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Re: Sixers trade deadline thread - Feb. 9th. 

Post#741 » by Negrodamus » Thu Feb 9, 2023 11:02 pm

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Re: Sixers trade deadline thread - Feb. 9th. 

Post#742 » by mjkvol » Thu Feb 9, 2023 11:02 pm

Foshan wrote:Sorry just waking up… we ducked the tax then? Even if we add a buy out guy?


We ducked the tax, all is well. Go back to sleep.
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Post#743 » by FireMorey » Thu Feb 9, 2023 11:05 pm

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FireMorey wrote:You're going to get Harrell in the playoffs, and you're going to like it.

(And Doc Rivers will get blamed for it, even though this is the 2nd straight year the GM enabled this by giving him washed up veterans to keep playing. He didn't have to sign Harrell or Jordan. He chose to.)


Morey's mistake was keeping Rivers last off season and then doubling down by giving him the players he wanted. Are you seriously suggesting that Rivers didn't have major input into the Jordan and Harrell signings?


Morey's his boss. Rivers is only allowed say if Morey lets him have it. He could have easily told him no, just like any boss relationship with someone who works under them.
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Post#744 » by mjkvol » Thu Feb 9, 2023 11:09 pm

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FireMorey wrote:You're going to get Harrell in the playoffs, and you're going to like it.

(And Doc Rivers will get blamed for it, even though this is the 2nd straight year the GM enabled this by giving him washed up veterans to keep playing. He didn't have to sign Harrell or Jordan. He chose to.)


Morey's mistake was keeping Rivers last off season and then doubling down by giving him the players he wanted. Are you seriously suggesting that Rivers didn't have major input into the Jordan and Harrell signings?


Morey's his boss. Rivers is only allowed say if Morey lets him have it. He could have easily told him no, just like any boss relationship with someone who works under them.


Not if the owners made it clear that Rivers remains as coach. At that point, any GM worth a damn is working with the coach, getting him players that he can work with. Hopefully he is giving Glenn just enough rope to hang himself.
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Re: Sixers trade deadline thread - Feb. 9th. 

Post#745 » by Skates » Thu Feb 9, 2023 11:09 pm

Rivers being let go last year given the money he would be owed and cost of a new coach has been strongly implied to be a non-starter with ownership. A first or second round exit this year and one less years to guarantee into the future might be enough to allow a change, but even that is questionable unless Embiid and/or Harden demand it.
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Re: Sixers trade deadline thread - Feb. 9th. 

Post#746 » by FireMorey » Thu Feb 9, 2023 11:21 pm

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mjkvol wrote:
Morey's mistake was keeping Rivers last off season and then doubling down by giving him the players he wanted. Are you seriously suggesting that Rivers didn't have major input into the Jordan and Harrell signings?


Morey's his boss. Rivers is only allowed say if Morey lets him have it. He could have easily told him no, just like any boss relationship with someone who works under them.


Not if the owners made it clear that Rivers remains as coach. At that point, any GM worth a damn is working with the coach, getting him players that he can work with. Hopefully he is giving Glenn just enough rope to hang himself.


But if these moves are objectively hurting the team then he's not doing his job. At the end of the day, his job is to construct the best team possible. A lot of coaches have affinities for a lot of players, the GM has to prevent a coach from doing what's against his own best interest.
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Re: Sixers trade deadline thread - Feb. 9th. 

Post#747 » by TheBallsDeeper » Thu Feb 9, 2023 11:37 pm

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Kobblehead wrote:I think we have to stick it out with Maxey. If you take any lesson from the Celtics, it should be to keep your drafted and developed homegrown players that exceed expectations.

He and Embiid are two of the very few things this franchise has done correctly in the last 10 or so years.

It you take anything from the Celtics you trade an undersized one dimensional player while value is high. Celtics is possibly the worst comparison here - you've just make an argument to ship Maxey ASAP.

And then you just keep churning through mercenary types and reset chemistry every year. You will never win with that approach. You keep Maxey and Embiid and you try to keep figuring it out.

That's exactly what you do! It's worked for Miami, Lakers, Golden State, Bucks - just about every team that has won a championship has traded away players that fans love to build a winning team.

Honestly, you could not be making a better case to trade him. Do you want to change sides or are you going to keep doubling down because you are in too deep?
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Post#748 » by ProcessDoctor » Thu Feb 9, 2023 11:56 pm

Has it been confirmed that we’re getting two 2nds in the McDaniels trade?
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Re: Sixers trade deadline thread - Feb. 9th. 

Post#749 » by Bum Adebayo » Thu Feb 9, 2023 11:56 pm

Homegrown players are nice and dandy when they are actually good enough, Maxey is not that, especially when the time to pay him comes, expect the worst about the money we will need to pay him for such a mediocre player in the big picture. Actually he is the prototype of player that gets franchises in huge trouble, the kind of player that is young and "good enough" to be attractive to some teams in terms of potential, so team is forced to pay him big money.
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Post#750 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Thu Feb 9, 2023 11:57 pm

I don't know all the financial stuff...MY question is can we still add a buyout player if we get the opportunity? Terrence Ross, Reggie Jackson, Pat Bev, Will Barton I'm sure there will be some other names out there as well.
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Post#751 » by ProcessDoctor » Thu Feb 9, 2023 11:57 pm

Bum Adebayo wrote:Homegrown players are nice and dandy when they are actually good enough, Maxey is not that, especially when the time to pay him comes, expect the worst about the money we will need to pay him for such a mediocre player in the big picture.


He’s gonna get Tyler Herro money and I can’t even begin to stomach that.
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Re: Sixers trade deadline thread - Feb. 9th. 

Post#752 » by Stanford » Thu Feb 9, 2023 11:57 pm

ProcessDoctor wrote:Has it been confirmed that we’re getting two 2nds in the McDaniels trade?


Neubeck seems to think that's the return.

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Post#753 » by Bum Adebayo » Fri Feb 10, 2023 12:01 am

Well TBH with two 2nd it's not that bad of a trade, in the end McDaniels will just be slightly worse than Thybulle, and those 2nds will be trade ammunition in the next years I guess. But Thybulle was worthless anyway, both players are unplayable so better get those two 2nds.
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Re: Sixers trade deadline thread - Feb. 9th. 

Post#754 » by ProcessDoctor » Fri Feb 10, 2023 12:08 am

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ProcessDoctor wrote:Has it been confirmed that we’re getting two 2nds in the McDaniels trade?


Neubeck seems to think that's the return.

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Nice. Just wanna make sure we’re loading up to trade 5 2nds for a marginal role player at next years deadline.
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Post#755 » by HotelVitale » Fri Feb 10, 2023 12:18 am

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HotelVitale wrote:Didn’t expect so much negativity about McDaniels, he’s big and athletic and shoots and finishes much better than Matisse. I loved Mouse-Man’s ball-hawking and steal-hunting as much as anyone but he wasn’t happening for us and was gone soon anyway, so I thought the trade was at least a solid move and maybe much better.




The Thybulle version is just hours of other teams leaving him alone. And bricking layups that he’s terrified to take.
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Post#756 » by Ferry Avenue » Fri Feb 10, 2023 12:24 am

So at the trade deadline the Sixers went out and traded their best wing defender for a guy who's essentially Paul Reed reincarnate.

Prepare for the 2nd-round exit once again.
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Post#757 » by HotelVitale » Fri Feb 10, 2023 12:27 am

FireMorey wrote:My dislike for Morey aside I actually don't think the Sixers chances are zero. If Embiid stays healthy, which is a big if, they always have a chance.

And frankly, if people think this is a wasted season, why would anyone even watch the games? Seems like a big waste of time to me.

Yeah, I’ve seen enough to not have a ton of faith and not expect much this PO but the people who are saying zero chance often sound to me kids scared to be hurt again. The good version of the team can do something, especially if we get a little lucky here and there. Doubt it’ll happen but I’m watching on the (realistic) hope.
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Post#758 » by LloydFree » Fri Feb 10, 2023 12:30 am

Ferry Avenue wrote:So at the trade deadline the Sixers went out and traded their best wing defender for a guy who's essentially Paul Reed reincarnate.

Prepare for the 2nd-round exit once again.

He's nothing like Paul Reed.
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Post#759 » by HotelVitale » Fri Feb 10, 2023 12:30 am

Ferry Avenue wrote:So at the trade deadline the Sixers went out and traded their best wing defender for a guy who's essentially Paul Reed reincarnate.

Prepare for the 2nd-round exit once again.


If we’re playing that game, no, they traded a guy who’s out of their rotation, can’t play in the PO, and is averaging 2 points per game—and who they weren’t going to re-up after the season—for 2 2nd rounders and a big athlete who shoots and finished much better than Thybulle and has a chance to be an X factor in some PO series.
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Re: Sixers trade deadline thread - Feb. 9th. 

Post#760 » by Stanford » Fri Feb 10, 2023 12:39 am

Ferry Avenue wrote:best wing defender


Low bar. Thybulle sucks.

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