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Post#381 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Feb 9, 2023 8:42 pm

Paradise wrote:I literally said several times since last night. This is similar to Utah. Not OKC.

We’re going to finish the season like the Post-Melo Nuggets did. They were 4th before dealing Melo to the Knicks and ended up 2nd against the Warriors in the first round.

This team is filled with high level defenders, shooters and tall playmakers with Spencer, Ben, Sumner. We are going for the postseason.


yep. We've got dogs all across the board. Marks still needs to get another center because Sharpe is not ready.
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Post#382 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Feb 9, 2023 8:44 pm

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He is and we all know it. However winning is no longer a priority for this team. Otherwise why else would you trade Kevin Durant.

This is now a tanking season since we still have our pick

Then from next season onward the goal is to win enough games to not gift the Rockets a top 5 pick in order to save face.

i don't think Sharpe is a G leaguer, i think he can become a rotational player at some point. He's a very good rebounder already and his passing acumen is very high for a center. Hasn't shown much defensively for sure but now he's on a team where can possibly get some consistent playing time (at least this season).


He's an elite offensive rebounder. So that's one skill he can definitely build on, the rest of his game we will need to wait and see.

Looks to me like the game hasn't slowed down for him yet since he's not a reliable catcher and finisher inside at all. Some guys will work it out with time some guys won't.


yeah it isn't a physical issue with Sharpe, it's the mental part. The game feels like it is too fast for him right now. His defensive awareness needs to improve a lot. Offensively i could care less, he's a rebounding demon. Just needs to know where he should be on defense a lot better.
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Post#383 » by MGrand15 » Thu Feb 9, 2023 8:45 pm

Really disappointed we didn't move Curry or pick up a back up C. The Durant trade was done last night. They had all day to make a move and all we did was shed Jae Crowder's salary. My guess is we buy Curry out.

Don't really understand what Marks was doing the last 8 hours.

It's whatever. I still like the roster. Maybe the plan is to move Ben back up C full time. We have a lot of shooters and length.

Dinwiddie / Sumner
Bridges / Cam / Seth
Johnson / Harris
DFS / Yuta
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Post#384 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Feb 9, 2023 8:45 pm

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Tha King wrote:Roster is now a solid group of good role players

Dinwiddie/Sumner
Thomas/O'Neale
Bridges/Johnson
DFS/Yuta
Claxton/Simmons

Harris, Curry, Sharpe, Mills

It's going to be interesting to see how rotations shape up


If we only get Atkinson back to sort this thing out I be way more positive , getting tired of Vaughn playing Sharpe


Vaughn has no choice but to play Sharpe though. Marks has done nothing to address center.
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Post#385 » by NetsWorld » Thu Feb 9, 2023 8:49 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
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Tha King wrote:Roster is now a solid group of good role players

Dinwiddie/Sumner
Thomas/O'Neale
Bridges/Johnson
DFS/Yuta
Claxton/Simmons

Harris, Curry, Sharpe, Mills

It's going to be interesting to see how rotations shape up


If we only get Atkinson back to sort this thing out I be way more positive , getting tired of Vaughn playing Sharpe


Vaughn has no choice but to play Sharpe though. Marks has done nothing to address center.


I said this before as well and I must repeat it, Marks is GONE this Summer. Not saying it because of his moves but he knew last Summer his time was up. All this draft capital sets up nicely to make future moves. June/July will be interesting.
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Post#386 » by njnets62892 » Thu Feb 9, 2023 8:50 pm

Maybe they'll add a vet minimum guy at center. Should be some decent options on the buyout market and it doesn't seem like they plan on tanking.
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Post#387 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Feb 9, 2023 8:50 pm

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So it official was the kyrie trade that set it off

The big news is that Tsai, Marks & KD had an agreement that if it didn't work out this year, they would get him where he wanted to be. They didn't negotiate with any other teams (Pels, Grizzlies, Celtics, etc.). They did KD a solid on the way out. I wouldn't expect him to go scorched earth like Kyrie did.



That's fair.

I'll give KD this much, he came into camp, no nonsense and played til he got hurt. Joe Tsai was willing to do right by KD and not by Kyrie. That speaks volumes.

Hopefully this will do something to restore good will around the league with the Nets. Kyrie is one thing, but KD is another.
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Post#388 » by sashaturiaf » Thu Feb 9, 2023 8:52 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
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Tha King wrote:i don't think Sharpe is a G leaguer, i think he can become a rotational player at some point. He's a very good rebounder already and his passing acumen is very high for a center. Hasn't shown much defensively for sure but now he's on a team where can possibly get some consistent playing time (at least this season).


He's an elite offensive rebounder. So that's one skill he can definitely build on, the rest of his game we will need to wait and see.

Looks to me like the game hasn't slowed down for him yet since he's not a reliable catcher and finisher inside at all. Some guys will work it out with time some guys won't.


yeah it isn't a physical issue with Sharpe, it's the mental part. The game feels like it is too fast for him right now. His defensive awareness needs to improve a lot. Offensively i could care less, he's a rebounding demon. Just needs to know where he should be on defense a lot better.


Agree. I actually like Sharpe's body better than Claxton as a 5. Clax is ridiculously quick for his size but he's just too thin framed to wrestle inside for 82 games + playoffs.

Sharpe is no freak athlete at his size but I think hes shown he's not a 0 when switching onto guards.
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Post#389 » by Tha King » Thu Feb 9, 2023 8:54 pm

MGrand15 wrote:Really disappointed we didn't move Curry or pick up a back up C. The Durant trade was done last night. They had all day to make a move and all we did was shed Jae Crowder's salary. My guess is we buy Curry out.

Don't really understand what Marks was doing the last 8 hours.

It's whatever. I still like the roster. Maybe the plan is to move Ben back up C full time. We have a lot of shooters and length.

Dinwiddie / Sumner
Bridges / Cam / Seth
Johnson / Harris
DFS / Yuta
Claxton / Ben / Sharpe

Curry will be a FA and is unplayable defensively in the playoffs. Not sure he could have been traded for anything of value without taking back longer salary and his expiring contract clears some room for next year with Cam Johnson a RFA.

For back up center, i'd rather play Sharpe there and see what he can do the rest of the year. Getting a lower/more valuable pick this year wouldn't be the worst thing either.
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Post#390 » by sashaturiaf » Thu Feb 9, 2023 8:55 pm

MGrand15 wrote:Really disappointed we didn't move Curry or pick up a back up C. The Durant trade was done last night. They had all day to make a move and all we did was shed Jae Crowder's salary. My guess is we buy Curry out.

Don't really understand what Marks was doing the last 8 hours.

It's whatever. I still like the roster. Maybe the plan is to move Ben back up C full time. We have a lot of shooters and length.

Dinwiddie / Sumner
Bridges / Cam / Seth
Johnson / Harris
DFS / Yuta
Claxton / Ben / Sharpe


Ben at the 5 has been a disaster all season since he shies away from contact, doesn't box out and offers zero rim protection. I'd rather play Sharpe than him there.

Maybe having the length of Bridges and DFS on the wings might make Ben playable at 5. Guess we'll have to wait and see
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Post#391 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Feb 9, 2023 8:58 pm

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MGrand15 wrote:Really disappointed we didn't move Curry or pick up a back up C. The Durant trade was done last night. They had all day to make a move and all we did was shed Jae Crowder's salary. My guess is we buy Curry out.

Don't really understand what Marks was doing the last 8 hours.

It's whatever. I still like the roster. Maybe the plan is to move Ben back up C full time. We have a lot of shooters and length.

Dinwiddie / Sumner
Bridges / Cam / Seth
Johnson / Harris
DFS / Yuta
Claxton / Ben / Sharpe


Ben at the 5 has been a disaster all season since he shies away from contact, doesn't box out and offers zero rim protection. I'd rather play Sharpe than him there.

Maybe having the length of Bridges and DFS on the wings might make Ben playable at 5. Guess we'll have to wait and see


we might be able to capture some of the magic we had when we had those lengthy line ups with KD/Ben/Clax + Yuta
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Post#392 » by Karate Diop » Thu Feb 9, 2023 8:59 pm

MGrand15 wrote:Really disappointed we didn't move Curry or pick up a back up C. The Durant trade was done last night. They had all day to make a move and all we did was shed Jae Crowder's salary. My guess is we buy Curry out.

Don't really understand what Marks was doing the last 8 hours.

It's whatever. I still like the roster. Maybe the plan is to move Ben back up C full time. We have a lot of shooters and length.

Dinwiddie / Sumner
Bridges / Cam / Seth
Johnson / Harris
DFS / Yuta
Claxton / Ben / Sharpe


Yeah, not moving Curry is the one I don't really get... Harris because of his deal and current play, probably didn't have value, Royce I can understand keeping because of his character and leadership, but Curry? Yeah he provides some of the intangibles like Royce but seems.cery unlikely he's back next year given his age...
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Post#393 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Feb 9, 2023 9:00 pm

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He's an elite offensive rebounder. So that's one skill he can definitely build on, the rest of his game we will need to wait and see.

Looks to me like the game hasn't slowed down for him yet since he's not a reliable catcher and finisher inside at all. Some guys will work it out with time some guys won't.


yeah it isn't a physical issue with Sharpe, it's the mental part. The game feels like it is too fast for him right now. His defensive awareness needs to improve a lot. Offensively i could care less, he's a rebounding demon. Just needs to know where he should be on defense a lot better.


Agree. I actually like Sharpe's body better than Claxton as a 5. Clax is ridiculously quick for his size but he's just too thin framed to wrestle inside for 82 games + playoffs.

Sharpe is no freak athlete at his size but I think hes shown he's not a 0 when switching onto guards.


Yeah physically, Sharpe is a beast. He just needs time. He's still only 21.
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Post#394 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Feb 9, 2023 9:01 pm

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MGrand15 wrote:Really disappointed we didn't move Curry or pick up a back up C. The Durant trade was done last night. They had all day to make a move and all we did was shed Jae Crowder's salary. My guess is we buy Curry out.

Don't really understand what Marks was doing the last 8 hours.

It's whatever. I still like the roster. Maybe the plan is to move Ben back up C full time. We have a lot of shooters and length.

Dinwiddie / Sumner
Bridges / Cam / Seth
Johnson / Harris
DFS / Yuta
Claxton / Ben / Sharpe


Yeah, not moving Curry is the one I don't really get... Harris because of his deal and current play, probably didn't have value, Royce I can understand keeping because of his character and leadership, but Curry? Yeah he provides some of the intangibles like Royce but seems.cery unlikely he's back next year given his age...


There might have been no takers for him.

I would buy him out so he can join a contender. He really isn't going to have a role now since Cam should be the starting SG.
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Post#395 » by Paradise » Thu Feb 9, 2023 9:02 pm

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MGrand15 wrote:Really disappointed we didn't move Curry or pick up a back up C. The Durant trade was done last night. They had all day to make a move and all we did was shed Jae Crowder's salary. My guess is we buy Curry out.

Don't really understand what Marks was doing the last 8 hours.

It's whatever. I still like the roster. Maybe the plan is to move Ben back up C full time. We have a lot of shooters and length.

Dinwiddie / Sumner
Bridges / Cam / Seth
Johnson / Harris
DFS / Yuta
Claxton / Ben / Sharpe


Yeah, not moving Curry is the one I don't really get... Harris because of his deal and current play, probably didn't have value, Royce I can understand keeping because of his character and leadership, but Curry? Yeah he provides some of the intangibles like Royce but seems.cery unlikely he's back next year given his age...

He’s an expiring next season. He was going to be here regardless. Royce is a Net until 2024.
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Post#396 » by sashaturiaf » Thu Feb 9, 2023 9:02 pm

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yeah it isn't a physical issue with Sharpe, it's the mental part. The game feels like it is too fast for him right now. His defensive awareness needs to improve a lot. Offensively i could care less, he's a rebounding demon. Just needs to know where he should be on defense a lot better.


Agree. I actually like Sharpe's body better than Claxton as a 5. Clax is ridiculously quick for his size but he's just too thin framed to wrestle inside for 82 games + playoffs.

Sharpe is no freak athlete at his size but I think hes shown he's not a 0 when switching onto guards.


Yeah physically, Sharpe is a beast. He just needs time. He's still only 21.


Yeah man. Sharpe doesn't know how to play yet but if he develops, the 2 headed beast of Clax and Sharpe at 5 complement each other.
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Post#397 » by Paradise » Thu Feb 9, 2023 9:04 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
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MGrand15 wrote:Really disappointed we didn't move Curry or pick up a back up C. The Durant trade was done last night. They had all day to make a move and all we did was shed Jae Crowder's salary. My guess is we buy Curry out.

Don't really understand what Marks was doing the last 8 hours.

It's whatever. I still like the roster. Maybe the plan is to move Ben back up C full time. We have a lot of shooters and length.

Dinwiddie / Sumner
Bridges / Cam / Seth
Johnson / Harris
DFS / Yuta
Claxton / Ben / Sharpe


Yeah, not moving Curry is the one I don't really get... Harris because of his deal and current play, probably didn't have value, Royce I can understand keeping because of his character and leadership, but Curry? Yeah he provides some of the intangibles like Royce but seems.cery unlikely he's back next year given his age...


There might have been no takers for him.

I would buy him out so he can join a contender. He really isn't going to have a role now since Cam should be the starting SG.

He isn’t dropping 40 a night, Seth could’ve helped us win the last two games. He’s perfect for Cam off the bench.
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Post#398 » by Tha King » Thu Feb 9, 2023 9:05 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
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MGrand15 wrote:Really disappointed we didn't move Curry or pick up a back up C. The Durant trade was done last night. They had all day to make a move and all we did was shed Jae Crowder's salary. My guess is we buy Curry out.

Don't really understand what Marks was doing the last 8 hours.

It's whatever. I still like the roster. Maybe the plan is to move Ben back up C full time. We have a lot of shooters and length.

Dinwiddie / Sumner
Bridges / Cam / Seth
Johnson / Harris
DFS / Yuta
Claxton / Ben / Sharpe


Yeah, not moving Curry is the one I don't really get... Harris because of his deal and current play, probably didn't have value, Royce I can understand keeping because of his character and leadership, but Curry? Yeah he provides some of the intangibles like Royce but seems.cery unlikely he's back next year given his age...


There might have been no takers for him.

I would buy him out so he can join a contender. He really isn't going to have a role now since Cam should be the starting SG.

agree. there's no point in playing Curry anymore, his minutes are better served going to Thomas and Sumner (who is signed on for next season).

Would also say Harris but maybe he can raise his trade value . Not sure who he's going to play over though.
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Post#399 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Feb 9, 2023 9:07 pm

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Yeah, not moving Curry is the one I don't really get... Harris because of his deal and current play, probably didn't have value, Royce I can understand keeping because of his character and leadership, but Curry? Yeah he provides some of the intangibles like Royce but seems.cery unlikely he's back next year given his age...


There might have been no takers for him.

I would buy him out so he can join a contender. He really isn't going to have a role now since Cam should be the starting SG.

He isn’t dropping 40 a night, Seth could’ve helped us win the last two games. He’s perfect for Cam off the bench.


Dinwiddie/Cam/Bridges/DFS/Claxton would be my starting 5. The backcourt defense might be weak though.

Ben/Royce/Cam II/Yuta the Shooter run second unit.

I think Ben's time is up as far as being a starter on this team. Everyone that we got in these two trades are simply better players.
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Post#400 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Feb 9, 2023 9:08 pm

Christ i forgot that Joe is still here. We've got a log jam right now.

Marks is really bad at balancing out rosters.
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