is pretty deep. An early second rounder here has late first value as far as I'm concerned.

Boston was offering 2 seconds and fillers. Lol let Boston have him. We weren't beating them in a playoff series anyway.

[biblast]

I don't like this. Light protection on the 2024 pick after our team has been incredibly meh this year. Losing a 38th-45th second rounder that could have added depth to our much needed bench.

They MUST have a silent shake hand agreement with Poeltl that he's resigning.

100% they have an agreement in place. He’s a solid C but he can’t shoot more than 5ft away from the basket and for a team that lacks shooting, that’s a weird move tbh!

[TorontoBarneys]

I don't like this. Light protection on the 2024 pick after our team has been incredibly meh this year. Losing a 38th-45th second rounder that could have added depth to our much needed bench.

They MUST have a silent shake hand agreement with Poeltl that he's resigning.

100% they have an agreement in place. He’s a solid C but he can’t shoot more than 5ft away from the basket and for a team that lacks shooting, that’s a weird move tbh!

He's basically a bench big in the playoffs. He has no post game to speak of and cannot shoot 3s obviously, and is a bad FT shooter. He's going to be quickly irrelevant in the playoffs.

This has the potential to be another extremely mediocre pick-up like the Thad trade was last year.

[Raps in 4]

It's bad.

We are not a Yak away from competing meaningfully in the playoffs.

The potential for this team to perform poorly is significant. If anyone gets injured, we're back in the lottery and the light protection on the pick means we could easily lose a lotto pick.

It also limits our flexibility to trade picks in bigger trades.