Trade Deadline Approaches

[red_power]

Reddish and Knox are perfect additions to our purgatory of the recent draft busts.

[Soulyss]

This definitely feels like a sly tank trade deadline for Portland.

About as sly as a 2x4 to the dome...

[DaVoiceMaster]

So which teams improved and which teams got worse? Off the top of my head, the teams that got better are:

Phoenix, Lakers, Clippers, Dallas, and Milwaukee. Who else?

The teams that got worse:

Portland

[Wingy]

Shaping up to be a Brutal "do nothing" deadline for the Blazers.. 13 minutes to go.

Hart for Cam + 1st (solid) but a step back.
Thybulle (exp.) for a 2nd? - Waste of an asset unless GP2 is moved.

Cronin simply looks outmatched at this point...

Or you could be a fan of my team, the Bulls. We literally did nothing. Only us, and Cleveland haven't made a trade this year. You can understand why Cleveland would sit tight and let things gel. Bulls...not so much.

[Case2012]

He wouldn't be. Man, really, Portland could not beat the Mikal offer. I get you don't understand the value of Mikal Bridges, but Portland wasn't beating that offer.

He's only got one year left on his deal and is 26. Simons has 3 and he's a better offensive player. Yes bridges is the better player but not to the degree you're making him out to be. You add Sharpe, and all the picks and I think that's on par with phoenix offer. You know Cronin never even made that call though, which is what I'm really upset about tbh.



Phil Knight would've gotten it done. Just do it is his kind of his motto...

You are worrisomely wrong. Mikal has a contract until 2026. The same year as Anfernee. He makes less money overall than Anfernee. He's player that has shown he is up there in the defensive player of the year category, has an improving self-creation game and shoots 39% from the three this year. He guards 1-4.

Again, with a contract that's cheaper than Anfernee.

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/brooklyn-nets/mikal-bridges-26976/#:~:text=Mikal%20Bridges%20signed%20a%204,dead%20cap%20value%20of%20%2421%2C000%2C000.

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/portland-trail-blazers/anfernee-simons-26990/

I wouldn't want to worry you tse! I was wrong about the contract, thanks for straightening me out. But still, I would've included Grant and any other player the blazers had for Durant without regret. You add pieces in the summer but you have your main guys in place with Dame and Durant. I maintain that we could've offered them a deal too good to refuse but probably didn't even pick up the phone, which is what I'm really upset about. Same old Portland BS.

[valleyman33]

He wouldn't be. Man, really, Portland could not beat the Mikal offer. I get you don't understand the value of Mikal Bridges, but Portland wasn't beating that offer.

He's only got one year left on his deal and is 26. Simons has 3 and he's a better offensive player. Yes bridges is the better player but not to the degree you're making him out to be. You add Sharpe, and all the picks and I think that's on par with phoenix offer. You know Cronin never even made that call though, which is what I'm really upset about tbh.

Phil Knight would've gotten it done. Just do it is his kind of his motto...

You are forgetting that Durant wanted to go to the Suns, I would not want to give up a lot of the team for a player that did not want to come here.

[The Sebastian Express]

He's only got one year left on his deal and is 26. Simons has 3 and he's a better offensive player. Yes bridges is the better player but not to the degree you're making him out to be. You add Sharpe, and all the picks and I think that's on par with phoenix offer. You know Cronin never even made that call though, which is what I'm really upset about tbh.



Phil Knight would've gotten it done. Just do it is his kind of his motto...

You are worrisomely wrong. Mikal has a contract until 2026. The same year as Anfernee. He makes less money overall than Anfernee. He's player that has shown he is up there in the defensive player of the year category, has an improving self-creation game and shoots 39% from the three this year. He guards 1-4.

Again, with a contract that's cheaper than Anfernee.

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/brooklyn-nets/mikal-bridges-26976/#:~:text=Mikal%20Bridges%20signed%20a%204,dead%20cap%20value%20of%20%2421%2C000%2C000.

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/portland-trail-blazers/anfernee-simons-26990/

I wouldn't want to worry you tse! I was wrong about the contract, thanks for straightening me out. But still, I would've included Grant and any other player the blazers had for Durant without regret. You add pieces in the summer but you have your main guys in place with Dame and Durant. I maintain that we could've offered them a deal too good to refuse but probably didn't even pick up the phone, which is what I'm really upset about. Same old Portland BS.

I understand your line of thinking, but Grant to the Nets is a non-starter for them. He's expiring. Unless we had another contender who would flip a first to the Nets for Grant in a larger KD trade, but.. what contender is going to help someone else get KD, you know?

I just don't think this deal was possible because Durant wanted to go to PHoenix and PHoenix had an amazing package they could offer. Probably the only other package that comes close is Jaylen Brown + Time Lord over in Boston and that wasn't going to happen I don't think. If Durant had wanted to come to Portland, maybe it could've gotten done.. but it is what it is. I can't get mad at it personally, I do get why you're mad. I think all we can try to do now is to capitalize on the abundance of 3&D players the Nets have come the offseason. If we hit the lottery and are in the 4-10 range, I'd bet the Blazers off that plus more for Bridges.

[Norm2953]

This definitely feels like a sly tank trade deadline for Portland.

I don't doubt many would disagree but they did get future assets from a player they were not going
to re-sign and dumped GP2 MLE deal.

If they keep the Knicks pick, gives the team two likely swings in the 2023 draft and if not, gives the
team some draft ammunition prior to the 2023 draft and a bit more room to operate for Spot Trac
says the team could conceivably have cap space if they let Thuybulle, Reddish, Grant, etc walk in
free agency.

Oftentimes, teams make these types of moves in preparation for the next moves.

[Case2012]

He wouldn't be. Man, really, Portland could not beat the Mikal offer. I get you don't understand the value of Mikal Bridges, but Portland wasn't beating that offer.

He's only got one year left on his deal and is 26. Simons has 3 and he's a better offensive player. Yes bridges is the better player but not to the degree you're making him out to be. You add Sharpe, and all the picks and I think that's on par with phoenix offer. You know Cronin never even made that call though, which is what I'm really upset about tbh.

Phil Knight would've gotten it done. Just do it is his kind of his motto...

You are forgetting that Durant wanted to go to the Suns, I would not want to give up a lot of the team for a player that did not want to come here.

Nets owner refused to send Kyrie to the Lakers because that's where he wanted to go. Why would he have a problem doing the same with Durant?

[Brandon-Clyde]

I look at things a little differently. Portland reduced salary enough that they can now sign a vet minimum big( I would suggest Whiteside), added a potential 1st and five 2nds ( or potentially 9 seconds if the first doesn't convey) and gives us a look at Cam Reddish. Should Portland receive the Knicks first one of two things are possible 1) If Portland makes the playoffs their own pick conveys to Chicago and all of Portland's future picks are available in a trade 2) If Portland fails to make the playoffs Portland could trade one of those picks which could include their own lottery pick and having 5 second round picks to add could bring in a pretty solid player. I look at this trade deadline as setting us up quite well this off-season as we will have multiple available picks, some young players who might not have huge value but are on good contracts and Anfernee Simons as a young player who will have shown himself to be a good scorer as assets to offer in trades.

[DaVoiceMaster]

Looking at the various trades, it's amazing how many second round picks were traded overall.

[Pattycakes]

Looks to me like we potentially got 10 second rounders & a couple young guys that might actually play for a useful, but not untouchable Hart and GP2 who mine as well have just been a flip for intensive purposes. I understand people don’t want to accept we’re tanking but I don’t see the error in asset management

[soobias]

i wished we would've capped it off by trading grant.

[BlazersBroncos]

I look at things a little differently. Portland reduced salary enough that they can now sign a vet minimum big( I would suggest Whiteside), added a potential 1st and five 2nds ( or potentially 9 seconds if the first doesn't convey) and gives us a look at Cam Reddish. Should Portland receive the Knicks first one of two things are possible 1) If Portland makes the playoffs their own pick conveys to Chicago and all of Portland's future picks are available in a trade 2) If Portland fails to make the playoffs Portland could trade one of those picks which could include their own lottery pick and having 5 second round picks to add could bring in a pretty solid player. I look at this trade deadline as setting us up quite well this off-season as we will have multiple available picks, some young players who might not have huge value but are on good contracts and Anfernee Simons as a young player who will have shown himself to be a good scorer as assets to offer in trades.

Short of moving Simons and Grant, which was my unrealistic hope, I agree. These moves all made sense.

The deadline was a bunch of role players and SRP's being shuffled around + the KD trade. We didnt have the ammo for a KD trade. I dont think we missed out on anything really. Move the guy you cant afford, take 2 young swings, get a FRP and 5 SRP.

Again, snagging a Josh Richardson or Malik Beasley or Mo Bamba wasnt moving this team anywhere. We went for swings at low cost and added draft picks. If you come to terms with the team being nowhere near contention it makes sense. If OG or Collins or some other high level starter was moved, ya then I would have issues. But the deadline was deck chairs being shuffled and a KD move we couldnt match. You move on and live with it.

[monopoman]

Last year when teams were delusional and thought they had a chance to poach Dame, I remember certain Denver fans talking about how they maybe would not include Bones in a trade for Dame because he might be a young Dame.

It is taking a lot of self-restraint to not go and post about that elsewhere after today.

Any team that thinks they have the next Dame is delusional, you could argue that Dame made the most of what he was given athletically then any player ever has. While he doesn't look as determined as a guy like Kobe people forget that in college no one claimed Dame would be better than a decent NBA player at best. He shattered that prediction and proved people dead wrong from his rookie season onward.

I am not claiming a team can't have a guy as good as Damian is, but most of those players were much higher regarded going into the draft like a Kevin Durant or Anthony Davis. I still remember Kobe giving Dame props after his first game of Dame's rookie season when the Lakers came to Portland. Pretty high level of regard when a legend gives a player props on day 1 of his career.

[valleyman33]

He's only got one year left on his deal and is 26. Simons has 3 and he's a better offensive player. Yes bridges is the better player but not to the degree you're making him out to be. You add Sharpe, and all the picks and I think that's on par with phoenix offer. You know Cronin never even made that call though, which is what I'm really upset about tbh.

Phil Knight would've gotten it done. Just do it is his kind of his motto...

You are forgetting that Durant wanted to go to the Suns, I would not want to give up a lot of the team for a player that did not want to come here.

Nets owner refused to send Kyrie to the Lakers because that's where he wanted to go. Why would he have a problem doing the same with Durant?

Did not mean to say that for the right deal the Nets would have traded him here, don't want Portland to give up a lot of assets for a player that does not want to be here.

[valleyman33]

Why the heck could we not have traded for Mo Bomba? Patrick Beverly for Mo Bamba, come on!!!

[The Sebastian Express]

He's only got one year left on his deal and is 26. Simons has 3 and he's a better offensive player. Yes bridges is the better player but not to the degree you're making him out to be. You add Sharpe, and all the picks and I think that's on par with phoenix offer. You know Cronin never even made that call though, which is what I'm really upset about tbh.

Phil Knight would've gotten it done. Just do it is his kind of his motto...

You are forgetting that Durant wanted to go to the Suns, I would not want to give up a lot of the team for a player that did not want to come here.

Nets owner refused to send Kyrie to the Lakers because that's where he wanted to go. Why would he have a problem doing the same with Durant?

Because one player is an anti-Semitic conspiracy theorist. The other is one of the top twenty best players ever. People would understand why you'd give the finger to Kyrie. Probably not for Durant. Also I believe Kyrie was refusing to sign a contract extension and the Lakers would not give up two first rounders for a non-extended Kyrie.

[The Sebastian Express]

Mamba being had for that cheap does make it frustrating when you consider our lack of size.

I don't mind the trades overall, they aren't bad trades. I like acquiring the draft capital and taking flyers on Reddish + Matisse, especially in a year where the West is no longer wide open with that Durant trade. I just can't overlook or forgive going into the second half of the season with an injured Nurk and Drew as our only centers.

Greg Brown the Third was waived for roster space for the trades. Not surprised, only one who really fits to get waived. He's such an infectious personality with how happy and enthusiastic he is. I wish him the best of luck. Not an NBA player right now, so I hope he gets himself into the g-league or with a young team that can play him minutes and refine him into a good three and d player. He has the athleticism and the physical tools if he can shape them.

I'll miss you, Bouncin' Brown.

[Case2012]

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