Kyrie Irving, Markieff Morris to Mavs for DFS, Spence, 2029 1st and 2027 and 2029 2nds

Mr B · Post #381 » by **Mr B** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 4:37 pm

41Dirk41 wrote:Can Kief play? He is not so old...

According to him he can. He mentioned he was glad to be traded because it will give him a chance to play more.

UglyBugBall · Post #382 » by **UglyBugBall** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 8:00 pm

Mr B wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:Can Kief play? He is not so old...

He mentioned he was glad to be traded because it will give him a chance to play more.

Damn, Kidd didn't have the heart to tell him.

Mr B · Post #383 » by **Mr B** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 9:06 pm

UglyBugBall wrote:
Mr B wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:Can Kief play? He is not so old...

He mentioned he was glad to be traded because it will give him a chance to play more.

Damn, Kidd didn't have the heart to tell him.

I think you might be surprised how much he plays.

UglyBugBall · Post #384 » by **UglyBugBall** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 9:37 pm

Mr B wrote:
UglyBugBall wrote:
Mr B wrote:He mentioned he was glad to be traded because it will give him a chance to play more.

Damn, Kidd didn't have the heart to tell him.

I think you might be surprised how much he plays.

Who is he replacing? He looks completely washed now. He would be solid if this was a couple of season ago.

Post #385 » by **HMFFL** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 9:41 pm

Mr B wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:Can Kief play? He is not so old...

According to him he can. He mentioned he was glad to be traded because it will give him a chance to play more.

Playing for a contract so let's throw some minutes at him.

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Mr B · Post #386 » by **Mr B** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 9:58 pm

HMFFL wrote:
Mr B wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:Can Kief play? He is not so old...

According to him he can. He mentioned he was glad to be traded because it will give him a chance to play more.
Playing for a contract so let's throw some minutes at him.

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Considering he’s one of the few front court players we have that actually play defense I don’t see the harm.

daoneandonly · Post #387 » by **daoneandonly** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 10:12 pm

Would be icing on the cake. But you'd have to think his last few stops of not getting playing time are for a reason

Mr B · Post #388 » by **Mr B** » Fri Feb 10, 2023 4:42 am

daoneandonly wrote:Would be icing on the cake. But you'd have to think his last few stops of not getting playing time are for a reason

Yea I’m not expecting much at all from him. If anything I hope he can just be a goon off the bench. If KD or someone like that is getting hot hopefully Morris can be a cooler. Someone the Mavs can send in the game and foul the **** out of him. Get under his skin and get him out of his rhythm.

41Dirk41 · Post #389 » by **41Dirk41** » Fri Feb 10, 2023 7:01 am

Mr B wrote:
daoneandonly wrote:Would be icing on the cake. But you'd have to think his last few stops of not getting playing time are for a reason

Yea I’m not expecting much at all from him. If anything I hope he can just be a goon off the bench. If KD or someone like that is getting hot hopefully Morris can be a cooler. Someone the Mavs can send in the game and foul the **** out of him. Get under his skin and get him out of his rhythm.

Yes some dirty plays is probably the max we can expect by him.

arkuo · Post #390 » by **arkuo** » Fri Feb 10, 2023 9:09 am

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say Dallas made out like bandits with the Kyrie trade considering other players went for 3, 4 or 5 draft picks.

Nets probably were not expecting a KD trade. Had they were, they could have taken more value for Kyrie like draft picks (which would help their rebuilding) rather than Dinwiddie and DFS who are both 30 and not really fit for a rebuilding team. Tsai could have easily asked the Mavs to include the 2027 FRP in that case but wasn't able to now that the dust has settled.

Bob8 · Post #391 » by **Bob8** » Fri Feb 10, 2023 9:42 am

arkuo wrote:I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say Dallas made out like bandits with the Kyrie trade considering other players went for 3, 4 or 5 draft picks.

Nets probably were not expecting a KD trade. Had they were, they could have taken more value for Kyrie like draft picks (which would help their rebuilding) rather than Dinwiddie and DFS who are both 30 and not really fit for a rebuilding team. Tsai could have easily asked the Mavs to include the 2027 FRP in that case but wasn't able to now that the dust has settled.

Yes, the deal was extremely good even if we consider all problems Kyrie might bring. 4 picks for Bridges and 3 for OG wasn't enough? Wtf?

41Dirk41 · Post #392 » by **41Dirk41** » Fri Feb 10, 2023 10:09 am

Bob8 wrote:
arkuo wrote:I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say Dallas made out like bandits with the Kyrie trade considering other players went for 3, 4 or 5 draft picks.

Nets probably were not expecting a KD trade. Had they were, they could have taken more value for Kyrie like draft picks (which would help their rebuilding) rather than Dinwiddie and DFS who are both 30 and not really fit for a rebuilding team. Tsai could have easily asked the Mavs to include the 2027 FRP in that case but wasn't able to now that the dust has settled.

Yes, the deal was extremely good even if we consider all problems Kyrie might bring. 4 picks for Bridges and 3 for OG wasn't enough? Wtf?

Totally agree.

Lucky was on our side this time...

41Dirk41 · Post #393 » by **41Dirk41** » Sat Feb 11, 2023 6:23 am

From 0-7 to 3-0 without Luka... Not bad

jmo21 · Post #394 » by **jmo21** » Sat Feb 11, 2023 12:50 pm

arkuo wrote:I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say Dallas made out like bandits with the Kyrie trade considering other players went for 3, 4 or 5 draft picks.

If Kyrie wasn't such a headcase, the price would have been significantly higher.

He wouldn't even have been traded, he been on a multi-year max and still in Brooklyn.

That being said, I kind of like it for Dallas. Defense will of course be a huge issue, but scoring points, and reducing Luka's load will be huge pluses.

SOUNDCHASER · Post #395 » by **SOUNDCHASER** » Sat Feb 11, 2023 5:39 pm

Our next FRP needs to be for a center and one that is big and mobile enough to defend.

Probably against Wembyana who by then will be killing teams.

arkuo · Post #396 » by **arkuo** » Sat Feb 11, 2023 7:04 pm

Mcgee seems to respond better to Kyrie than Luka.

He literally came back from the dead.

41Dirk41 · Post #397 » by **41Dirk41** » Sat Feb 11, 2023 7:43 pm

arkuo wrote:Mcgee seems to respond better to Kyrie than Luka.

He literally came back from the dead.

Agree, probably he is physically better than weeks ago.

Luka-Powell and Kyrie-McGee are the pnr better combo :wink:

arkuo · Post #398 » by **arkuo** » Sat Feb 11, 2023 8:51 pm

Jalen Rose said it best on EPSN. Kyrie - Luka is modern day Earl Monroe - Walt Frazier right there.

People were saying there was no way Monroe - Frazier could play together. We all know how that went.

Man, if these two got their version of Willis Reed, they'd be so good.

Teffer10 · Post #399 » by **Teffer10** » Sun Feb 12, 2023 12:53 am

SOUNDCHASER wrote:Our next FRP needs to be for a center and one that is big and mobile enough to defend.

Probably against Wembyana who by then will be killing teams.

Yeah, definitely need to address the center spot.
Love what McGee has provided lately, but he seems to be in that WCS/Noel mold of Mavs centers who have very little interest in basketball and only play when they want.
Also, Maxi is aging and there is no telling whether he will ever fully get back to what he was before the injury.
And Powell is Powell so yeah, we definitely need to upgrade that position asap.

Wish they could have moved Powell and THJ for a center upgrade somehow.

Teffer10 · Post #400 » by **Teffer10** » Sun Feb 12, 2023 1:00 am

Mr B wrote:
HMFFL wrote:
Mr B wrote:According to him he can. He mentioned he was glad to be traded because it will give him a chance to play more.
Playing for a contract so let's throw some minutes at him.

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Considering he’s one of the few front court players we have that actually play defense I don’t see the harm.

Morris is good insurance for a big 4/small 5 in case Maxi goes down.
He can at least guard smaller centers and all PFs and can thug it up a bit if the situation is needed.