Biggest winners/losers of 2023 trade deadline?

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Re: Biggest winners/losers of 2023 trade deadline? 

Post#121 » by mediocrityrules » Thu Feb 9, 2023 11:33 pm

Biggest loser is Scottie Pippen Jr, who now has to play with Malik Beasley.

Although it's now the first father son duo to play together in the NBA!
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Re: Biggest winners/losers of 2023 trade deadline? 

Post#122 » by Dr Aki » Thu Feb 9, 2023 11:42 pm

hoosierdaddy34 wrote:Winner: Lakers got bigger, better, added shooting and rebounding and saved 18 million in taxes. All for just a 1st rounder and a bunch of players everyone said sucked.

Huge day for Pelinka.


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Tax bill went from 45 to 17 mil
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Re: Biggest winners/losers of 2023 trade deadline? 

Post#123 » by Dr Aki » Thu Feb 9, 2023 11:44 pm

MadNESS wrote:Winners:
Suns - if they can flush out their roster. Bazley is sneaky nice


You mean flesh out?

Flush out would apply to the Lakers and their glut of guards and unplayable Damian Jones and JTA though
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Re: Biggest winners/losers of 2023 trade deadline? 

Post#124 » by Dr Aki » Thu Feb 9, 2023 11:48 pm

KGtabake wrote:
THE J0KER wrote:WINNERS: WEST
LOSERS: EAST

Just when conferences finally become equal for the first time in a while, Durant and Irving make star-power disbalance once again with also two LA teams also both very improve for playoff efforts by several small moves, unlike any EC contenders apart from the Bucks.



On behalf of the eastern conference:
Kyrie is your problem now. **** his star power.
Dinwiddie any day, all day. I knew that since '19 but Brooklyn fans weren't hearing it back then.


I don't share your optimism for the Lakers.

If these new guys don't hit their threes, it's the same problem, but worse, because they're still not good defenders

Lakers at least built up a decent, more youthful base for next season though
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Re: Biggest winners/losers of 2023 trade deadline? 

Post#125 » by Duffman100 » Thu Feb 9, 2023 11:51 pm

Harry Garris wrote:The Raptors willingly signing up to be an unimpactful treadmill team with almost no young players or decent picks to continue to build around moving forward is just baffling. I'm a Blazers fan so I can speak from experience this is definitely not where you want to be as a franchise.

Maybe the offers for OG Anunoby out there weren't as hot as we were lead to believe, but also not trading Fred Vanvleet who's just going to walk for nothing in the offseason was a real head-scratcher.


I don’t love that we stood pat. But almost no young players and picks ?

Barnes, Precious, Trent, Koloko, OG are all 25 and under. We traded one 1st rounder.

Bit of an exaggeration.
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Re: Biggest winners/losers of 2023 trade deadline? 

Post#126 » by MarcusBrody » Thu Feb 9, 2023 11:52 pm

I agree with pretty much everyone.

In some ways I think the Nuggets are the hardest to rate. i think they got better (even if they would have gotten much better value for Bones trading him earlier), but they went from having a pretty clear path to the Finals (obviously a lot could happen but they seemed to be separating themselves) to looking like they might have to go through a bloodbath in the West. I'd say overall, they're in the losers column as I have lower expectations than I did for them last night, even if they didn't make any terrible moves.
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Re: Biggest winners/losers of 2023 trade deadline? 

Post#127 » by dc » Fri Feb 10, 2023 12:01 am

Marvin Martian wrote:Biggest loser is John Wall. He went on a podcast trash talking the Rockets and the Clips traded him back there lol


Yeah, this reminds me of Tim Hardaway towards the end of his career signing with the Mavs to contend and then getting traded to a rebuilding Nuggets at the deadline, LOL.
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Re: Biggest winners/losers of 2023 trade deadline? 

Post#128 » by Invictus88 » Fri Feb 10, 2023 12:01 am

mediocrityrules wrote:Biggest loser is Scottie Pippen Jr, who now has to play with Malik Beasley.

Although it's now the first father son duo to play together in the NBA!


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Re: Biggest winners/losers of 2023 trade deadline? 

Post#129 » by Walmart » Fri Feb 10, 2023 12:13 am

Winners: Lakers, Clippers

I am on the fence about the Suns as both Paul and Durant have to stay healthy for them to have a chance at even one ring as Durant is already 34.
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Re: Biggest winners/losers of 2023 trade deadline? 

Post#130 » by DonaldSanders » Fri Feb 10, 2023 12:20 am

tarantism wrote:Suns are the clear winners, for obvious reasons.

Warriors are losers to me. Sure GP2 is an upgrade to Wiseman but he makes too much money. Not to mention that GSW did nothing to catch the teams above them and a few teams passed them. These guys are done.




I'm surprised you're saying this (and the other folks listing the Warriors as deadline losers). GPII instantly makes us better over Wiseman, and we may still get someone in the buyout market.

Maybe I'm a GPII homer, but if we had a healthy GPII the whole season I think you might view the team differently. We lost some really close games and easily could be 32-23 as the #3 seed or 30-25 as the #4 seed if we had his defense/spark.

I know other teams have upgraded, but there's no guarantee they gel with 1/3 of the season left. I don't view us as favorites or anything, but this was the move that at gives us a chance now. Steph, Klay, Poole are all capable of getting hot and I think we are capable of beating any team now.
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Re: Biggest winners/losers of 2023 trade deadline? 

Post#131 » by formula 400 » Fri Feb 10, 2023 12:33 am

Invictus88 wrote:
mediocrityrules wrote:Biggest loser is Scottie Pippen Jr, who now has to play with Malik Beasley.

Although it's now the first father son duo to play together in the NBA!


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Re: Biggest winners/losers of 2023 trade deadline? 

Post#132 » by formula 400 » Fri Feb 10, 2023 12:34 am

dc wrote:
Marvin Martian wrote:Biggest loser is John Wall. He went on a podcast trash talking the Rockets and the Clips traded him back there lol


Yeah, this reminds me of Tim Hardaway towards the end of his career signing with the Mavs to contend and then getting traded to a rebuilding Nuggets at the deadline, LOL.



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Re: Biggest winners/losers of 2023 trade deadline? 

Post#133 » by formula 400 » Fri Feb 10, 2023 12:36 am

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tarantism wrote:Suns are the clear winners, for obvious reasons.

Warriors are losers to me. Sure GP2 is an upgrade to Wiseman but he makes too much money. Not to mention that GSW did nothing to catch the teams above them and a few teams passed them. These guys are done.




I'm surprised you're saying this (and the other folks listing the Warriors as deadline losers). GPII instantly makes us better over Wiseman, and we may still get someone in the buyout market.

Maybe I'm a GPII homer, but if we had a healthy GPII the whole season I think you might view the team differently. We lost some really close games and easily could be 32-23 as the #3 seed or 30-25 as the #4 seed if we had his defense/spark.

I know other teams have upgraded, but there's no guarantee they gel with 1/3 of the season left. I don't view us as favorites or anything, but this was the move that at gives us a chance now. Steph, Klay, Poole are all capable of getting hot and I think we are capable of beating any team now.



warriors are definite losers. it's not about getting gp. its the fact that warrior faithful said wiseman is the future and never was. alltime bust right there plus having meh trade makes them big losers.
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Re: Biggest winners/losers of 2023 trade deadline? 

Post#134 » by HMFFL » Fri Feb 10, 2023 12:51 am

Liam_Gallagher wrote:I thought Utah was a loser. They traded Conley, a 2nd, Beasley, and Vanderbilt and only got one first back along with Westbrook. Detroit also kind of lost by not trading Bojan for anything.
I predict Bojan will be signed and traded to Portland this off-season. Teaming up with Jusuf Nurkić




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Re: Biggest winners/losers of 2023 trade deadline? 

Post#135 » by DonaldSanders » Fri Feb 10, 2023 12:52 am

formula 400 wrote:
DonaldSanders wrote:
tarantism wrote:Suns are the clear winners, for obvious reasons.

Warriors are losers to me. Sure GP2 is an upgrade to Wiseman but he makes too much money. Not to mention that GSW did nothing to catch the teams above them and a few teams passed them. These guys are done.




I'm surprised you're saying this (and the other folks listing the Warriors as deadline losers). GPII instantly makes us better over Wiseman, and we may still get someone in the buyout market.

Maybe I'm a GPII homer, but if we had a healthy GPII the whole season I think you might view the team differently. We lost some really close games and easily could be 32-23 as the #3 seed or 30-25 as the #4 seed if we had his defense/spark.

I know other teams have upgraded, but there's no guarantee they gel with 1/3 of the season left. I don't view us as favorites or anything, but this was the move that at gives us a chance now. Steph, Klay, Poole are all capable of getting hot and I think we are capable of beating any team now.



warriors are definite losers. it's not about getting gp. its the fact that warrior faithful said wiseman is the future and never was. alltime bust right there plus having meh trade makes them big losers.


Wiseman was a clear bust way before the deadline, so odd to me to score that now just because we finally got rid of him. Nobody was calling him the future for awhile now, my hope before the season was that he could be the backup center.
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Re: Biggest winners/losers of 2023 trade deadline? 

Post#136 » by HMFFL » Fri Feb 10, 2023 12:54 am

JJ_PR wrote:I have the Nets as the clear winners. I thought they did extremely well in the Kyrie trade. The KD trade was amazing for them as well. Cam Johnson, Mikal Bridges, four unprotected firsts & an unprotected swap? That's an insane haul.
Indeed. Kevin Durant already made it clear he has commit issues once he requested to be traded the first time. This time, it was evident, but the West shifted with the trade, and the Clippers acted.

So, like you, I believe Brooklyn did a great job. This off-season will be note exciting now.

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Re: Biggest winners/losers of 2023 trade deadline? 

Post#137 » by dhsilv2 » Fri Feb 10, 2023 3:23 am

Harry Garris wrote:
dhsilv2 wrote:
Harry Garris wrote:The Raptors willingly signing up to be an unimpactful treadmill team with almost no young players or decent picks to continue to build around moving forward is just baffling. I'm a Blazers fan so I can speak from experience this is definitely not where you want to be as a franchise.

Maybe the offers for OG Anunoby out there weren't as hot as we were lead to believe, but also not trading Fred Vanvleet who's just going to walk for nothing in the offseason was a real head-scratcher.


How could they trade either after upgrading at center and offering a 2024 first? They have to be playing to make the playoffs this and next year given that...


Upgrading at center? I mean yeah they kinda did that but also center is by far their deepest position on the roster and by getting Poeltl they're effectively cutting Achiuwa out of the rotation, who had been playing well lately. They have no depth at guard and did nothing to address it.

Not sure how this is a team that's making it out of the play-in tournament, and even if they do, should be a quick first round series regardless of who they face.


I strongly believe they added the big body defender that will help them. But none the less, you don't tear down your team when you've just given up your 2024 pick. Ignore the basketball analysis, and look at their actions. Their actions say they want to win for some reason.
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Re: Biggest winners/losers of 2023 trade deadline? 

Post#138 » by markjay » Fri Feb 10, 2023 3:42 am

Ito wrote:Lakers lost.. they got worse unless they expectin Bron to drop 30+ every game

Westbrook —> D'lo
Beverley —> Beasley
Nunn —> Reed
JTA —> Hachimura
Jones —> Vanderbilt
Bryant—> Bamba
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Re: Biggest winners/losers of 2023 trade deadline? 

Post#139 » by DutchManDanFan » Fri Feb 10, 2023 4:01 am

Winners: Suns, KD
Losers: all teams who thought could win the West.
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Re: Biggest winners/losers of 2023 trade deadline? 

Post#140 » by One Last Shot » Fri Feb 10, 2023 4:04 am

markjay wrote:
Ito wrote:Lakers lost.. they got worse unless they expectin Bron to drop 30+ every game

Westbrook —> D'lo
Beverley —> Beasley
Nunn —> Reed
JTA —> Hachimura
Jones —> Vanderbilt
Bryant—> Bamba


plus they save $28M+ in luxury tax and the opportunity to trade the salary of Bamba/Beasley/Vanderbilt/Rui incase Kyrie/Mavs decided to work on sign-and-trade in the off-season. If not, this team is way better than before they started this season. It's just that I think it's too late that they can't even make the 10th seed to qualify for play-in elimination. Either way, this should be a decent team moving forward.

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