2023 Trade Deadline Thread: Conley/VanVleet/Lowry/etc. (Updated thread)

[ejftw]

Honestly, Denver is the only side that scares me. I think everyone here is going to be pleasantly surprised by Bones, him and BJ are going to be a nice future tandem, if they both develop.

Plumlee adds a huge dimension as well.

I'm just a little confused on why RoCo and Morris were both kept if Plumlee was added.

[madmaxmedia]

Where does EJ play? We already have a 6th man in Powell.

Powell starts at off guard, EJ backs him up. I'm actually pretty good with that one.

are you saying powell starts at the two meaning pg is actually the new full time "1" and mann to the bench? frightful if so lol

but if you mean morris goes to the bench then i'm all for it

Oh yeah definitely the latter! My only concern was no real PF, but Morris doesn't rebound anyway.

I feel like Mann/Powell/PG/Kawhi/Plumlee is a pretty agile lineup that is less likely to look completely cooked against young teams. Zu and Plumlee have their strengths and minuses, but Plumlee seems to have quicker feet for sure. I don't care who starts, I think they can make a great tandem. Maybe Zu starts and Plumlee plays more second half minutes when we often start looking gassed.

We all think about EJ's age, but he was playing with reasonable production and efficiency on a team that literally doesn't care and/or have a clue. I think we'll end up low key really liking him. With less minutes on a better team he should get better, If he can get 13 PPG on 44% FG/35% 3FG while feeling like this in Houston:

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[nickhx2]

covington should have been extremely easy to move. he's a solid/versatile wing defender on a good deal.

morris more questionable i think as an acquisition because he just isn't that good. i've made it a habit of trashing lue for the past several weeks but there is 1% of me that thinks that lue was just waiting to see if he was moved and how lineups would shake up before really sticking him back in there for good

99% pretty sure though he thinks covington is trash and he's just a random body you throw in when morris gets hurt

[clipperlover]

Maybe we can pick up BOTH Westbrook and PatBev and Ballmer can build a new Clips Cable channel around the ensuing reality TV high drama/comedy show...

I see Westbrook being a possibility. I think he would like nothing more than to stay in L.A. and then go farther than the Lakers in the playoffs.

I see PBev having many different suitors. Him and Marcus Smart together in Boston would be something to watch. Any of the top 10 teams in the East could find a spot for him. The top 4 in the West could also make a spot for him, but he may be just what OKC needs to make the play-in. He would be standing on the scorer's table again if he helped OKC and stopped the Lakers from getting to the play-in.

[Captain Ballmer]

Why am I not feeling good with any of these moves? Help me get on board.

Plumlee is a need over Wall. Hyland is much younger version of Reggie. Lastly, Eric Gordon in limited role(Luke's role) should still provide much better offensive repertoire, playoff experience and confidence than Luke. Remember his game?

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[madmaxmedia]

covington should have been extremely easy to move. he's a solid/versatile wing defender on a good deal.

morris more questionable i think as an acquisition because he just isn't that good. i've made it a habit of trashing lue for the past several weeks but there is 1% of me that thinks that lue was just waiting to see if he was moved and how lineups would shake up before really sticking him back in there for good

99% pretty sure though he thinks covington is trash and he's just a random body you throw in when morris gets hurt

I think the biggest problem is that RoCo is just a tad undersized compared to Morris. But just MAYBE...RoCo can play more now that we've added Plumlee.

100% agree RoCo should have been very moveable, I think we didn't move him for a reason. The roster is very different now.

[madmaxmedia]

EDIT- this was apparently a fake post.

[nickhx2]

covington should have been extremely easy to move. he's a solid/versatile wing defender on a good deal.

morris more questionable i think as an acquisition because he just isn't that good. i've made it a habit of trashing lue for the past several weeks but there is 1% of me that thinks that lue was just waiting to see if he was moved and how lineups would shake up before really sticking him back in there for good

99% pretty sure though he thinks covington is trash and he's just a random body you throw in when morris gets hurt

I think the biggest problem is that RoCo is just a tad undersized compared to Morris. But just MAYBE...RoCo can play more now that we've added Plumlee.

i mean i generally agree but anyone with a brain (not named lue) can see covington's a superior defender who doesn't tire out the same way morris does, so it's kinda silly if that's lue's reasoning.

but hey, hopefully you're right and this opens up the gates for lue to be like "oh ok now that we have a legit big man there, covington can be better utilized and so let's get him on the court!"

[nickhx2]

EDIT- this was apparently a fake post.

comments say it's fake which i'm kinda inclined to believe

but for trolling purposes i would like to believe it to be true lmao

[madmaxmedia]

covington should have been extremely easy to move. he's a solid/versatile wing defender on a good deal.

morris more questionable i think as an acquisition because he just isn't that good. i've made it a habit of trashing lue for the past several weeks but there is 1% of me that thinks that lue was just waiting to see if he was moved and how lineups would shake up before really sticking him back in there for good

99% pretty sure though he thinks covington is trash and he's just a random body you throw in when morris gets hurt

I think the biggest problem is that RoCo is just a tad undersized compared to Morris. But just MAYBE...RoCo can play more now that we've added Plumlee.

i mean i generally agree but anyone with a brain (not named lue) can see covington's a superior defender who doesn't tire out the same way morris does, so it's kinda silly if that's lue's reasoning.

but hey, hopefully you're right and this opens up the gates for lue to be like "oh ok now that we have a legit big man there, covington can be better utilized and so let's get him on the court!"

Yeah I dunno either. It does make me think of the last Laker game, when RoCo was doing his thing but also giving up some easy inside baskets to Wenyen Gabriel.

[nickhx2]

I think the biggest problem is that RoCo is just a tad undersized compared to Morris. But just MAYBE...RoCo can play more now that we've added Plumlee.

i mean i generally agree but anyone with a brain (not named lue) can see covington's a superior defender who doesn't tire out the same way morris does, so it's kinda silly if that's lue's reasoning.

but hey, hopefully you're right and this opens up the gates for lue to be like "oh ok now that we have a legit big man there, covington can be better utilized and so let's get him on the court!"

Yeah I dunno either. It does make me think of the last Laker game, when RoCo was doing his thing but also giving up some easy inside baskets to Wenyen Gabriel.

absolutely

i mean all season long we've been getting thrashed by backup bigs who probably should be in the g-league. convington's no true remedy for big oafs with length in the paint.

but it's like, bro, if jock landale is taking your lunch money then you might as well counter him on offense by forcing him to defend out on the perimeter and opening up the paint for guys like kawhi/pg/powell/mann to take advantage.

whatever the case, i'm excited to have picked up a big man of plumlee's caliber to finally give the bench unit its backbone.

[nickhx2]

prob also a good idea to add that when you have some legit size in the paint that trotting out 3-guard lineups is a lot more consumable. it's one thing to have your 3 smallest guys be average to bad defenders because when they lose their guy, because neither covington nor batum are equipped to handle a constant assault in the paint.

make that center a lot bigger, though? now at least you have something to fall back on.

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[ejftw]

So we really upgraded on the seconds, nice.

[PeteyPablo]

Take aways from this season :

-Cannot let PG13 handle the point. Over dribbles and is a turnover machine. Keep him as a catch and shoot or slasher / mid ranger shooter
- Kawhi still has game. Need to keep him fresh.
-Ty Lue rides small ball for too long when team is getting crushed at the rim and inside the paint
- Do not be afraid to play Diabate and Brown 5 minutes per game.
- 4th quarter needs to be an area of focus. Protect the ball and make every possession count. Paul George chucking threes with 20 seconds on clock.


Take aways from this trade deadline :

- will kinda miss Reggie. Thank you for your dedication the past few years. But the it was time to move on.
- Plumlee is a upgrade for the Clippers
- Bones looks like he will get arrested and be a could have been , should have been. But for now , Lets see what he can provide.
- Eric Gordon , Mr.Basketball from Indiana. He can fill in scoring and some ball handling. Can catch and shoot. He probably replaces reggie more than Bones.
- Russel Westbrook could be nice or could be not nice

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[nickhx2]

as i ponder it more, i feel like it's hard to ask for more, all things considered. i know some of the beat writers didn't think much of what we did but i think we made some solid moves that will improve the overall contours of our season.

i mean i really did not want to grit my teeth and hold onto morris as i think he's addition by subtraction. but the "move" here maybe is simply to just wrap him up with other players as an actual asset going into the offseason. i think it is entirely fair to say that we, as casual fans, might hem and haw about whether we have the actual pieces or not but if management felt like their equity was capped regardless of whether batum or covington displaced him, and that we need a true 3rd star to bring it all together, then i guess it makes sense to go this route.

not that i necessarily agree with that because i think we have seen just how powerful our 5 wing lineup is our defense turned up to max. and if we had access to that while working out the team's biggest issues (a starting PF who always contributes on defense, a primary ball handler who takes the ball away from paul george and gives the ball more to kawhi, a legit backup big, ending our 3-guard lineups permanently, and functional tactics to enhance our iso plays in crunch time) then i'd have said that we have as good a shot as anyone win the championship.

anyway

now that the roster's mostly settled, the rest of our improvement is gonna have to come from the meat and potatoes of what we have. hopefully this rejuvenates the spirit of the team, which might be the biggest thing. but lue still has a lot of work to do to mitigate some of the biggest issues plaguing the team (some of them mentioned above). like, moving pieces around will only do so much if paul george is playing as ridiculously as he has been all season, as an example. let's just hope that lue gets off of this PG as the point forward train and finally sees that he's not getting any better, so throwing in good money after bad is not the way to go. and then we have to see whether they're gonna go back to the 3 guard thing or not but yeah. lot of things still need to be sorted out.

[ejftw]

Prefer this route a lot more than FVV for Mann and a first.

[clipsfever]

Believe Moses Brown is running out of games he can play for us this season on the 2-way... Goga B and Dedmon are hitting waivers, but we could also just upgrade Brown or Diabate to full deals.

Will Barton heading for a buyout (could be insurance on E Gordon's health... but so is B Boston Jr. and/or Coffey?)

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As for Mook and RoCo, if Plumdog's arrival means that Lue can't justify playing them as C's anymore... bonus!