[Woj]: ATL/HOU

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[Woj]: ATL/HOU 

Post#1 » by bondom34 » Thu Feb 9, 2023 7:04 pm

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Re: [Woj]: ATL/HOU 

Post#2 » by HornetJail » Thu Feb 9, 2023 7:05 pm

Woj's time taken to type this out has to be more valuable than any of the pieces involved here
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Re: [Woj]: ATL/HOU 

Post#3 » by eminence » Thu Feb 9, 2023 7:05 pm

Uhh… why?
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Re: [Woj]: ATL/HOU 

Post#4 » by Texas Chuck » Thu Feb 9, 2023 7:05 pm

eminence wrote:Uhh… why?


the motivation behind a bunch of deals -- money
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Re: [Woj]: ATL/HOU 

Post#5 » by K_chile22 » Thu Feb 9, 2023 7:07 pm

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Post#6 » by Dr Positivity » Thu Feb 9, 2023 7:08 pm

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Re: [Woj]: ATL/HOU 

Post#7 » by K_chile22 » Thu Feb 9, 2023 7:08 pm

Besides seconds for taking on some salary this year this may have partially been taking away guys so your coach stops playing them. Bruno was playing over Garuba despite Garuba being better because Silas wants PnR offense and a dropping defense
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Post#8 » by Colbinii » Thu Feb 9, 2023 7:08 pm

eminence wrote:Uhh… why?


Bey into the TPE.

This is to stay under the Tax and save money:

In:
Fernando: $2,717,391
Bey: $2,959,080 [absorbed into TPE]
Matthews: $2,000,000

Out:
Holiday: $6,292,440
Kaminsky: $1,836,090

Lux Tax Space before trades: $1,181,201
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Post#9 » by durantbird » Thu Feb 9, 2023 7:08 pm

Isn't Kaminsky retired? LOL
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Re: [Woj]: ATL/HOU 

Post#10 » by jayjaysee » Thu Feb 9, 2023 7:09 pm

eminence wrote:Uhh… why?


Does this create the tax room for Bey which means no salary needs to go out for GS to save 50 mil?
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Post#11 » by Colbinii » Thu Feb 9, 2023 7:10 pm

jayjaysee wrote:
eminence wrote:Uhh… why?


Does this create the tax room for Bey which means no salary needs to go out for GS to save 50 mil?


Yes they will have 729K in room.
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Post#12 » by jayjaysee » Thu Feb 9, 2023 7:11 pm

Colbinii wrote:
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eminence wrote:Uhh… why?


Does this create the tax room for Bey which means no salary needs to go out for GS to save 50 mil?


Yes they will have 729K in room.


Yeah you beat me and did the math for us.
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Re: [Woj]: ATL/HOU 

Post#13 » by Dr Positivity » Thu Feb 9, 2023 7:11 pm

So did Atlanta just trade 7 2nds for Bey?
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Post#14 » by Colbinii » Thu Feb 9, 2023 7:11 pm

Dr Positivity wrote:So did Atlanta just trade 7 2nds for Bey?


Yes, no amount of 2nds are worth a 1st.
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Post#15 » by eminence » Thu Feb 9, 2023 7:12 pm

Dr Positivity wrote:So did Atlanta just trade 7 2nds for Bey?


Fernando might be worth one as well, but kinda.
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Re: [Woj]: ATL/HOU 

Post#16 » by MoneyTalks41890 » Thu Feb 9, 2023 7:59 pm

Good deal for Houston here.
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Post#17 » by giberish » Thu Feb 9, 2023 8:55 pm

I feel like Matthews can help Atlanta. He adds a good 3-point shooter to their rotation and (while it's tough to tell amongst the headless chickens in Houston) I think he's a passible defender.
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Post#18 » by K_chile22 » Thu Feb 9, 2023 9:18 pm

giberish wrote:I feel like Matthews can help Atlanta. He adds a good 3-point shooter to their rotation and (while it's tough to tell amongst the headless chickens in Houston) I think he's a passible defender.
He gives effort and draws a lot of BS offensive fouls by absolutely getting obliterated by screens (on purpose lol) but in any 1 on 1 situation he gets shaken out of his shoes easier than any wing sized player I've ever seen. He's a fine shooter off the bench but probably not an every game rotation guy
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Re: [Woj]: ATL/HOU 

Post#19 » by Threezus » Fri Feb 10, 2023 5:22 am

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giberish wrote:I feel like Matthews can help Atlanta. He adds a good 3-point shooter to their rotation and (while it's tough to tell amongst the headless chickens in Houston) I think he's a passible defender.
He gives effort and draws a lot of BS offensive fouls by absolutely getting obliterated by screens (on purpose lol) but in any 1 on 1 situation he gets shaken out of his shoes easier than any wing sized player I've ever seen. He's a fine shooter off the bench but probably not an every game rotation guy


Compared to J holiday and Frank the Tank he is a god on defense at this point atleast lol. His defensive Raptor is actually very good like a +4.0 (top 35 or so in the league) compared to Holidays -2.5 and franks -7.1 (3rd worst in the league with over 100 minutes played) Frank is down right dreadful on that end of the court. Bruno was a +1.3 so he is a +defender as well to replace Frank which is nice. I know defensive raptor isn't end all be all but it's a good solid one to keep up with.
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Re: [Woj]: ATL/HOU 

Post#20 » by K_chile22 » Fri Feb 10, 2023 5:52 am

I think a stat that has garrison Matthews as a top quarter of the NBA in defense says more about the stat than anything else. Matthews is a totally fine 9th or tenth regular season guy, but he cannot guard in space. Not trying to diminish him or whatever but if you think he will be a good defender you are setting yourself up for disappointment. He takes charges, that's where he contributes

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